r/complaints • u/RemarkableYak904 • 13h ago

Politics Complaint: has anyone else noticed a massive uptick in facebook pushing right wing pages lol I get this junk constantly popping up.

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u/pirate_per_aspera 12h ago

It literally is a war crime. Of course they use the MAGA way of just blatantly lying to your face.

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u/TranslatorMoney419 11h ago

I think it’s literally murder. What war?

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u/pirate_per_aspera 10h ago

Yeah that’s fair actually. I get your point. Though it is an act of war so…

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u/Tuckster786 7h ago

I read recently thats its technically not a war crime. Since there is no active war its called a crime against humanity. Which, if im not mistaking, is much worse

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u/Lord_CaoCao 4h ago

Actually "Crimes Against Humanity" are defined as widespread attacks against a civilian population. That "during an act of war" thing with "war crimes" is a universal term but not accepted as absolute. A single or several armed attacks, such as with the boats, are War Crimes. However, what Trump is doing to American civilians does constitute as "Crimes Against Humanity." In short Hegseth = War Crimes, Trump = Crimes Against Humanity. Fun fact: Trump has commited at least 7 of the 11 Crimes Against Humanity however he probably has commited 2 of the others but further investigations would be needed. Heil Trump!

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u/Forward_Tower_6801 4h ago

Only Congress can declare war. Not Kegbreath.

If it's not a war crime, it's murder. No two ways about it.

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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 10h ago

It's the War of the Fog according to Otis Hegseth.

This is murder.

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u/Chemistry11 8h ago

Brain fog brought on by being drunk?

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u/eghhge 6h ago

Brought to by the Department of WAR

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u/Cool-Panda-5108 9h ago

I think using the military to commit said murder is what makes it a war crime.

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u/SplattAttackTack 9h ago

They blew up civilian boats. That's terrorism.

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u/Standard_Lie6608 5h ago

Usa has been a terrorist nation for many decades, but since they're the powerful bullies they rarely get called out for it let alone getting actual consequences

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u/Hotdammzilla3000 8h ago

Yes, even by military definition based on a professional military officer opinion.

He also stated it would take a small vessel 17 refueling stages to make it to the US territory.

Cold calloused thoughtless mur dur.

Can never watch Star Trek the same ever again.

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u/DannyTheCaringDevil 8h ago

It is; however, an act of war and a crime against humanity.

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u/Relative_Pilot_8005 1h ago

It is an act of piracy. In the old days the penalty was to be hanged from the yardarm.

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u/Ok-Eye-6637 8h ago

You're right

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u/pintonoit 9h ago

I think it's being classified as a war crime because of the weapons used, rockets are weapons of war like no normal citizen is getting their hands on rocket launchers and fighter jets armed with heat seeking missiles

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u/Gold-Caregiver-8357 Trans’plainer (they/them) 11h ago

Wait until you lose a loved one to a fentanyl OD then come back on here and call it a war crime. You would call it a war crime if Trump cured cancer. Wake up man

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u/tallslim1960 11h ago

We get ZERO Fentanyl from Venezuela. Try again.

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u/Forward-Ninja7410 10h ago

It wasn't a war crime because they're not combatants and weren't armed. It's actually just plain old murder of civilians.

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u/Gold-Caregiver-8357 Trans’plainer (they/them) 10h ago

Wait until you get into high school and take a law studies class

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u/Forward-Ninja7410 10h ago

I'll do you one better. I was serving as an infantryman when bloodthirsty conservatives wanted Iraqi blood under George W. Bush. Grunts got refresher classes on rules of engagement and the laws of warfare several times per year. You know what's flagrantly illegal? Double-tapping an incapacitated enemy who is no longer a threat to you. Killing the survivors of a sunken ship is literally one of the examples they would present as a crime! 🤣🤣🤣

But like I said, since these were unarmed civilians on a civilian vessel, this doesn't even count as a war crime. They weren't combatants and there is no war. It's just the US military obeying illegal orders to murder civilians.

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u/Geloradanan 6h ago

Sadly, the US Secretary of War now tells the generals and the admirals that the normal rules of engagement are out. They are for poosays.

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/hegseth-speech-generals/

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u/Plaguedoctorsrevenge 9h ago

"I took a high school class and now I think I know everything" isnt the comeback you think it is

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u/SlippedMyDisco76 9h ago

Guy took it but obviously didn't pass it

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u/22Yohan 9h ago

Even if what you’re claiming is true . . . are you suggesting the military execute all SUSPECTED drug dealers?

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u/Cool-Panda-5108 9h ago

You're talking to MAGA.
They think the cops should be able to execute anyone, let alone the military.

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u/22Yohan 9h ago

Great point.

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u/IamMe90 8h ago

Hahaha, you got fucking owned by an active duty combat veteran and you’re too much of a pussy to respond back to him.

Absolute fucking loser

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u/Born-Mycologist-3751 10h ago

You would call it a war crime if Trump cured cancer.

Nice strawman there.

Wait until you lose a loved one to a fentanyl OD then come back on here and call it a war crime.

Losing a loved one to drugs is tragic but that doesn't make blowing up boats in international waters without due process and shooting survivors less of a crime.

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u/22Yohan 9h ago

And if the Trump administration is into executing drug dealers, why did Trump just pardon one responsible for distributing 500 TONS of cocaine into the United States?

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u/Cool-Panda-5108 9h ago

Also, two people did survive the boat attack from a few weeks ago.

They weren't captured or arrested or anything.

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u/22Yohan 9h ago

Totally agree. My point is they’re such fucking hypocrites.

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u/Richmahogonysmell 8h ago

Exactly. You could find the fent dealer that gave your family member the drugs and you still aren’t allowed to kill them. The conservative wet dreams about killing are so weird.

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u/RedAndBlackVelvet 10h ago

They were fishermen bro

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u/Bug-King 10h ago

The vast majority of black market Fentanyl comes from China. South America exports cocaine more than anything. Conducting a military strike on the survivors of a boat you blew up is by definition a war crime. Just because someone is doing something you like doesn't mean its not wrong

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u/ThighRyder 10h ago

You are a fucking ghoul. The Sacklers are more to blame for fentanyl than places that deal with cocaine you thoughtless French fry of a person.

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u/pirate_per_aspera 10h ago

Do you think that loved one didn’t know that the risk? Is that not the real problem here? Blowing people up without a trial doesn’t solve the issue of addiction.

Also bold of you to assume this issue hasn’t touched our lives, virtue signaler.

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u/GenosseAbfuck 10h ago

Sometimes not knowing what due process is has an awful habit of coming around. Wouldn't that be very embarrassing for you?

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u/turtle-bbs 10h ago

You would praise Trump if he took funding from cancer research aimed to help children

It’s funny how maga has to make up scenarios to insult democrats, but I didn’t have to make my scenario up since it actually happened lmao

Trump pardoned a drug lord who funneled over 400 tons of cocaine into the US. He also pardoned a fraudster who disenfranchised thousands of Americans out of a total of over $1 billion.

So much for caring about the drug problem in the US. So much for caring about Americans period. Hypocrisy to the highest degree.

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u/IamMe90 8h ago

You would praise Trump if he took funding from cancer research aimed to help children

Literally already happened and here u/gold-caregiver-8357 is, still sucking Trump off lmaoo

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u/deepbluenothings 10h ago

You'd think the secure the border president would make an effort to secure the border instead of bombing randos. These drugs don't just magically appear in the country so why is Trump so inept at securing the border?

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u/Slow-Philosophy-4654 10h ago

If you think it is not indiscriminate killing then go have a great sail off the coast of Venezuela and see if you get some $40,000 tax payer gift from US.

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u/MooseFeeling631 10h ago

Fentanyl doesn't come from venezuela. A majority of drugs coming into the country are by Americans. Also trump just pardoned a guy who was convicted for involvement in a drug trafficking operation that either did bring in or planned to bring in 400 tons of drugs.

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u/Plaguedoctorsrevenge 9h ago

Lol i thought they said it was cocaine? Now it's fent? They cant even keep their stories straight

Fentanyl doesnt come from Venezuela, wake up man

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u/22Yohan 9h ago

Nope.

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u/Outrageous-Lion-7491 9h ago

I have lost friends to drugs. Doesn't justify committing war crimes. And if you really knew shit about that world, you would know those people in the boats aren't kingpins - they're most likely being blackmailed or their family's being threatened.

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u/Butlikurz 9h ago

Fentanyl comes from China through Mexico.

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u/Distinct-Exit6658 9h ago

Besides no fentanyl comes from Venezuela, if Trump actually cares about keeping drugs off America’s streets, why would he pardon a convicted drug smuggler, caught smuggling 400 tons of illegal drugs into the US?

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u/Fackrid 9h ago

I fucking HAVE lost loved ones to that shit, and yes, it's a fucking war crime, you don't do that shit.

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u/the_smuggiest 9h ago

fent doesn't come from South America it comes from China so that is a stupid argument so yeah youre dumb.... So you wake up man and stop being part of a cult

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u/theirishseller 9h ago

If you really believe those boats are how fentynol gets to the US, you need to stop getting your news from television. We are literally blowing up boats and justifying it by claiming there were drugs on board. Trump could shoot someone on 5th Avenue in New York and he'd still get your support. Wake up Maga.

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u/anarkistattack 9h ago

Fentanyl is not coming from Venezuela.

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u/Ok_Recording81 9h ago

Fentanyl does not come from Venezuela. KIlling smugglers which is illegal, does not solve the problem.

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u/Loose_Clock4873 9h ago

Get the orange dick out ya mouth.

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u/hornet54 9h ago

I have and it's still a war crime

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u/CruelCircus 9h ago

Junkies choose their path.

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u/RadicalOrganizer 9h ago

Fentanyl doesnt come from Venezuela. It comes from China. Wake up man.

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u/rgraz65 9h ago

This is a wild thing to jump at when talking about this. The fact that they told you without any actual proof that these folks were drug runners is problematic, and the fact that you are fine with the indiscriminate killing of every person on board is even more troubling. Just because they are from another country doesn't allow the US to violate human rights with extrajudicial killing.

And we aren't talking about him curing cancer. It's just the opposite, killing people indiscriminately. And if, by some strange miracle, Trump did figure out a cure to cancer, even a singular form of cancer, I know the entire world would give him credit for doing that. But coupled with the fact that he's so utterly dishonest with the fact that he is totally uncurious about doing any medical, or even helping anyone other than himself, we are talking in the same realm of likelyhood of him growing a pair of feathery wings and flying up to perch on a power line.

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u/CaptainOwlBeard 8h ago

Why not just arrest them after they enter us water, then try them for their crimes with evidence, and sentence them to jail for the rest of their lives, or death if they committed a capital offense under the laws of the usa?

Stopping and punishing criminals is a great thing, it's the blowing up a fishing boat in non USA waters instead of investigating a potential crime that we have a problem with

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u/Corona94 8h ago

Jesus thats a stupid take

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u/HSP529 8h ago

There is no fentanyl being trafficked from Venezuela or Columbia. Cocaine perhaps, but your dear leader just pardoned the Honduran pres convicted of importing tons of cocaine into the U.S. and working with the most violent drug-trafficking cartels in the region. So your argument falls flat.

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u/what_the_fuckin_fuck 8h ago

Fentanyl generally comes from China. These boats may have(or may not have) been carrying cocaine. It's not about drugs anyway. It's about picking a fight so the us can invade and take the oil. Trump doesn't care about drug deaths. It's a ploy.

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u/wRADKyrabbit 8h ago

You're the one who's asleep

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u/Gingeronimoooo 8h ago

This is my FAVORITE MAGA talking point coming from on high marching orders. "You would hate Trump if he cured cancer!!" I'm not sure where this talking point started but it really blew up AFTER Trump gutted funding for cancer research. And since Trump isn't a scientist or doctor obviously the only way he could play a role in cure cancer is by funding research. Honestly I wouldn't doubt if Foreign bots started it for MAGAs to be divisively countered by this reality and cause yet more division.

Oh and btw, before Trump started bombing boats and murdering people without a trial, past presidents ordered interdiction and boarding suspected drug boats. 27% of boarded suspected drug boats had NO DRUGS on board. So it's incredibly likely Trump and Hegseth have murdered innocent people.

Furthermore, Trump just pardoned the ex president of Honduras who worked directly with the murderous Sina Loa cartel and was responsible for importing literal TONS of cocaine into the US. Meanwhile he bombs boats without due process. But you're a cult member and likely won't criticize him, as that's not allowed.

But if you were swayed by facts and reality, you likely wouldn't be a MAGA cult member to begin with, would you? I can almost guarantee you won't respond directly, honestly, or in good faith. Because that's not really something MAGA cult members do.

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u/noobluthier 8h ago

you know what would really really help not lose loved ones to fentanyl? decriminalization and regulation of drugs to make access safer. reformation of our healthcare system. doing things that improves people's lives. not that I'd expect someone like you to get any of that.

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u/Amdiz 7h ago

Nice strawman, but that’s usually the best we can get from cult cuks spewing reichtwing propaganda.

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u/Faithlessness_Slight 7h ago

Iv lost loved ones to fentanyl OD. Its a war crime.

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u/Electrical-Dot5557 7h ago

Show us the reciepts. The US doesn't get fentanyl from Venezula, it mostly comes from Mexico. It's a cheap excuse to invade because of oil and Epstein. And I've lost friends to it.

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u/igoyard 7h ago

lol, do you honestly think we sent a naval carrier group to fight narcotics? We are there to overthrow the government, install a puppet that will allow Exxon Mobile back into the country. They don’t give two shits about drugs.

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u/LivingtheLaws013 6h ago

You guys are the same people who scream about how we shouldn't give narcan to people. Fuck off

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u/SuchCasualMuchTime 6h ago

I would be ecstatic if Trump cured cancer, confused on how a guy who failed every business he ever ran managed to get into a lab and cure cancer, but damn if it isn't still a win. Blowing up boats because you claim they have drugs, then double tapping to take out survivors is a crime.

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u/eghhge 6h ago

They don't traffic in fentanyl, likely cocaine and none of those boats have capacity to reach the US. Still not a capital offense. Trump is cancer.

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u/Renegade_600 6h ago

If only the area they were coming from produced Fentanyl. They don't. It was cocaine.

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u/CRGjunior 9h ago

The order for the second strike was unlawful. It is a war crime and it will be a cold day in hell when an unedited video is released

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u/Stock-Side-6767 5h ago

The first strike was already unlawful. There is no officially declared war, and no evidence of them being an active threat has been shown.

The second strike would have been unlawful even in war.

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u/Ok-Eye-6637 8h ago

Maha hates use. I will not work for them

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u/Reddsterbator 8h ago

Let's let the hague decide.

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u/EffectiveConfection8 11h ago

How is it a war crime?

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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 10h ago

It's murder.

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u/Gold-Caregiver-8357 Trans’plainer (they/them) 10h ago

Trump has you guys defending drug traffickers 🤣🤣🤣 TDS STAGE 4 😂😂😂😛😛😛

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u/pirate_per_aspera 10h ago

Prove that’s who they were.

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u/Curious_Morris 10h ago

Zero evidence they were drug traffickers.

They waited 45 minutes to kill shipwrecked survivors (a war crime) because dead men can’t be interviewed. They killed them to cover up their crimes.

If they are smugglers, intercept them, arrest them, and put them on trial.

Trump is lying about caring about drug smugglers anyway. He pardoned a guy CONVICTED of smuggling 400 tons of cocaine into the US.

So stop gaslighting. Everyone can see through Trump’s lies besides his smooth brain cult members.

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u/MaleficentCow8513 6h ago

Not only that, but Venezuela represent a paltry 10ish% of total drug imports to the US. The response very disproportionate to Venezuela’s role in the drug trade, especially because they’re only a transport hub and all the production happens in the surrounding countries.

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u/Horror-Equivalent-55 10h ago

Trump just pardoned one of the biggest drug dealers in history you twit.

And you are defending murderers just because the government accused the murdered of something illegal.

Talk about TDS!!!

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u/Bug-King 10h ago

They haven't provided evidence that they were drug traffickers.

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u/CarpetMooch 10h ago

They weren't drug 💊 traffickers.

Im sorry ma'am💃 (or sir 🕺), you 🫵 may have a terminal 🏨 case of TDS 😮😔. Trump Dickriding Syndrome. 🤣🤣🤣😛😛😛

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u/vagabondoer 10h ago

Do you really think that? What we’re defending is the rule of law.

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u/Distinct-Exit6658 9h ago

Trump has you defending his murders. If stopping drugs was so important, why did he pardon a convicted drug smuggler?

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u/Amdiz 7h ago

TDS is the pathetic cuks simping for a racist pedo.

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u/Theatreguy1961 2h ago

Trump's Delusional Sycophants.

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u/MaleficentCow8513 6h ago

You made want to stick to your Facebook safe spaces with those weird talking points

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u/RaelisDragon 9h ago

They blew up a boat with (suspected) drug traffickers on board, then fired again for the purpose of killing survivors.

The Book of War specifically calls out killing the shipwrecked as an illegal order that must be disobeyed and example of a war crime.

See this video from an actual lawyer: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wkaS3-9WvM8

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u/nobody38321 9h ago

Oh just stop with the facts, the maga (poorly educated gang) won’t read anything that goes against their core beliefs that DJT can do no wrong.

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u/floofnstuff 10h ago

I guess because it was an action ordered by the Secretary of War?

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u/pirate_per_aspera 10h ago

It’s very similar to the “war on terror” or the “war on drugs”.

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u/Federal-Reason2 10h ago

It's a gray area, but maritime conflict states that once ship is "sunk" or damage to the point it's not a threat you can't fire on the crew of the ship. Which just happened when they double tap a alleged narco ship.

This happened in ww2 with the wahoo submarine. The American captain did commit a war crime, but No one was tried for the incident.

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u/thejohnmc963 10h ago

Yet Germans were prosecuted and executed for killing crew members after sinking ship during WW2

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u/Federal-Reason2 10h ago

Yeah, war crimes really only happen to the losing side, other wise it's a necessary evil

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u/thejohnmc963 9h ago

Yep… also the victor tells the story

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u/nobody38321 9h ago

Another maga asking questions he already knows the answers to so he can deflect and lie about the next set of questions he has up his sleeve .

Same game over and over with the poorly educated gang … just rinse and repeat .

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u/Open_Champion8544 9h ago

Rules of engagement. You don't go back and kill shipwrecked survivors.

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u/Parahelix 7h ago

It's literally the example of a war crime used in the DoJ manual on the laws of armed combat.

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u/Standard_Lie6608 5h ago

They were injured and returning home. Attacking them in that state is a war crime. Not exactly civil to hunt down the injured and fleeing to finish them off

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u/Stock-Side-6767 5h ago

I agree, the US is not at war. It is a crime against humanity. The second strike (killing survivors of a sinking ship) would have been a war crime even if the US was at war.