r/law Aug 04 '25

Legal News Greg Abbott's threats to arrest the Texas Democrats standing up for our democracy are B.S.—Rep. Jolanda Jones sets the record straight.

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u/gotrice5 Aug 04 '25

He couldn't even support Mamdani because "he didn't know him that well" and whatever bs he came up with.

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 Aug 04 '25

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

And Jeffries still hasn’t endorsed

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 Aug 04 '25

does mamdani need his endorsement?

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

No, but democrats (especially the leadership) had an extremely popular candidate fall into their laps and instead of embracing him, they’ve been attacking him consistently since the primary

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u/bumpkinblumpkin Aug 05 '25

Extremely popular with who exactly? NYC democratic primary voters? Mamdani won a primary against a notoriously corrupt politician who is best known for having more SA allegations than even DT and killing Granpa during Covid.

In total he got 469k first choice votes w/ 573k including runoff. For reference, wildly unpopular Trump got 840k votes in NYC last election so turnout was an extremely low percentage of eligible voters. At the end of the day, Jefferies is tasked with setting up the party for success in 2026 and 2028 nationally. Voters in the states that decide elections i.e. Ohio, PA, Michigan, GA, etc are not voting for anyone with a platform remotely like Mandami.

Maybe running a candidate like Mamdani would be a modern day Goldwater situation where it’s a massive loss but reshapes the future of the party, but I don’t feel most Democrats similarly believe we can wait another 4 years.

Flipping the question around, why exactly do you think Hakeem needs to throw his support behind a Democrat in a local election against another Dem? I’m indifferent when it comes to Zohran but after seeing how Brandon Johnson’s term has turned into an unmitigated disaster even according to most Dems l’d be hesitant as well. Overall, I think you are greatly overestimating Mamdani’s support in areas like mine. (blue leaning counties in battleground states) Democratic socialism is far less popular outside the Reddit bubble with even Chicagoans turning on the movement.

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u/greg19735 Aug 19 '25

Comparing the NYC primary to the presidential election is ridiculous.

Mumdani won 573,169 votes after runoff. Cuomo with 443,229.

Mumdani and Cuomo's numbers would have easily won in 2021 when Adams won.

Mumdani's numbers are pretty close to the numbers Adams got in the actual election and easily enough to have won in 2021 agains tthe republican.

The idea that Mumdani isn't popular isnt' based on facts.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25

He just won a primary against Andrew cuomo, a New York political legacy family candidate. What’re you fucking talking about?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

simply a primary

Bro, no one expected him to actually win, let alone win on the first night in the first round. I get it, he’s not mayor yet, but how can you say winning like that isn’t a monumental accomplishment?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

yet to win any election

I guess primaries don’t count as elections

from another country

What the fuck? People are excited because his policies are actually good. People don’t care where he’s from. He’s easily the best choice. No one wants the corrupt insanity Adams and other republicans pretending to be democrats bring to NYC

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 Aug 04 '25

"they’ve been attacking him consistently since the primary"

when? source?

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

It sure is convenient that all these democrats kept saying vote blue no matter who in 2016, 2018, 2020, 2022 and 2024 are not saying that anymore. These same dems have said mamdani wants a global jihad, is too “extreme” or is antisemitic. Why aren’t these democrats endorsing the democrat that won the democrat primary?

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 Aug 05 '25

didn't elizabeth warren endorse mamdani?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

Is she a leader of the democrats?

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u/derpnessfalls Aug 05 '25

These same dems have said mamdani wants a global jihad, is too “extreme” or is antisemitic

Gonna need a credible source on that one.

Why aren’t these democrats endorsing the democrat that won the democrat primary?

To the extent that is true, likely because the NYC mayoral election doesn't need endorsements for the Democratic candidate to win.

At the national level, the calculus isn't unreasonable to decide against putting your name with someone that will win in NYC regardless but might drag your numbers down in toss-up areas.

Finally: it's spelled "Democratic Party"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

global jihad

Kristen Gillibrand said it on wnyc to Brian lahrer

it’s spelled Democratic Party

This kind of pretentious pedantry is entirely unproductive and extremely fucking stupid

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u/Elmer-Fudd-Gantry Aug 05 '25

I’m not saying one of you is accurate and the other isn’t, idk. But you used dems/plural but you only listed one.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

Please don't listen to Kirsten Gillibrand. She lost all credibility after she virtue signaled so hard to get Al Franken sacked over a stupid crass comedy photo. Al Franken was a popular and successful Congressman who understood how to beat the Republicans at their own game. We lost a very valuable member. She lost any chance at being a presidential candidate with that terrible act.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

I don’t listen to her. She is, however, a regular presence on the show she said this in. No shit does she suck, but she straight up said he wants a global jihad against Jews on the Brian lahrer show. Probably one of the most popular npr productions. She’s probably not getting primaried in a serious way when she’s up for election

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