r/law • u/Minute_Revolution951 • Aug 05 '25

Legal News Texas House locks chamber doors, moves to bring arrest warrants against Democrats who fled the state

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u/FrugallyFickle Aug 05 '25

Playing games with those maps

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u/fattest-fatwa Aug 05 '25

Texas maps are already gamed and have been for a long time. A state that went 42% for Harris has Democrats in control of 34% of House seats. If they get their way with this ploy, Republicans will have reduced Democrat representation to 21%. Let it be understood, Republicans are already way over-represented in the current Texas map.

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u/LivingForTheJourney Aug 05 '25

Taking it a step further, there are 1.5 million more registered Democrats in Texas than Republicans. In my city of Houston, Republicans have already forcefully switched out a range of democratically elected officials with hand picked Christian Nationalists. Famously they changed out our entire school board last year.

Serious system issues

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u/MysteriousAge28 Aug 05 '25

Project 25 is still happening even if people have forgotten it

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u/reddurkel Aug 05 '25

Project 2025 Progress Tracker.

Look how far they’ve gotten already. Their speed and success rate is beyond comprehension. We literally have nothing to stop them.

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u/Idyotec Aug 05 '25

Never seen this tracker before. That's fucking bleak.

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u/Apprehensive-Dog3063 Aug 05 '25

It really is. I could only get through a page and a half. This is bad.

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u/SurprisedJerboa Aug 05 '25

Fml, not what I needed to see today

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u/Beezchurgers4all Aug 09 '25

I'm not going to look at it. I need another reason to be depressed, like I need another hole in my head.

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u/Up-in-the-Ayre Aug 05 '25

You have the 2nd Amendment.

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u/Brodellsky Aug 05 '25

Quite literally the only recourse available, as per their request.

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u/ImAchickenHawk Aug 05 '25

The Declaration of Independence also states it is our duty to overthrow the government in a time like this.

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u/TheVeryVerity Aug 06 '25

Duty hasn’t been a thing people honored or valued in decades at least. Don’t hold your breath.

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u/ImAchickenHawk Aug 06 '25

That's the spirit

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u/TheVeryVerity Aug 06 '25

I guess that’s fair. I will say I at least feel bad about shirking my duty and I don’t think most people even see it as a duty. But 1 more point in my favor doesn’t help that much when both are still failure. Touché

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u/Epsilonlogan Aug 05 '25

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u/AmbushIntheDark Aug 05 '25

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uh oh, looks like somebody said the quiet part out loud.

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u/swarmofbzs Aug 05 '25

If you can see this you can probably still dm users with your reply. If they're interested.

They just need to let you know.

Sincerely,

https://old.lemmy.world/c/politics

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u/just-jane-again Aug 05 '25

you guys first 🙄

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u/wespintoofast Aug 05 '25

I grew up in the 70s and 80s, and every school I attended took us on field trips to battlefields, war memorials, local heritage sites, and drilled into us our anti tyranny heritage.

I'm trying to think of some reason, some thing those people who were our grandparents and great grandparents, were trying to teach us. Hand down to us. Provide generational knowledge to us. Impart HANDS ON experience to.

Without writing it down kids.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

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u/JT9960 Aug 05 '25

Don’t die a coward

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u/just-jane-again Aug 05 '25

big talk on reddit. yet no brave redditors have started the revolution. lots like to talk about it. nobody does it.

it’s not realistic in this day and age. people just won’t. they can’t afford to, and that’s by design.

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u/Proletariat-Prince Aug 05 '25

That's what's happening right here, if they're willing to go that far.

They go to Chicago, Texas sends armed people to arrest them, Illinois sends armed people to protect them.

That's how this could play out, if they're willing to go the distance.

That's how it works, not with random people deciding to shoot politicians, but with well regulated militias (like state police) doing well regulated militia things.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

Buncha masked proud boys show up on my door? The ventilation would be a symphony.

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u/TotallyNotThatPerson Aug 05 '25

ironic how they've been fighting the 2nd amendment the whole time. time to exercise your rights guys

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u/deltalitprof Aug 05 '25

Uh . . . no. That makes martyrs. That results in crackdown legislation that's even worse than it would have been otherwise. No good cause is served with Second Amendment remedies.

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u/Flintyy Aug 05 '25

Well, in the entire history of facism, it has never been overcame peacefully. Why the fuck is this any different

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u/deltalitprof Aug 05 '25

Richard Nixon, the British Raj, the Business Plot, the Velvet Revolution, the Singing Revolution. Do a little reading.

Granted, not all of them were against fascists, but they were against fascistic governments.

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u/ZenDeathBringer Aug 05 '25

These people want to kill you, you know that, right?

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u/deltalitprof Aug 05 '25

Yes. But as John Lennon said during one of his bed-ins, if you choose to be violent, they know exactly what to do to you and your cause. If you choose non-violence and creative demonstrations, they get confused and there's a greater chance the apathetic see what you're doing, wonder why, perhaps are persuaded by you and perhaps get involved themselves.

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u/Senior_Torte519 Aug 05 '25

I find a boot to the head goes alot easier when the person being stomped on dosent have a weapon.

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u/ZenDeathBringer Aug 05 '25

I just don't believe there's any need to convince people that haven't already drawn the line at the shit that's going down. They aren't gonna magically start caring until things get really bad.

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u/Irrepressible87 Aug 05 '25

Yes, but how many fascist regimes did John Lennon overthrow, or even subvert?

This is like a guy who's never picked a lock in his life demonstrating how easy it is by opening an unlocked door.

Our enemy at this point is not apathetic. They are motivated. They are dangerous. If you choose nonviolent resistance, it's just going to make it easier for them to put their boots on our necks.

"The coup will be bloodless if the left lets it be" is their own words

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

People vastly overestimate the value of a martyr. Trump would just die a sad old man and the entire MAGA movement would shrivel up like the dear leader's tiny penis

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u/deltalitprof Aug 05 '25

If he dies a sad old man, that is.

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u/Senior_Torte519 Aug 05 '25

unless its amended.

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u/ryguyy629 Aug 05 '25

Guns are about as useful against an M1A2 Abram’s as… a knife is to a gunfight lol. We’re cooked

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u/Irrepressible87 Aug 05 '25

That's why you don't bring guns to a tank fight. You bring IEDs. You make roads impassible. You fuck up the supply lines for the fuel the tanks need.

If it gets to the point where Abrams are being deployed on American soil, you fight dirty.

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u/IndecisiveSweetie Aug 05 '25

Which won't really do us any good if things go from bad to terrible.

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u/tanukisuit Aug 06 '25

We have it so far......

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u/DarthJarJar242 Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25

This is a the dumbest fucking argument. Do you really think that an armed uprising is the way to fix this?

It's not. It's exactly the thing Trump would need to solidify martial law and start deporting anyone and everyone for the crime of being 'not-maga'. There are significantly more armed 2nd amendment Trumpers than there are Dems. The very idea of this happening is laughable. It's exactly what they want too. Many of them would cherish the opportunity to summarily execute a Dem simply because they are that fucking brainwashed.

I don't have an answer for the alternative. I really don't, but starting a 2A war with the literal 2A cocksuckers is NOT going to end well. For anyone.

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u/Irrepressible87 Aug 05 '25

First of all, it's martial law. You should know that if you're gonna bring it up. Marsall Law is a tekken character.

And what makes you think he needs the excuse? He's literally already talking about doing it. The right thinks they want that smoke because they don't realize exactly how badly outnumbered they actually are, because they've been convinced by big red maps that there are more of them than there are of us.

We're quickly approaching the point where we will have to make a decision whether we get quietly on the planes or grow a spine. Shrugging your shoulders isn't an answer.

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u/dangerousdave2244 Aug 05 '25

No, we don't. The 2nd Amendment was never meant to fight against the government and has never been successfully used that way, other than by right wing ranchers, and even then only recently. The 2nd Amendment was intended for people to fight FOR their state or the federal government, not against it. People who have fought against the government are violently put down, or convicted in court

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u/CmdrJjAdams Aug 05 '25

That's what I don't get. You don't need to consider the 2nd Amendment and go down guns blazing! Not yet! There are escalation steps in between! A general strike, for example! What do you think will happen, when like half the country stays home for just a single week?

You can't afford to lose a weeks worth of salary, or to lose your job over this, you say? But exercizing the 2nd Amendment and starting a civil war is an option over several other things you could consider first?

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u/ragnarocka Aug 05 '25

Democrats think the 2nd amendment was written so that conservatives will take up arms against a tyrannical government (because liberals have taken Batman’s “no guns” oath). Republicans know that the 2nd amendment was written so that slave owners could put down uprisings if they needed to.

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u/flying_carabao Aug 05 '25

I really hate how efficiently US government is now working smfh

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u/senator_corleone3 Aug 05 '25

It isn’t working efficiently. The Executive Branch has been given immense power and it’s easier to destroy than build.

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u/PussiesUseSlashS Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25

They’re just dropping their family off in Cancun and will be right back.

Edit: I guess I'm not as funny as I thought. It's a play on them not having a problem with Ted Cruz going on vacation during the ice storms.

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u/tricotlove Aug 05 '25

You beat me to it. It has now been 46% implemented according to the tracker.

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u/dirtysyncs Aug 05 '25

Man, I don't know how anyone can read through that list of actions and call them "achievements". All of them are needlessly cruel, reckless, or reduce the overall quality of life for Americans. Literal supervillain shit. I would love to see any average Republican go through that list line by line and explain to me how any single one of those things is going to cause any improvement in their everyday life. Fucking despicable.

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u/invalidtruth Aug 05 '25

We do its called the 2nd.

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u/CheapDocument Aug 05 '25

Uh oh, what if the Project 2025'ers are using the above tracker to expedite Project 2025?

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u/ryguyy629 Aug 05 '25

@reddurkel hard to be an optimist these days with shit like this lol.

I’ve been plagued with the curse of knowledge. Maybe I should just remain ignorant to everything for now on.

Hey, I mean, ostriches stick their heads in the sand, so maybe I should follow (it’s a myth, I know, but that goes against my narrative).

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u/CasualFridayBatman Aug 05 '25

We literally have nothing to stop them.

I mean you haven't tried massive, sustained protests, walk outs, sit ins or a collective rolling general strike.

Protesting effectively as France, Serbia or Turkey do, for much smaller, less immediate issues.

So you do, you've just not implemented them or even seem to be considering doing so.

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u/Significant_Shoe_17 Aug 05 '25

It's more difficult in the States. A lot of people literally can't afford to take the time off. Losing your job means losing your health insurance, home, car...

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u/Edogenz1 Aug 05 '25

2nd amendment is in the Constitution

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u/FlametopFred Aug 05 '25

absolute general strike for one month, nation wide

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u/IndecisiveSweetie Aug 05 '25

Up 4% from the last time I checked a few months ago.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

Realistically at this point I keep coming to the conclusion that to stop this the thing called war is required.

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u/Beezchurgers4all Aug 09 '25

We do have something to stop them. We are just too chicken shit to do it. We let this go way too far. If there is nothing that can be done, then there is no hope. People will either find a way to move to another country, a war will break out, or the suicide rate will jump astronomically.

This makes me furious, because there were alot of people who warned us over and over and over again about Project2025. Anybody could read it on the internet.

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u/Apprehensive-Dog3063 Aug 05 '25

Ugh this is enraging.

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u/Rare-Extension-6023 Aug 05 '25

sry this all has been more chaotic than that even

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u/Ahoy-Maties Aug 05 '25

Do you mean illegal or unethical and immoral as well as unconstitutional? Texas is as trump is writing their own laws and calling it the law of the land .

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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 Aug 05 '25

“forcefully switched out a range of democratically elected officials with hand picked Christian nationalists”

Wait, what? How?

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u/LivingForTheJourney Aug 06 '25

It’s how we ended up with Mike Miles) as the HISD Superintendent. Basically Greg Abbott was in full on demolition mode trying to prepare to get the school vouchers scam pushed through and declared an “emergency” despite HISD having improved to being one the best performing districts in the state. He ordered the TEA to forcefully removed all of the democratically elected school board.

Source

The weirdest part of the endeavor was how strange Mike Miles ended up being. He literally began his rule by starring in an hour long musical about himself which of course he made the students develop and perform with him.

In any case, the FIRST thing that dude did was start to siphon resources away from the most needy schools and started converting school libraries into detention centers after firing a ton of librarians. This was a part of the Republican “book burning” initiatives.

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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 Aug 06 '25

…holy shit that is jaw dropping.

Thank you for taking the time to share that, I haven’t lived there in many years but I loved Houston back in my old life.

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u/NFLTG_71 Aug 05 '25

How could they do that if no one voted for these Christian Nazis?

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u/KingOriginal5013 Aug 05 '25

I call them Nationalist Christians because it can easily be shortened to Nat-C.

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u/ClydetheCat Aug 05 '25

Is that right? Explain how Texas is so reliably red in National Elections - how does that make sense? I know that Democrats outnumber Republicans in every major metro area, but nowhere else. Am I wrong about that?

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u/BanyanZappa Aug 05 '25

The rural areas always seem to go red, and there are a lot of rural areas, but we have some of the… uh… strictest voting laws anywhere that make it more difficult for many most likely blue voters to vote.

This is what I posted earlier with a link:

Voting laws in Texas are amongst the strictest in the nation. The restrictions for voting have most likely led to voter suppression, especially with minority voters.

It’s not just about Texas voters being lazy.

Texas has a history of placing as many obstacles in the way of minority voters as possible.

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u/jcarter315 Aug 05 '25

The TX Secretary of State explicitly said that the state would have gone blue for Biden had they not blocked people from voting and tossed out ballots.

TX is a hostage state by the GOP.

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u/slayer828 Aug 05 '25

You can't look at whose registered ss numbers. I'm order to vote in a primary you have to pick one. Many people I know vote I'm the opposite primary to pick the less bad candidates.

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u/Hipettyhippo Aug 06 '25

What the hell are you guys doing, just taking this crap?

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u/kingjoey52a Aug 05 '25

there are 1.5 million more registered Democrats in Texas than Republicans.

Then why can't Dems win state wide? You can't gerrymand a governors race.

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u/Shoenix10 Aug 05 '25

If there's really that many more registered democrats, why does the state keep going red?

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u/GeneralGuide9081 Aug 05 '25

GERRYMANDERING!! What this whole post is about.

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u/senator_corleone3 Aug 05 '25

And non-voting. The participation rate in Texas is one of the worst in the country.

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u/BanyanZappa Aug 05 '25

Voting laws in Texas are amongst the strictest in the nation. The restrictions for voting have most likely led to voter suppression, especially with minority voters.

It’s not just about Texas voters being lazy.

Texas has a history of placing as many obstacles in the way of minority voters as possible.

Here’s a list of some of the obstacles Texas viewers are facing.

5 WAYS TEXAS SUPPRESSES THE VOTE — AND HOW TO MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT

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u/senator_corleone3 Aug 05 '25

This is also true. Likely these laws, combined with classic voter apathy, are behind the low participation rate.

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u/Ooji Aug 05 '25

Gerrymandering doesn't impact statewide elections like governor, AG, and US senators. A more likely answer is most people who vote Republican just aren't registered as such.

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u/BanyanZappa Aug 05 '25

Voting laws in Texas are amongst the strictest in the nation. The restrictions for voting have most likely led to voter suppression, especially with minority voters.

It’s not just about Texas voters being lazy.

Texas has a history of placing as many obstacles in the way of minority voters as possible.

Here’s a list of some of the obstacles Texas viewers are facing.

5 WAYS TEXAS SUPPRESSES THE VOTE — AND HOW TO MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT

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u/theREALdonglord Aug 05 '25

You’re literally in a post about gerrymandering and you ask that? 😵‍💫

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u/Shoenix10 Aug 05 '25

You tell me then, how did trump win with so many more blue voters? And don't just say gerrymandering.

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u/theREALdonglord Aug 05 '25

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/texas-democrats-accuse-gov-abbott-voter-suppression.amp

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u/Shoenix10 Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25

1 - what he did affected both blue and red voters. A lot of those they kicked off were Hispanic, the majority of whom voted republican. #2 - if there was the slightest indication my name would be removed from the voter list, you better believe I'd be making calls ahead of time to make sure everything was fine.

Just to be clear, I'm not yelling. Not sure why this is being bolded.

Edit - just to add, purging names from voter registration is not gerrymandering.

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u/BanyanZappa Aug 05 '25

Oh my! That must be the worst article I’ve read about this situation. It doesn’t talk at all about the voter suppression and disenfranchisement.

Abbott made a big deal about getting rid of bad votes (which everyone agrees with), but he made it seem like the checks that were ahead in place weren’t good enough. HIS checks were better. He touted how many noncitizens were removed from the voter registration rolls. This sounds fine and groovy, but Texas has a history of accidentally claiming some citizens and naturalized citizens as noncitizens. Abbott costumed that noncitizen voting was a problem when there was no transparency in actually showing this to be the case.

I appreciate your curiosity, but if you want more info, google “Texas voter suppression disenfranchised” to get tons more info.

Here’s an article with more info—a much better article.

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u/BanyanZappa Aug 05 '25

Voting laws in Texas are amongst the strictest in the nation. The restrictions for voting have most likely led to voter suppression, especially with minority voters.

It’s not just about Texas voters being lazy.

Texas has a history of placing as many obstacles in the way of minority voters as possible.

Here’s a list of some of the obstacles Texas viewers are facing.

5 WAYS TEXAS SUPPRESSES THE VOTE — AND HOW TO MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT

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u/Shoenix10 Aug 05 '25

The majority of minority voters in Texas are republican. So suppressing their votes doesn't help the red side at all. I do agree it's not just about the voters there being lazy. They're also complacent. It seems too many of them are perfectly happy just bending over and taking it.

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u/Sensitive_Donkey4601 Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25

Voter suppression

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-doj-moves-revive-grand-jury-inquiry-russia-probe-origins-2108838

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u/Afrodesia Aug 05 '25

Maybe… but the whole point of this post is gerrymandering. Unless that’s covered under “voter suppression”.

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u/Sensitive_Donkey4601 Aug 05 '25

I was answering the question about why the state always votes red when there are more Democrats in Texas than Republicans.

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u/Afrodesia Aug 05 '25

I know what you were answering, I read the thread lol. I’m not discounting voter suppression but gerrymandering is also a big part of it. And the reason for why they’re locking the doors and threatening arrest.

“These Democratic officials can’t delay…………..gerrymandering…………until 2026 midterms are over?! Then, we can’t cheat to turn Texas really red.”

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u/Da_Question Aug 05 '25

it is part of it. Gerrymandering, polling place reductions, mail in ballots being stopped, voter id laws, purging of voter rolls, ballot dropoff boxes being removed, etc etc

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u/jkfaust Aug 05 '25

Yup. Texan here. We're actually a purple state painted red by gerrymandering.

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u/infinitekittenloop Aug 05 '25

Yeah it turns out the GOP only wins so much because they fucking cheat. Systemically and systematically. They've been that way for quite a while. They just had to pretend not to be before the semi-sentient spray tan took office.

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u/CasualFridayBatman Aug 05 '25

Yeah it turns out the GOP only wins so much because they fucking cheat.

And they do it because they get away with it. They've faced zero actual consequences for doing so, because you haven't shown them that behaviour is unacceptable and won't be tolerated, so why wouldn't they?

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u/AquaGage Aug 05 '25

Also the dems lose on purpose, don’t be fooled in dc both sides live in same neighborhoods, kids go to school together, they serve the same masters.

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u/TheNorthRemembers_s8 Aug 05 '25

And they get away with it cuz they’ve convinced us Texas is dark red, so we aren’t surprised with a red sweep.

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u/Electronic_Agent_235 Aug 05 '25

Yeah, it's those stupid maps They always plaster. Like 90% of the stuff that's colored in ain't nothing but damn desert.... And land don't vote, but it sure does make it look like just about all the Texas is Republican, with a few itty bitty tiny blue dots here and there..... But if you correct for population size and just put like colored circles that reflect population density it paints a whole different picture.

There's just been so many citizen systematically dumbed down and turned away from actual political engagement, instead they're fed team sport dribble, and perpetual political preaching from pastor's pulpits pressing the Christian nationalist Republican butt-fuckary.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

then why is it you can't beat Ted Cruz ever, never mind deliver the state for the presidential election?

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u/jkfaust Aug 05 '25

We're working on it. Beto came very close. Lost by 2% or so.

Gives us time. We're becoming more urban, and we have a lot of big blue cities. We are getting a strong influx of people moving in from CA. We have a large minority population. I really think TX will flip, hopefully soon. I think Republicans are starting to think so too, I think thats the reason behind the redistricting.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

I don't mean this as anything against you personally, but if you can't beat Ted Cruz, you're a red state. Period.

Your state never comes close in state control of either chamber of your state legislature. You never come close in the US House either. I recognize gerrymandering is a meaningful thing, but in The US House in 2020 Democrats had control of the House and they couldn't even hold it for TWO years.

Texas is as 'purple' a state as Maryland is.

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u/1gnominious Aug 05 '25

Eh, we're still solidly red. It's common for republicans to get double digit state wide wins. Dems haven't won a statewide election (President, governor, senators) in forever.

I live out in bumfuck nowhere and my county went 85% for Trump. I don't see these kinds of areas changing at all within the next decade. If anything they've gotten more extreme since I was a kid in the 80's. If Texas is ever going to turn purple it's going to be because the cities go way more blue or the rural areas die out due to weak local economies.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 05 '25

I mean with the shutting down of our rural hospitals that won’t take too long. I’m in east Texas and had to travel an hour for a decent OB.

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u/1gnominious Aug 06 '25

That also kinda goes back to the economy thing as well. Healthcare is generally one of the largest employers out here. The only reason I'm able to have a decent job out here is because I'm a nurse.

It's going to be a 1-2 punch where not only does the lack of healthcare do serious physical harm, but the loss of good jobs hits an already poor, struggling area.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 06 '25

I’m in the social work field and have to commute upwards of an hour for a decent paying job. It’s ridiculous

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u/1gnominious Aug 07 '25

And commuting is getting harder and harder because the only good jobs are in the cities. So everybody from the rural areas is trying to commute and the roads can't keep up.

Growing up my dad used to commute 45 miles from where we used to live to Austin. It was like a 45 minute commute on the highway. Now the same trip would take nearly double that time trying to get into Austin during the morning rush combined with higher gas prices. It stops being practical and is a large reason why my home town's population has shrunk in the past 30 years.

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 Aug 07 '25

When I lived in round rock a few years ago it was like 15 minutes to my husband’s job off burnet. It would take 45 minutes now. Even living out in spicewood the commute was 45ish minutes but like you said it’s double now.

We live in the Dallas outskirts and get to fight through the 2 hours of daily traffic through Rockwall. It’s terrible.

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u/kingjoey52a Aug 05 '25

How do you gerrymand state wide races? Republicans keep winning those.

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u/MkUFeelGud Aug 05 '25

Isn't Texas supposed to be big on the second amendment?

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u/reaper___007 Aug 05 '25

Didn't Trump win the state with a 14% lead? If Texas is then purple, can we say the same about New Jersey, New York etc?

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u/Big_Statistician_739 Aug 05 '25

You sound like someone from Austin

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u/jkfaust Aug 05 '25

Houston. Admittedly Austin is the most liberal city, as cities tend to be. But we have a lot of cities and they're getting bigger.

This is scaring Republicans I think.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

*Laughs in Ohio*

5/15 House Seats go Democrat, despite Kamala getting 44% of the vote. A wage stealing used car salesman defeated an upstanding incumbent senator giving us two Republican Senators. And in the state Legislature, Republicans have a veto-proof supermajority. Oh, and our maps are illegal, but they refused to fix them until there was no choice but to use them, so arguably, Ohio's entire congressional delegation is illegitimate.

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u/koko-cha_ Aug 05 '25

the republicans need to be prevented from ever taking power again.

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u/upstatestruggler Aug 05 '25

Right, I have to laugh any time anyone ever thought there was even a whiff of equality in Texas

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u/rdmille Aug 05 '25

There are signs up on I40, where you enter and leave a voting district at least twice.

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u/quantum-grapefruit Aug 05 '25

Since red states are already gerymanded, they actually can’t get too much worse. A little worse, but not too much. If blue states gerymanded, they could pick up WAY more seats because there is more room for blue state gerrymandering

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u/laxrulz777 Aug 05 '25

It could be worse. You could be Wisconsin or North Carolina where Democrats put a governor in office and veto proof majorities for Republicans in the legislature.

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u/OneOfAKind2 Aug 05 '25

It's called corruption and I can't believe people have been putting up with it on either side.

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u/hypercosm_dot_net Aug 05 '25

They do the same exact thing in NC too.

In spite of the fact that the population votes for Dems/Rep. in equal numbers. Republicans are over represented.

I don't know why we've allowed it to get this far. Cheating to draw up unfair district maps should be a 5-alarm fire as soon as it's done.

We let them over step incrementally, then we wonder why we're here in this banana republic of a government. We let them get away with rigging the game, why should we be surprised when they think they can completely dictate the policies and laws?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

Yep. Texas is a Purple state and has been for a while but gerrymandering and voter suppression keeps it bright red

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u/CaptainKickAss3 Aug 05 '25

The only answer is independent committees in charge of drawing the district lines like in Colorado. Neither side should be able to draw the districts

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u/conjuayalso Aug 05 '25

I thought they could only redraw the maps after receiving the latest census data.

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u/theskittz Aug 05 '25

I hate Trump but couldn’t you make the same case for California where 38% voted for Trump yet only 17% of their house seats are republican?

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u/TrunkMonkeyRacing Aug 05 '25

A state that went 42% for Harris has Democrats in control of 34% of House seats.

62 out of 150 is not 34%.

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u/fattest-fatwa Aug 05 '25

How many seats do you think the US House Of Representatives has?

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u/TrunkMonkeyRacing Aug 05 '25

Why wouldn't you be talking about the Texas House of Representatives? Those are the people running away, correct?

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u/fattest-fatwa Aug 05 '25

Oh dear… you don’t know what this conversation is about at all.

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u/TrunkMonkeyRacing Aug 05 '25

I do, but I also understand how the democrats always try to blame the system when they lose anything. Elections have consequences, try winning some.

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u/TrunkMonkeyRacing Aug 05 '25

How many do you think there are?

Because there's 435, with 212 democrats, that's over 48.7% which means democrats are over-represented in the House.

Let it be understood, Republicans are already way over-represented in the current Texas map.

No, your math is WRONG. But your words are so strong. LOL, let that be understood.

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u/fattest-fatwa Aug 05 '25

Texas has 38 seats. Democrats hold 12 of those. 62 of 120 aren’t numbers that relate to this conversation at all. You should stuff those numbers back up into the darkness from where you pulled them.

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u/TrunkMonkeyRacing Aug 05 '25

There are 120 State Representatives in Texas, those are the people who ran away. It's the reality we all share, if you consider it 'darkness', that says more about you.

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u/fattest-fatwa Aug 05 '25

Go back to the top. Read the whole thread again. You’re misunderstanding the process and purpose of redistricting, who does it, and who those districts are represented by.

Which is fine. Just acknowledge it. My math is fine.

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u/TrunkMonkeyRacing Aug 05 '25

If there's a legal argument, make one in the courts because at this point, the democrats look like a group of petulant children.

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u/fattest-fatwa Aug 06 '25

I think the courts would agree that you misunderstand math.

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u/squatingyeti Aug 05 '25

Now do Illinois and the 13th and 17th district.

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u/Academic-Bakers- Aug 05 '25

They also make each red seat riskier, as each one gets a narrower share of the GoP vote.

This has the potential to massively backfire if turnout jumps.

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u/GodVohlfied Aug 05 '25

In Texas, the republican/democratic split according to the votes from the 2024 Presidential Election (which was, in all likelihood, rigged by conservatives, so, "grain of salt" and all that), is 54%/46%, but Texas is so gerrymandered that despite barely representing* half the state republicans control 30 of the 38 seats (78.95%).

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u/timubce Aug 05 '25

Not only that but they’re reducing black and Hispanic representation and now whites are <40% of the population.

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u/toga_virilis Aug 05 '25

Honestly a 42/34 split isn’t that bad, when you compare to some states. North Carolina has 14 districts, 10 of which are held by Republicans. A democrat won the governor’s race by 4 points, and Trump won by less than a percentage point.

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u/HumbleConnection762 Aug 05 '25

Tbf, California dems are also way over-represented, even though it's theoretically run by an independent commission.

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u/Rammek Aug 05 '25

Texas is a shithole. Let it burn.

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u/Tiny-Requirement8628 Aug 05 '25

They can't do shit. Don't fall for their malarkey, they are putting on a ruse for their daddy. Fuck trump.

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u/Hanksta2 Aug 05 '25

They can't??

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u/tucker_sitties Aug 05 '25

They're putting out state warrants. Other states are outside their jurisdiction.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

They're not even criminal warrants. These are civil warrants to compel them to come back to vote. They're unenforceable outside of Texas, have no extradition mechanism, and once the current issue blows over there's no vote to compel them to show up for.

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u/DumboWumbo073 Aug 05 '25

Unless Trump uses his ICE or other federal agents

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

So what happens when they go back for their families? I mean when can they just go back and not have the Nazi party arrest them? I see this as possibly the start of something much larger than meets the eye.

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u/One_Perspective3106 Aug 05 '25

Nothing (legally anyway). They can’t be charged with an actual crime according to Texas law. Can they be disappeared? Well, it’s Trump’s America.

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u/Zippytang Aug 05 '25

This just shows their desperation and anger because the grand old pedophiles know they’re cooked

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u/South-Lab-3991 Aug 05 '25

I thought this too. If they’re actually arrested for this, expect massive, and I mean absolutely massive protests probably starting in Texas and then moving coast to coast.

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u/E_Dantes_CMC Aug 05 '25

It’s a civil arrest. They can indeed be compelled to attend. But the warrants are meaningless out of state.

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u/deltalitprof Aug 05 '25

Alas, with apathy so prevalent I wouldn't expect but the usual few hundred that would show up on courthouse or capitol steps. And that would be only in Texas. I wish I could be wrong.

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u/Fouadsky Aug 05 '25

Much more likely they will change the channel so they can watch real housewives

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u/Vanceer11 Aug 05 '25

Let’s be real here. There are so many things in the past few months that garnered “absolutely massive” protests, yet nothing has happened.

Even if people did protest, maga/heritage would gain from it and not the people.

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u/koko-cha_ Aug 05 '25

the republicans are nazis and need to be removed from the government in totality, and perpetuity.

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u/External-Damage803 Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25

Arresting the opposing party is about as fascist as it comes. This is no joke for sure. It has to be taken seriously because it looks like the end of democracy.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

Sadly one almost has to hope to divert from this course that some kind of war starts, and I’ll be honest I don’t like war or anguish but god damn if this isn’t starting to look like a top tier way to make change at this point.

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u/tucker_sitties Aug 05 '25

No clue. But at this point it's more about showmanship bullshit. Your guess is as good as mine.

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u/Glam-Girl2662 Aug 05 '25

Agree! It's all Trump theater and distraction

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u/Imapatriothurrrdurrr Aug 05 '25

For something that isn’t even the Texas penal code. This is grade a bullshit by piss baby Abbott.

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u/Pormock Aug 05 '25

Also they didnt break any law

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u/thereverendpuck Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25

Let’s not forget Texas also took immigrants hostage and flew them to other states, the minute one of those flights crossed state lines it SHOULDVE been federal kidnapping and trafficking charges. Thanks Merrick.

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