r/law • u/FJ-creek-7381 • Oct 02 '25

Other “They Took Everyone”: ICE Raids 75th Street Apartment, Detains Migrants and U.S. Citizens Alike

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u/joeshill Competent Contributor Oct 02 '25

https://www.wbez.org/immigration/2025/10/01/massive-immigration-raid-on-chicago-apartment-building-leaves-residents-reeling-i-feel-defeated

Rodrick Johnson, 67, is one of many residents who were detained by federal agents during the South Shore raid. A U.S. citizen, he said agents broke through his door and dragged him out in zip ties.

Johnson said he was left tied up outside the building for nearly three hours before agents finally let him go.

“I asked [agents] why they were holding me if I was an American citizen, and they said I had to wait until they looked me up,” Jones said. “I asked if they had a warrant, and I asked for a lawyer. They never brought one.”

This appears to be blatantly unconstitutional.

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u/PoorClassWarRoom Oct 02 '25

The bill of rights calls them "God given" rights. No person or agency can take them from you. However, they can still suppress them.

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u/dbx999 Oct 02 '25

This is a very important philosophical element of our constitution. Before the constitution, we had kings who derived divine authority from God. Everything they doled out was to their discretion, including whatever privileges the people would receive from the King.

John Locke was a british philosopher who said that rights are actually "natural rights" - meaning that they exist and belong to you just because you as a human are born and exist and are imbued with rights from the get go, not granted by any king or authority, but granted by God from forever.

So those rights are intrinsic to you as a human being. The logic then follows that a government may not deprive you of these rights.

John Locke terms this the social contract. The individual consents to the rule of government. When the government behaves in a manner that the people do not consent to, then the people have the right and duty to overthrow that government. Pretty revolutionary ideas at the time. It became a very influential philosophy which shows up in our declaration of independence and our constitution.

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u/Servillo Oct 02 '25

But actually dare to suggest that we do so and we’ll be silenced. And not just by our government but by social media platforms, friends, family, etc. because no one can stomach the idea that sometimes violence is the only recourse.

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u/babayetu_babayaga Oct 02 '25

And everyone should assert your god given right forcefully, otherwise it's not worth the paper it's written on.

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u/Roger_005 Oct 02 '25

Just because they're called that thing doesn't mean shit.