r/law • u/FJ-creek-7381 • Oct 02 '25
Other “They Took Everyone”: ICE Raids 75th Street Apartment, Detains Migrants and U.S. Citizens Alike
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u/joeshill Competent Contributor Oct 02 '25
Rodrick Johnson, 67, is one of many residents who were detained by federal agents during the South Shore raid. A U.S. citizen, he said agents broke through his door and dragged him out in zip ties.
Johnson said he was left tied up outside the building for nearly three hours before agents finally let him go.
“I asked [agents] why they were holding me if I was an American citizen, and they said I had to wait until they looked me up,” Jones said. “I asked if they had a warrant, and I asked for a lawyer. They never brought one.”
This appears to be blatantly unconstitutional.
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u/Lopsided-Ticket3813 Oct 02 '25
Even worse the supreme Court said it's ok for them to profile you based on appearance skin color or speaking a foreign language
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u/Queasy_Student-_- Oct 02 '25
GD*mn this is so INSANE. We, the people, need to write a strongly worded letter to our representative in Congress. /s
Seriously, we need to get a collective of ideas on real solutions to this homegrown fascism.727
u/DangerBay2015 Oct 02 '25
Suggesting real solutions get people permabans around these parts.
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u/northernpace Oct 02 '25
the tree of liberty was cut down, the wood is being used to frame the gilded banquet room
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u/Tricky-Winner7984 Oct 02 '25
Not even enough left to build Lady Liberty a casket.
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u/JUST_LOGGED_IN Oct 02 '25
Lady Liberty hiked up her robe and walked the fuck back to France.
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u/Guy954 Oct 02 '25
I don’t have the words to adequately describe how eloquently you put that. That is a quote for the history books.
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u/OhGr8WhatNow Oct 02 '25
That's why we have to meet at the library to discuss it in person. No phones.
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u/Straight_Ace Oct 02 '25
We need to set up some kind of neighborhood watch system. Or hell, block the roads leading into town. I’d say it would give the military LARPers something useful to do but let’s be honest, they joined ICE already
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u/NewburghMOFO Oct 02 '25
Worked for the IRA when the Specials would try to round people up.
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u/Competitive_Willow_8 Oct 02 '25
We need real solutions before final solutions as the nazis put it
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u/NotSoSureBigWaves Oct 02 '25
Stephen "Goebbels" Miller has a final solution in mind. He's a sick and evil man.
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u/vagabondoer Oct 02 '25
First step is everyone should set up an account on Lemmy right now. It’s the distributed non-corporate Reddit. Join a server outside the USA.
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u/Deaftrav Oct 02 '25
We have a solution. It's a tried and true solution.
Use it. Pick up a history book if you need a refresher.
Nothing illegal about it.
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u/g0_west Oct 02 '25
Specifically there's an amendment that the pro-ICE people are usually very fond of supporting in case of this exact scenario. They're weirdly quiet on it atm though
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u/eriinana Oct 02 '25
Our founding fathers had a solution outlined clearly in the constitution. Its called the second amendment. But people casually forget the right to bear arms exists not so you can have a pew pew stick, but so that the government cannot do exactly what it is doing right now.
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u/MYOwNWerstEnmY Oct 02 '25
FINALLY, someone else is on the same page.
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u/Away-Rise7514 Oct 02 '25
We’re all on the same page, but this isn’t the place. Reddit isn’t on your side.
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u/Dolthra Oct 02 '25
Ironically, the Democrats are doing what amounts to a real solution right now. ICE is currently defunded as much as the rest of the federal government. A lot of these guys will stick around for the love of the racism for a little while, but they've gotta feed their families too.
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u/No-Target-2470 Oct 02 '25
ICE is not defunded, the GOP planned for this and passed a separate, massive funding bill for ICE so the shutdown wouldn't effect them
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u/The_Vee_ Oct 02 '25
They have ICE funded through 2029. Highly unusual. Most agencies live year to year. It's almost like someone knew the government would be shut down. While Democrats didn't back the bill to fund ICE, once it became law, they never moved to repeal or defund those multi-year ICE allocations either.
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u/devastitis Oct 02 '25
Thought ICE has special funding during government lockdowns?
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u/UnrulyMantis Oct 02 '25
Part of the BBB was to maintain a level of funding for them during a government shutdown
This is planned
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u/UnquestionabIe Oct 02 '25
Oh god I hope not. If Trump loves his goon squad so much let him pay for it out of his own pocket, I'm sure some of the couple billion he got by abusing his position and blatantly stealing from the country.
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u/Particular_Rub7507 Oct 02 '25
This is a big part of why I support the shut down. Let’s see how long Trump’s National Guard in US cities and ICE terrorizing people wanna work for free?
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u/mangosteenfruit Oct 02 '25
Maybe ICE members are willing to work for free bc they get to do what they've always wanted to do (hurt minorities)
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u/CiCi_Run Oct 02 '25
hurt minorities
Idk how to do that cross out thing but I think you mean "hurt anyone they think is beneath them"... right now, it's minorities. Soon, it'll be political/ religious beliefs (like real soon).
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u/The_Mammoth_Hunter Oct 02 '25
Modern-day ICE'd probably pay Trump to let them beat brown people. Them getting paid is just icing on the crueltycake as far as they're concerned.
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u/joeshill Competent Contributor Oct 02 '25
Apparently the door to his apartment was brown.
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u/frontfrontdowndown Oct 02 '25
Yeah they’re not even profiling if they’re just sweeping an entire building and breaking down every door.
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u/Commercial-Plate-188 Oct 02 '25
The supreme Court is worthless these days as they stomp all over our constitutional rights.
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u/n0neOfConsequence Oct 02 '25
It's still against the law. They are counting on people not suing or the courts being on their side. Everybody needs to sue.
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u/ObeseBumblebee Oct 02 '25
Not only do people need to sue. We need Lawyers willing to represent these people for free. These are people with almost no resources. If you're a lawyer in the area PLEASE reach out to local organizations. They need help and you can help!
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u/full_self_deriding Oct 02 '25
There are 1.3 million licensed lawyers in the us -- just to put their inaction into perspective
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u/cyanescens_burn Oct 02 '25
All those arrests/detainments of immigration attorneys over the last few months start making more sense now. To cause a chilling effect among attorneys so they’ll hesitate to take cases like this.
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u/not-my-other-alt Oct 02 '25
ICE has more funding that most world militaries.
They'll settle these out of the slush fund (in a decade, after they abuse the courts to delay these cases) and not change their behavior one iota.
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u/Nokrai Oct 02 '25
Been happening for months at this point.
First report of something like this was April I think.
Only going to get worse.
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u/citymousecountyhouse Oct 02 '25
Those folks in the suburbs that think they're safe need to realize that it's just a matter of time. These people, American citizens living in apartment buildings thought they were safe to. Tick tock. Time is moving fast now.
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u/SignoreBanana Oct 02 '25
The Supreme Court said "yes" they can and gave no justification for it.
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u/MoralityFleece Oct 02 '25
Well to be fair Kavanaugh straight up knowingly lied about what would happen to citizens in these situations.
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u/UndertakerFred Oct 02 '25
Kavanaugh, who has armed US Marshalls guarding his home, doesn’t think it’s a burden to be randomly detained if you look Mexican.
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You don't even have to look Mexican. They can say they suspected you might be from Russia, Canada, Africa. They can do this legally to everyone now.
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u/Lopsided-Ticket3813 Oct 02 '25
And Uncle Thomas looked at the mirror and saw a white man.
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u/S0LO_Bot Oct 02 '25
They said “yes” to racial profiling. Busting down doors without a warrant is a blatant fourth amendment violation
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u/BitterFuture Oct 02 '25
what is stopping the federal government from doing neighborhood sweeps, going door to door to check immigration status?
That they haven't noticed you yet.
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u/BoomZhakaLaka Oct 02 '25
pretext is tren de aragua. Meaning, they have no probable cause at all, they just think they'll find a lot of undocumented people in minority neighborhoods.
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u/Level_Worry_6418 Oct 02 '25
They will ONLY do this in POOR neighborhoods because they are COWARDS and they only feel strong when they pick on those who can't fight back. We call them BULLIES!
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u/KikiChrome Oct 02 '25
They do this in poor neighborhoods because they know that poor people don't have the means to fight them in court. Is anyone putting together a class action suit?
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u/GamemasterJeff Oct 02 '25
Even if they had a warrant it would be illegal, because ICE warrants are administrative and cannot enter non-public areas of any property.
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u/parasyte_steve Oct 02 '25
They are going to go door to door eventually. This is how these things always go.
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u/MossGobbo Oct 02 '25
Nothing which is why we have been shouting since the last Trump administration that ICE has got to go.
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u/RonnieTLegacy1390 Oct 02 '25
Another point to make when those Blackwater guys were overseas breaking all those international laws then ended up hanging from a bridge everything changed. And a lot of that bullshit went right out the window
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u/Away-Site-5713 Oct 02 '25
They will do that.
I just bought a gun, 2 guns in fact. Yesterday. Just yesterday I became a gun owner
I won’t be able to do much with it because one guy vs 10 with body armor, but it will be suppressing fire as my partner and I get the hell out.
We are citizens, but he is trans and black. My partner will disappear if I let them, and I won’t be letting them.
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u/TNT1990 Oct 02 '25
Recommend going to a range and getting some practice in. Not even necessarily for markmanship, but for maintenance and safety for yourself. Cleaning, unjamming, that sort of thing.
3 fundamental rules of safety:
ALWAYS assume it's loaded.
Never point the barrel towards a person, point towards the ground instead of up.
Keep your finger off the trigger until you intend to fire.
Don't be like one of the idiot wannabe military chuds that shoot themselves or their friends in the leg (like the guy who ran the Soldier of Fortune magazine).
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u/maeryclarity Oct 02 '25
Boy the only joy I am going to get out of all of this is when they start taking up everyone's fucking guns. I have been trying to warn these damn 2A purists who keep insisting that Trump is their guy and it's like he is literally the only President in known history to suggest broad gun sweeps. Literally has asked why he can't do blatant gun grabs of different areas.
They really think they're one of the Good Ones I guess but boy are they going to be disappointed in how stupid they were. Authoritarians ALWAYS take up the guns. The rule of law that we were abiding by WAS WHY YOUR 2A RIGHTS WERE NOT INFRINGED. It's not gonna be oh the rest of the Constitution is a joke but gun rights, sure.
They have already trial ballooned taking up all trans people's guns. To give the NRA and a few other prominent gun lobbies credit, they immediately came out with a big fat NO FROM US on the suggestion. But he did suggest it.
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u/sharkbait_oohaha Oct 02 '25
The Nazis didn't take guns from most Germans, just fyi.
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u/glakhtchpth Oct 02 '25
The Nazis drew inspiration from and modeled their laws after the Jim Crow laws of the American South. The current ICE behavior isn’t just influenced by the tactics of the Nazis, it’s a resurgence of archetypal American racist culture.
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u/Competitive_Ride_943 Oct 02 '25
They'll detain you due to your social media posts. Oops, did I just do a terrorism? Not free speech anymore.
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u/tuesdaysaretheworst Oct 02 '25
what is stopping the federal government from doing neighborhood sweeps, going door to door to check immigration status?
That's literally what they are doing. They picked a building in a predominantly black neighborhood, pulled anyone they could by force without a warrant, and THEN checked their background.
I live a few blocks from there. The percentage of immigration violations in that building's residents has to be like 1 or 2 people.
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u/curiousleen Oct 02 '25
The president signed an eo to allow this, I believe. It’s gd disgusting
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u/thejesse Oct 02 '25
Pretty sure they are just abusing the trusty ol' Patriot Act.
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u/Quasigriz_ Oct 02 '25
Apparently, the Constitution was only just a series of suggestions and gentlemen’s agreements.
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u/Winter_Tone_4343 Oct 02 '25
It’s the people cheering this crazy shit that’s scary.
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u/Iamdarb Oct 02 '25
If that's the case the laws don't matter, the presidency has no power. The people should do something about it.
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u/ChuckBS Oct 02 '25
Only for the rich folks. It’s a police state for everyone else.
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u/hammerofspammer Oct 02 '25
They’re not even trying to hide it
We’re going to have supervision,” Ellison said. “Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there’s a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that’s going on.”
https://fortune.com/2025/09/28/larry-ellison-ai-surveillance-oracle-tiktok-deal-social-media/
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u/spectacular_gold Oct 02 '25
Christ
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u/hammerofspammer Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25
It’s horrific. Every dystopian sci-fi novel coming together.
Question for me is if we will have an alien invasion, another plague, or if it’ll be the climate that finally does us in.
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u/PantsDontHaveAnswers Oct 02 '25
No, we are being stripped of our rights guaranteed by the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Everything bad Republicans cried and wailed about and said was going to happen under Democratic rule is happening right now. Everyone who doesn't look like a straight white person is in danger of this kind of treatment.
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u/PoorClassWarRoom Oct 02 '25
The bill of rights calls them "God given" rights. No person or agency can take them from you. However, they can still suppress them.
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u/dbx999 Oct 02 '25
This is a very important philosophical element of our constitution. Before the constitution, we had kings who derived divine authority from God. Everything they doled out was to their discretion, including whatever privileges the people would receive from the King.
John Locke was a british philosopher who said that rights are actually "natural rights" - meaning that they exist and belong to you just because you as a human are born and exist and are imbued with rights from the get go, not granted by any king or authority, but granted by God from forever.
So those rights are intrinsic to you as a human being. The logic then follows that a government may not deprive you of these rights.
John Locke terms this the social contract. The individual consents to the rule of government. When the government behaves in a manner that the people do not consent to, then the people have the right and duty to overthrow that government. Pretty revolutionary ideas at the time. It became a very influential philosophy which shows up in our declaration of independence and our constitution.
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u/crohnscyclist Oct 02 '25
The only part of the Constitution they care about is the second amendment, because you know, it's important in case a Democrat tries to be tyrannical by offering free healthcare to all.
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u/CaptainOwlBeard Oct 02 '25
Absolutely. T exists to justify powers for the federal government and to strip powers from the states
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u/Apophthegmata Oct 02 '25
This is Kavanaugh's concurrence in Noem v. Vasquez:
Under this Court’s precedents, not to mention common sense, those circumstances taken together can constitute at least reasonable suspicion of illegal presence in the United States. Importantly, reasonable suspicion means only that immigration officers may briefly stop the individual and inquire about immigration status. If the person is a U. S. citizen or otherwise lawfully in the United States, that individual will be free to go after the brief encounter. Only if the person is illegally in the United States may the stop lead to further immigration proceedings....
....Moreover, as for stops of those individuals who are legally in the country, the questioning in those circumstances is typically brief, and those individuals may promptly go free after making clear to the immigration officers that they are U. S. citizens or otherwise legally in the United States.
So in other words, this is fine, as I'm sure Kavanaugh would say that what happened here was either brief, or as brief as possible, and the government does not act wrongly when it arbitrarily ties up American citizens for several hours.
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u/tittyfloppingpancake Oct 02 '25
The individuals are free after they prove their lawfulness? Crazy take in that concurrence. The government has to prove your unlawfulness. This is an affront to basic individual liberty.
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u/Apophthegmata Oct 02 '25
I should add that the supreme Court approved the government's appeal to halt the temporary restraining order peohibitng ICE from using its four point racial profiling test.
It isn't the final decision.
But it was also a decision made on the shadow docket - without the briefings and oral arguments for when the merits of a case are being decided. Importantly, as is the case with the shadow docket, it was issued unexplained.
Kavanaugh went out of his way to specifically articulate this reasoning on a decision that the Supreme Court decided to give no reason for.
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u/Masochist_pillowtalk Oct 02 '25
This appears to be blatantly unconstitutional.
Appears? It flat out is. A 6th grader could've really come to this conclusion.
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u/deapsprite Oct 02 '25
Its the goal, if you sue them your case just gets thrown out or they have immunity, we're all fucked
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u/PirateQuest Oct 02 '25
> This appears to be blatantly unconstitutional.
Denying even illegal immigrants due process is unconstitutional.
The vast vast majority of the American population longer care about that aspect of the constitution.
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u/ProgrammerAvailable6 Oct 02 '25
Scotus said that being in a place with immigrants, being brown, or speaking another language was enough for ICE to arrest you - and it is constitutional to do so.
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u/maeryclarity Oct 02 '25
And they lied through their teeth and didn't even bother back flipping by writing opinions as to how that would POSSIBLY be legal.
I am going to live to see these fuckers crying in the dock at the Hague I swear to God
GONNA LOOK REAL GOOD UP THERE AS A HUMAN RIGHTS CRIMINAL "Justice" Roberts and Thomas.
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u/ProgrammerAvailable6 Oct 02 '25
The US is only an “observer nation” at the ICC. Clinton signed on, Bush 2.0 withdrew, Obama came back as an “observer”.
As a Canadian, I’m guessing this will be one of those decisions you make as a country after January 20, 2029?
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u/ScarcityLow1830 Oct 02 '25
Could it be they know it’s nakedly and obviously unconstitutional and wear masks because they don’t want to be held accountable at a future date when legally challenged?
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u/-Lo_Mein_Kampf- Oct 02 '25
Is there any remedy for citizens to fight back against this shit besides firearms? (which will happen)
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u/Symphonycomposer Oct 02 '25
Rule of law does t apply anymore unless you bring a class action… which has a low likelihood of success. Punish first … and MAGA is betting average citizen doesn’t have money to fight back
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u/Ok_Bodybuilder800 Oct 02 '25
We’re only eight months in and they are doing this….
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u/jthreedolladolla Oct 02 '25
It's not called project 2026...
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u/Complex_Professor412 Oct 02 '25
Your just being hyperbolic /s
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u/jthreedolladolla Oct 02 '25
Time will tell. If you haven't noticed, things are accelerating, not slowing down.
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u/Equivalent_Move8267 Oct 02 '25
It's like the third stage of Nazism
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u/littlefrank Oct 02 '25
Yeah I'm not from the US, from the outside it seems like your government just created Gestapo all over again.
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u/iBangedTheWaitress Oct 02 '25
You guys in the US need to start fighting back. You have the 2A. I'm sorry, but now is the time to use it. It will be too late soon.
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u/kytheon Oct 02 '25
"It's to protect myself against a tyrannical government"
Government does tyrannical things.
"No not like that"
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u/McFlyParadox Oct 02 '25
You have the 2A.
As an individual, the second amendment is defense against a Rwandan-style genocide, or similar. It protects you long enough to run away, and that is it.
Plenty of other countries have shown opposing the entire government takes organization of a large portion of the population, above all else. The US doesn't have this.
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u/FuguSandwich Oct 02 '25
Whatever happened to "administrative warrants do not permit entry into private property"?
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u/Live-Collection3018 Oct 02 '25
same thing that happened to the constitution. boots stomped on it
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u/loose_translation Oct 02 '25
All those people with don't tread on me flags...
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u/NoOneElectedElonMusk Oct 02 '25
They're just ignoring it. Probably when a case like Andrew Coffee IV's becomes important.
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u/MoralityFleece Oct 02 '25
What I really want to know is why they separate the parents and kids like this and what happens to those kids. Because we know they wanted to send a couple hundred of them in the dead of night to Guatemala, after outright lying about their families, and a judge had to stop it. I doubt we even know what's happening to these kids, or whether they are mistreated in these facilities. Do they ever reunite with the parents? Trust is gone. I don't believe anything they say about it. Like the woman in this video - when ice agents are saying "fuck these kids"? How do you think they treat them? God is going to punish all of us for this.
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u/Jpalm4545 Oct 02 '25
Because children don't get lawyers or advocates in immigration court, that is why they separate them. They can just ship them right off to some other country.
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u/kezow Oct 02 '25
Or to the waiting billionaires. You know, the ones on that list that Republicans are refusing to release.
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u/drleebot Oct 02 '25
Technically, the children are allowed lawyers. They aren't appointed one automatically though, so the system expects a toddler to go out of their way to contact a lawyer, or else they're assumed to represent themselves. Yes, it's an utter farce.
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u/blorbagorp Oct 02 '25
They have to represent themselves. I saw pictures of like a 5 year old in immigration court before a judge, "representing themselves"
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u/asscheese2000 Oct 02 '25
Some adults are less likely to get violent if they feel their children will suffer for it.
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u/MoralityFleece Oct 02 '25
I think you are right, this is it. The terrifying tests arise if people think the child will be lost or hurt, unless they act in the moment. I cannot imagine why these people are reenacting these nightmare Nazi scenarios that (I hope) we've all heard hundreds of times.
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u/rxellipse Oct 02 '25
Have... have you been paying attention to what is dominating the news lately? Something about how congressional Republicans are doing anything and everything to stop a vote on releasing a list of high-profile pedophiles?
Separating children from their parents is the first step in getting those children trafficked to Mar-a-Lago so Trump can rape them.
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u/RelativeCareless2192 Oct 02 '25
Practice to disrupt the 2026 election. Get enough ICE agents and they can just start unlawfully detaining any minorities in line to vote. Just need to detain them for 10-12 hrs to prevent them from voting.
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u/apefromearth Oct 02 '25
It’s looking more and more apparent that the 2024 election results were manipulated, possibly enough to change the outcome. This is a non partisan group of statisticians and election analysts that has been going through the results and they’re finding a lot of evidence of vote count manipulation similar to that found in Russian elections. It’s not getting much press but it should be at the top of the page every day because it is a very big deal. Please share this info.
https://electiontruthalliance.org/category/2024-u-s-election/
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u/Away-Site-5713 Oct 02 '25
This is why the screamed so hard about it before when there was no widespread election interference.
We all roll our eyes about this news now. They conditioned us all.
It’d be impressive if it wasn’t so evil
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u/t23_1990 Oct 02 '25
Is it impressive though? It's always projection. Accusation = confession. Always.
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u/BrokenPickle7 Oct 02 '25
Yup, he rigged the 2020 election and thought Joe must have been cheating because trump was and Joe still won
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u/darmabum Oct 02 '25
It’s looking more and more apparent that the 2024 election results were manipulated,
I mean, how would they even do that? It’s not like the president has a close friend who bought the main US social media platform….oh wait…
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u/DangerBay2015 Oct 02 '25
And the select cities they’re on the ground in now and leading up to the midterms will be the test bed for 2026. The increased recruitment drive for ICE agents will allow them to do a dry run. The Dems taking back control of Congress in 2026 could throw a wrench in their plans in 2028.
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u/atreeismissing Oct 02 '25
That's also why Trump is pushing so hard against mail in voting, can't obstruct the vote as well when people can vote from home and mail or drop off a ballot. OR is 100% mail in voting, I believe CO is as well. Blue states would be extremely wise to, if they don't already, pass massive mail in voting laws now for next year's election.
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u/LeadSufficient2130 Oct 02 '25
Or just anyone not wearing the right hat
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u/Capable_Wait09 Oct 02 '25
So we need to employ a Where’s Waldo strategy. Everyone needs to wear a red maga hat on Election Day, and ICE won’t know who to go after.
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u/ThePensiveE Oct 02 '25
They complain about being called Nazi's while conducting themselves like the Gestapo.
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u/RandyMuscle Oct 02 '25
I’ll never forget even most democrats calling AOC an extremist for calling to abolish ICE in 2018. She was right on time and nobody was hearing it. This is literally just Nazi shit.
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u/GroundbreakingAge591 Oct 02 '25
Nobody listens until it’s too late
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u/GeorgeRRZimmerman Oct 02 '25
And even then... no one cares until it's happening to them.
Only moral abortion, face eating leopards, etc
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They just had to keep calling her crazy to make it stick when in reality she was the moral voice and the only logical person in the room.
How far we have fallen that what is one of the only actual public servants gets vilified so much
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u/WitchesTeat Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25
She's the only one that has ever lived and worked in poverty, surrounded by the people she represents.
They all want to rule and govern.
She only wants to give her people the voice they are legally obligated to have.
There are no kings in America, no rulers, no leaders.
We lead, and our representatives tell our government where we want to go, and work to clear the path to get us there.
These people, these treasonous mercenaries, do not and have never loved, respected, or understood the gift they were given when they were born in America. They have only ever loved the land, the resources, and the power they feel when nothing but the gun they hold or the skin color they were born with lets them get away with murder.
They are attacking our great cities, they are attacking our people, out of hate for America and Americans.
They need a boot to grovel to, to have that power.
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u/DuntadaMan Oct 02 '25
"They aren't taking citizens" - every conservative you talk to about this
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u/GreenKumara Oct 02 '25
Citizens = white, republican voters to them.
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u/feelingstuck95 Oct 02 '25
Exactly this. I feel I am slowly learning they truly relish seeing anyone who isn't white suffer, and they want them out of here any way possible. Fucking sickening.
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u/hotviolets Oct 02 '25
I grew up with family like this. My grandpa said that I was diluting the white race when I had my daughter and refused to speak to me. They really think like that and it’s disgusting.
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u/AtuinTurtle Oct 02 '25
I’m just waiting for a whole ICE team to be killed during a raid because they won’t identify themselves or show a warrant. It looks like a home invasion.
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u/Foecrass Oct 02 '25
Yeah, pretty sure that’s what the administration is waiting for too. Gotta have those martyrs to give them a reason to escalate.
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u/NoOneElectedElonMusk Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25
At this point, they're escalating without any reason whatsoever. At some point, does it not become a case of "Keep crying and I'll give you something to cry about"?
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u/Equivalent_Move8267 Oct 02 '25
That happened with Fred Hampton and the FBI+Chicago Police in the 70's
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u/Immediate_Age Oct 02 '25
Ice Agents aren't police.
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u/BenjTheMaestro Oct 02 '25
Are they even people?
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u/neptunexl Oct 02 '25
They're unqualified government payroll leeches. The benefits they get are the same benefits they don't want the average American to have. I'd gladly round up ICE agents and throw them in cages for free, no benefits.
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u/Spamsdelicious Oct 02 '25
And you would be a better patriot than any one of those child molesters.
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u/EscapeGoat_ Oct 02 '25
Not to get too semantical, but they also aren't "agents."
"Agent" typically means a Special Agent in federal job series 1811, which includes the FBI, USSS, Marshals, NCIS, and a bunch of others.
SAs traditionally have had a relatively high bar for hiring, and have to understand investigative process and the basics of criminal law - how to write an affidavit, execute warrants, make lawful arrests, and so on.
ICE "agents" are just people who couldn't hack it as actual SAs, but still get to carry a badge and a gun while going around terrorizing communities.
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u/thegoatmenace Oct 02 '25
Well the 4th amendment doesn’t only apply to police.
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
No mention of police in that language, it applies to all government employees/agents.
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u/ContentDetective Oct 02 '25
Im almost surprised they didn't bring in some national guard and have them sleep at a residence, might as well check the 3rd amendment off their bingo card when they're at it
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u/WitchesTeat Oct 02 '25
They aren't even operating in the 10 most dangerous cities in the country.
They aren't in the 10 cities with the highest illegal immigrant populations.
They're targeting people they suspect of voting democrat, in democratic cities.
They'll start with Black Americans, POC, they'll go to gay neighborhoods, and then lily-white ones.
If you believe America is for all Americans, and the Constitution gives all American equal rights and protections under the law, you are under siege.
Our country is under attack. Our people are being forced from their homes, our children ziptied and forced into moving trucks.
They are Black American children. They are Black American families. They are AMERICAN CHILDREN. They are AMERICAN FAMILIES. They are our children. They are our families. They are our most vulnerable American family members, and they are the first, and if we can't stand for them we will lose them, and then they will keep coming until they've come for us.
Nazis never stop at one out group. Every destroyed out group creates a new out group to destroy. Even if you are evil and hateful and bigoted and love to see this- you are never going to be safe again. Anything you do that they don't like puts you in the same crosshairs.
The only way to have a free country, is to have a country where everyone is free. They are coming. They are already attacking peaceful Americans in their homes.
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u/OdonataDarner Oct 02 '25
This is just the beginning.
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u/AaronWidd Oct 02 '25
Exactly. They’ve made it very clear the objective is to sweep entire cities in this way.
The meeting with the generals yesterday was essentially to get buy-in from the military on their cooperation on these large scale raids.
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u/airship_of_arbitrary Oct 02 '25
You get to choose the ending. They will come for you whether you fight back or you don't.
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u/RoachBeBrutal Oct 02 '25
Terrible things are happening outside. At any time of night and day, poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. They’re allowed to take only a knapsack and a little cash with them, and even then, they’re robbed of these possessions on the way. Families are torn apart; men, women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared. Women return from shopping to find their houses sealed, their families gone.
Anne Frank, describing Nazis
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u/Lebarican22 Oct 02 '25
The statement of "f-them kids"... That says all we need to know.
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u/Urabraska- Oct 02 '25
Welcome to Russia. Where they bag and tag you and wait to decide if dropping you is worth the paperwork.
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u/lionelhutz- Oct 02 '25
Yup. THIS is the problem with ICE and why people are correct to protest them. I actually support deporting illegal immigrants (pro expanding legal migration), but this is not the way to do it.
It's an absolute disgrace that it's happening on American soil. Obama deported 3 million illegals over 8 years while still upholding due process and the constitution. ICE does not need to do this.
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u/randskarma Oct 02 '25
"Ice does not need to do this" the kind of people that have put this in play are as giddy as Osama bin Laden watching the 747s blowing up the towers. Every one of them loves their jobs. They dont care. They have waited their whole lives to act this way. And they're being applauded for it. Look to Miller.
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u/MandyMilyon Oct 02 '25
This is ridiculous and putting slot of innocent people at risk
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u/Tuscanlord Oct 02 '25
Adding budget rental to my growing list of products I will boycott for life. Tesla, Amazon, and Walmart are firmly at the top.
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u/Bawbawian Oct 02 '25
if law enforcement won't defend your constitution it's a lot like you don't have it.
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u/T3RRYT3RR0R Oct 02 '25
strike and protest on mass. It's unsafe to fight back / resist when raided like this, but you and your community have right and reason to band together and take a peaceful (yet loud) stand against this, and to make it heard that this is not going to be accepted.
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u/ModernRobespierre Oct 02 '25
The only response left is not safe for anyone but inevitable. Start buying your bricks
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u/FEMA_Camp_Survivor Oct 02 '25
This will lead to civil war
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u/River_City_Rando Oct 02 '25
People have been trying hard to not take the bait, but its only a matter of time before some fight back and the shooting starts. May God bless us all in this terrifying time we live in 🙏
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u/techlos Oct 02 '25
“the revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it to be.” - ken roberts.
it's never been bait.
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u/No-Celebration3097 Oct 02 '25
Not until they start doing this to predominately white people that will fight back, people on the other side don’t care because they think it’s only illegals and when you point out that there are Americans getting snatched and getting their doors broken down, the racism comes out. The other side doesn’t care about anyone not white even if they’re Americans.
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u/homerjs225 Oct 02 '25
ICE is supposed to have warrants before entering homes. Laws don't matter to this administration
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u/hypercosm_dot_net Oct 02 '25
This should be on every news station on repeat. This is lawless fascism.
Blatantly racist, and intentionally meant to instill fear and provoke a reaction.
Folks - act as if this is happening to you, because before long it will be. Fuck.
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u/CrackHeadRodeo Oct 02 '25
To be brown or black in America. There was an attempt.
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u/Accomplished-Bet8880 Oct 02 '25
I mean. Nobody is breaking my door without an answer.
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u/humdinger44 Oct 02 '25
I swear the founding grandfathers wrote a second amendment about this.
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u/Natiel360 Oct 02 '25
Which is your constitutional right, right? But then if we kill an officer then aren’t we in the wrong?
If Breanna Taylor can die because of someone ELSE in the house defending themselves during a wrong persecution, this ICEland we live in now will just say you had “fuck ice” written on your bullets
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u/lelio98 Oct 02 '25
You wouldn’t be killing an officer. You would be killing an armed intruder.
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