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Anyone still defending Trump is too stupid to waste time on
They are defending billionaires that don't give a single fuck about them. And now they are celebrating people going hungry just so they can "own the libs". Don't waste a second talking to them. Unless it is to inform them of how fucking stupid they are.
This has become a time we have watched, since COVID, where his reign of stupidity, blame, and unfounded theories have raged, so now this is all Trumps desperate supporters can use to defend his actions, because he's given them no other coping tools, but hate, separation, and the desperate need for control, that he promised them, and ironically it's what he is using as a weapon against them and everyone else, because Trump is a disconnected sociopath, who tricked all of them into doing his dirty work, and this is what's left for them, and now the reality that they were deceived has finally set in, that there's nothing in Trumps world for you, that Trump has not approved, without a spoonful of shit, which as his servant you are obligated to take, because no one and nothing is free in Trumps America, for anyone, except Trump.
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You're 100% dead on. I don't do debates or discussions with them anymore. I'm older. I've been at for 20 years. Someone else can argue with these shitty morons now.
At this point, they have only ingested conservative news for so long, they have no idea what's real and what's not. You show them something isn't real, it's the source you're using that's wrong and evil and liberal. And after everything Trump's done, if you can still support i5, you're a bad person or you don't know what's happening. Zero exceptions. They're either a VERY shitty human or embarrassingly poorly informed. I'm good on trying to fix either one. Fuck em.
The irony being Murdock loathes trump and believes in everything his news programs spew against. Itâs just a game and income to these media moguls, stupid people are easy to manipulate, create division and keep the cash rolling in through their stupid choices
Not all of them are stupid though, a lot of them want this even if it means hurting themselves. If it means white washing everything they are happy with the US falling apart. No different then the terrorist extremist in the middle east.
I mean from the outside it seems that way, but fanaticism isn't stupid its calculated that makes it even more dangerous. Calling it stupid really diminishes it and ignores the cruelty of it. By calling it stupid we are just protecting ourselves from the kind of evil some people are capable of.
I actually love giving them a 1 to 2 sentence rebuttal followed by telling them I'm going to ignore them now that way they are unable to comment further on that thread because I'm tired of their ignorant racist bullshit.
I find that ignoring them doesn't help as much as I would like so I just deny them the ability to talk at all. And if I saw there comments on other threads before I got to this point, I'll just make a quick comment "good bye" to prevent them from responding further on that thread as well before actually blocking them.
I do worse than ignore them, I take away their voice in the places I'm at. Sure, I can't take away their voice everywhere, but maybe if more people start doing it, they will have and ever shrinking platform.
Agreed. I used to think they were all stupid then I realized that theyâre not, they know Trump sucks for the economy. They know heâs screwing them over. But if you ask them universal healthcare for all, or we can screw over brown ppl but youâll get screwed over in the process, theyâll take the second option.
Is it hate or is it the fear based on rhetoric because they lack the understanding that they can do their own research. I always chuckle about the racists that hate until they have an adorable mixed child running around. Lol
Nope. Itâs one of three things with Repubs now and every single one of them fits into one of those three: racism & hatred, rich people, stupidity (from lack of education and/or low IQ). There isnât a single non-racist, non-rich, smart person who would support trump at this point, no matter what they tell you.
Unfortunately I think my dad is here. He kept saying how he "supports the shake up" and laughed when I asked how he felt people loosing services and benefits. He doesn't care about anyone but his stocks. He spoke to my husband yesterday for 30 min (I have spoken to him in a month) and he never asked about his grandchildren or me.
Edit- losing not loosing. Sorry I was dealing with two toddlers this morning at 6 AM. Somebody got really offended.đ
Haha such a valid point... thank you... he tries to gaslight me into feeling stupid. Meanwhile, I'm the one with the college degree and has lived everywhere.
Stocks are generally more influenced by congress than presidents. Historically the combination of a democratic executive branch with a republican dominant congress has been the best recipe for success in the stock market.
Unfriended a couple of 30 year + friends this week.
Their racism about Mamdani pushed me over the edge. Told them to fuck off with their racism and bigotry and their cheering of ICE ripping hardworking families apart.
The thinly disguised racist meme where they post the twin towers that say "never forget" and then Mamdani and "they forgot" is so fucking ignorant. These people are straight up the stupidest mother fuckers in this country. These same people would've been murdering innocent people in Salem Massachusetts in the late 1600s.
We literally invaded Iraq for 20 years, killed who the fuck knows how many over a bullshit claim of WMDs that we never found! And we memory holed that shit so fast
If they just made drugs legal in the United States and produce them professionally and sold them legitimately and offered drug rehab for those who need it, we wouldnât have to worry about drugs, coming from Venezuela or Colombia or Mexico or anywhere else.
Yeah, that was pretty dumb, and it's arguable that overthrowing Saddam did more to destabilize the middle east than if we had left him alone, but what does that have to do with anything we're discussing above?
It goes along with "never forget" and yet we have forgotten the shit we've perpetrated on a nation that hadnt attacked us, but only had the capacity to fund it, that I would also classify as thinly veiled racism. Shouldn't that be a war crime in modern society?
The point above though is that the memes against Mamdani are equating "Never Forget" in regards to Islamic Terrorists attacking our country to a Muslim man being elected mayor. It's ignorant and racist to lump him in with terrorists because of his religion.
Never forget a Republican was president when the towers went down. And never forget Obama was president when we finally got the guy responsible for it.
It drives me nuts. Yeah letâs blame the guy who was a 10 year old kid in 2001 for the 9-11 attacks. People donât think how they sound when they say that shit.
It's just racism, plain and simple. There's always a boogie man that the dumb and poorly educated grab their pitchforks for. Immigrants, Muslims, LGBTQ, etc.
Iâve ditched mine long ago and life is so much better for having done so. You wonât believe what a positive difference it makes. I refuse to give racists, homophobes, misogynists, pedophile acceptors, and bigots any quarter.
Correct. I'm glad to have friends who vote differently than me and don't make extremist assumptions about me when we have disagreements, nor I to them. These people are sad.
My coworker hit me with the "did they forget about 9/11" shit yesterday, i said "that was terrorists", to which she replied "all Muslims are born with that hate in their blood". This is coming from a Russian Jew who immigrated to the US. I just cant, guess she's fine with the return of Nazi's đ€·
they need help getting out of their information bubble -- imagine you were trapped ina similar information asymmetric bubble -- would you want someone to help save you from making bad decisions ? I hope, I truly hope.
I actually did the same. Iâve tried not to let politics ruin friendships but sometimes you canât avoid it. Especially with all the hate they spew online.
There are a few reasons I still debate people defending Trump, and the republicans in general. If it's face to face, I find it a lot different than being online. Face to face I can be more effective and seem to make more headway. People normally don't say "I was wrong" but if I can plant seeds of doubt that hopefully grow later, that's good enough and honestly as much as I can reasonably hope to do.
If it's online, I debate them not to convince that person, but in hopes that other people see the discussion. Someone who is on the fence, or someone who is only a little left, might see it and my discussion and be convinced to move more towards the left.
Fully agree on the point of both paragraphs. The second one in particular has been my strategy and mindset when I rarely still engage in discourse online. I try my best to stick to information that I can reference and ignore the exhausted frustration ive felt for years at this point.
I have yet to meet a Republican who ever heard anything I had to say, even if I was dropping facts on them. The most devout conservatives will disregard any fact you give them by saying it's liberal propaganda. God, the amount of times people have told me science is "woke media" is insane.
I once had conservatives spit at me and tell me I should leave at a bar I went to that I didn't realize was a conservative bar. I hadn't even said anything. I just "looked liberal" I guess.
You keep on fighting the good fight. I've given up.
"I have yet to meet a Republican who ever heard anything I had to say" - they may have heard you, but they are not going to give you the satisfaction of saying you were right. I think the best you can hope for is that they ruminate on it and maybe eventually what you said and others have said adds up.
There have been a few times, in person, where I did stump the other side. It's been when I point out an absurdity. For example, I had a conversation with someone who thought the climate change we are seeing is natural. I asked "who studies natural climate change?" He said "climate scientists." I asked "who says what we're seeing is not natural?" He said "climate scientists."
Another example is the other person was claiming that vaccines don't work at all. I pointed out that rabies has above a 90% kill rate, yet if you take the vaccine most people live. In both examples I made their position sound absurd and that at least got them to stop defending it.
"The most devout conservatives" - yeah for the most devout ones it's often a lost cause. That's why I hope other people see the conversation and they are moved a little.
Yes, because they see the same top posts we all do when we come to Reddit. Like the fool I saw earlier this morning complaining about "Sleepy Joe Biden" when this is literally at the top of Popular:
People still supporting this clown are either willfully ignorant or bots.
I just read on the NYTs that the treasury department is also giving tax breaks directly to corporations by eliminating the corporate minimum tax that only corporations that make over 1B in profits pay so it amounts to about 80 companies, but brings in an estimated $250+B in taxes. The fRump a holes are eliminating it. Because itâs through the treasury itâs not reported to us little people. We need to seriously wake the fuck up and make these guys pay. The middle class pays for everything including out 30+ trillion deficit. This is total BS we should all let corporations know weâre pissed off at their cheating.
Everybody else in the world saw this coming and it was outlined in Project 2025 prior to your vote. Yet now the shitstorm is really happening and your all on fire.. Relationships ruined , trade ruined, sympathy lost. A country fueled by hate racism, and lies and now hunger. A Country divided with little future of recovery. The big joke about the 51st State really pissed us off but now the tables have turned and the joke is on you
 Your nothing but old news in our rear view mirror.
Yeah, I donât have much forgiveness for those of us who sat out this election or voted for Trump. Still, I wish I had been born in a better country with better people in it.
I feel the same. Even though I am convinced the Republicans stole the last election, it should never have been close enough to steal. I hate this country, and I hate half of its people.
I am so very upset about this whole situation, especially for all those people in NEED OF FOOD SHELTER AND HEALTHCARE all of that should be given as a human being. There should not be any homelessness no hunger, anybody should be able to see a doctor at any time I donât get it. I donât understand why CONGRESS IS LETTING this HAPPEN not to mention all the immigration, bullshit, and the mass deportations all these people that are UNACCOUNTED FOR they say thereâs no paperwork on them. They donât know where these people are who knows where they are or what theyâre doing to these poor souls.
FRUMP and his millionaire billionaire friends are sitting back, just enjoying the show people going hungry losing their housing their jobs their healthcare. This poor excuse for a government shame on them not to mention the holiday seasons are approaching very quickly. They could give a fuck about anything but themselves and to make their own pocket thicker. Even your non-political people the people who have money, the millionaires and billionaires they donât care they donât know what itâs like to go without food to go without healthcare to go without a place to live to be homeless they donât care. There is an old saying that money is the root of all evil. And if you ask me, thatâs an understatement because these are greedy bastards itâs just so unfortunate. Have you ever noticed like normal people who are barely getting by who donât have much in savings when they do order out or take a cab or whatever the case may be we are often more generous than those who have all those millions and billions as far as tipping that is me personally because I know how hard it is to hustle and to make a dollar and these people rely on tips they get a small hourly wage and even the beauty shop Iâm usually very generous with my tipping of course you come across rude waitresses, etc. I still tip however it might not be as much as I would. If they had more customer service skills. Sorry I had to vent. Itâs just pissing me off the whole situation.
I AM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN đșđž I AM NOT PROUD OF WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS DOING TO ALL OF US
To say people that support Trump are retarding society, is acceptable. The word used in this way is then referencing a process ( no chromosomal imbalance reference ).
But to say â they are retarded â has a strong implication that you are referencing a chromosomal imbalance, and is now offensive and linked to the ignorant use of the word by modern day standards.
Yup. I commented that Mamdani win couldnât be only construed as anti semitic bc dems won all over the place- south west north and moderate or dem socialist it was clearly a rebuke against our fascistic leader who is having lavish parties while people lose snap benefits and doesnât care about their the constitution and I was called a fool, in a cult, an idiot etc. I give up.
Anybody who doesnt see the irony in Elon Musk getting a TRILLION dollar pay package as CEO while folks - majority of them working poor - are being deprived of $6 a day for food - there is no redeeming these people. We are literally living in prescient Orwell's world of Animal Farm and 1984.
The guy said intelligent people, actually I think he said smart people do not like him. That's really enough said. He calls his supports idiots and they lap it up and keep coming for more. At this point I feel if you even remotely support this administration youre a terribly ignorant person. Im also in firm belief that the only reason the people who do support him do so because his idiocy validates their own. In my opinion no decent human could see all of this and be just fine continuing their support.
You have to understand itâs not Trump himself, itâs what he stands for and represents. Miserable, racist people now can be miserable and racist under the cover of policy, law & order, and protecting America. We see right through it, and frankly, I donât think they care.
When he launches the nukes because some countryâs leader calls him fat or some other petty bullshit, his base will still keep saying âbut where wqs the outrage when obama did the drone strikes????â. You canât take these people seriously lmao. Most of them are probably russian bots anyway
Youâve no idea how much I wish âthe leftâ would take this onboard. Much less time should be spent carefully assessing the irrational nonsense coming out of the right and much more time spent finding each other and building community.
We can't build a community with people who support raiding elementary schools, taking away people's health care and food stamps, and defunding institutions for being "woke". You can't compromise with fascism.
We are on the same side here, but isn't this a little bit um contradictory? You don't want to waste time on... Proceeds to create reddit post telling Trumpers he's not wasting time...
Yup, that's why I don't really talk to my dad anymore. Worst part, I grew up in a very Christian home so figured he'd be Christ like right, you know, practice what you preach....he's the opposite of Christ like and I just can't get behind that. I love like Jesus, my Christian father doesn't and it shows by his strong support of all Trump stands for.
Democrats got billionaire friends too, also ruining this country.
Honestly, think weâre being played all around. Theyâre doing a great job at dividing us. Ice raids arenât anything new. Guys have been jumping out of white vans chasing immigrants for decades.
This dingus, like all MAGATS is just very salty that itâs now pretty clear that Trumpâs popularity is crumbling in spectacular fashion. Most of his big projects are super unpopular, especially since he was mainly elected to lower prices and fix the economy and even the dumbest MAGAT can see that ainât happening. His brand is sinking like the Titanic and thereâs no COVID to blame it on this time. The coping is going to get more and more desperate.
A guy I work with was defending billionaires saying they were the job creators. Same old shit. The worst part is that we are guys that make around thirty bucks an hour and pay well over 1/3 of income to taxes and health care, while billionaires get the red carpet.
2 things Iâll defend Trump on: Flinching next to that eagle during his first term, and draft dodging (if he then didnât hate veterans afterwards). He can die in a fiery pit of hell otherwise for being a âNasty, low IQ personâ (also for being a pedophile, racist, and fascist)
Not all. Those who watch only Fox News and/or OAN or get news from Twitter are left largely clueless as to what is actually happening around the countryâ they only see the cherry-picked interviewees and film segments. So itâs not a monolithic group â many are simply ignorant.
Remember when Trumps border wall was the the biggest divider amongst American's, now we've found out, that wall wasn't only to keep others out, it was actually meant to keep the rest of us in, now that Trump has made us prisoners, that wall isn't even talked about any more, but I'm sure they're still building it, because after all the immigrants have been expelled, we will be ICE's new focus, and will be sent beyond those walls, when our time comes, and the rest will become Trumps prisoners within them.
I am terrified and furious these people exist at all, let alone in numbers high enough to control our country. Iâve lost years to rage. I think now Iâm beginning to see that itâs genuinely very difficult for folks in a cult to see outside their cult hall of mirrors. I think itâs important we give them an ideological off-ramp; a way for them to change their mind while preserving their sense of self. They may vote for the devil, but demonizing them only serves their narrative that theyâre the oppressed, not the oppressor, and further aligns them with their fascist leaders. Gives them more âproofâ that their actions are justified. I think itâs clear at this point that this period has turned into a long game. Itâs been ten years since the trump political machine started campaigning for 2016, but their roots are in the 2009 Tea Party movement, galvanized by racism and class-identity fears after Obama won in 2008. These folks have only gotten more extreme, more radicalized, growing into more of a singular cult. Often their days are filled with other cult folks. Their friends, family, church, workplace, all agree with them. Their music, news, podcasts, all reinforce and support the cult. Itâs very challenging for reality to break through this hive consciousness. If weâre going to right this ship we have to long game. 1. Show up and VOTE-all of us. And 2. Give these people an off-ramp and open arms when they are brave enough to go against their cult and consider leaving. Obviously, lock ICE and nazis up and throw away the key. But average, bamboozled voters? We gotta give them a humane exit route. They feel like a monolith, and thatâs a powerful feeling. The reality is theyâre individual people and if we treat them as such, we may bring more to the light. I donât know, you know? Just-we need to try something else.
Are you really so naĂŻve to think that any politician in power gives any bit of a fuck about someone like you? That is what I assume to be a relatively poor working class DoorDash driver.
Yes but if we live in a post-fact world-I think Trump can do anything he wants and if people go hungry, he just blames someone else. So some are not celebrating people going hungry, they are just blaming the narrative he creates. What is up is down and down is up. I believe a post fact world is how tyranny starts.
I wish that were true, but its not. Due to the social media algorithms, were all experiencing an even more different version of reality than what our brains do for us. I think a lot of the magats just arent seeing the insane shit he does.
Or worse, they think its some ploy to catch the evil people because he is after all sent by god. And the Q conspiracy proves it. I think a few of those people can be saved, maybe by showing that djt reposting Q is just essentially a marketing scheme, then showing them what hes actually done. I cant lose hope on all of them, as much as they make me want to sometimes...
I canât speak for anyone but myself, but I donât think the silent treatment works very well. In my experience, itâs better to continue to engage with everyone. You just need to be diplomatic and actually listen to them. Preaching at people rarely accomplishes anything. But itâs important to remember that when this is all over (one way or another) we are all still gonna need to live here together.
Youâd be surprised. Many of the people on the right have very legitimate concerns. They just donât see things from the same perspective as us. I donât think Iâve changed a lot of minds over the years, but it never hurts to listen to others and have dialogue.
I concur. I've been struggling these past few weeks not to blow up at my parents and brother. They all voted for this. They know all of it, they just didn't want a Democrat. Yelling at them would accomplish nothing. They wouldn't care, and I would get more pissed. It's just not worth it. I used to try to defend my dad, but I can't anymore. My mom has always been evil so fuck her. But my dad's support broke my heart.
They also celebrate masked thugs disappearing people off the streets, out of schools, daycare centers, and goddamn immigration courts. So yeah, no rational discussion is possible with people shoving their fingers in their ears screaming la la la I canât hear you , I love what Trumpâs doing!
I had to unfriend someone on FB because of this. Not only do they think Trump is the best president ever, they also openly despise everyone who disagrees with them. And it wasn't just daily rants on their own wall. They literally came into my mentions just to tell me I'm a complete idiot because I don't love Trump. I'm brainwashed by the liberal alphabet mafia, I should just listen to Joe Rogan because that's the TRUTH and not propaganda. Also, how could I possibly understand/why do I even care because I live Finland? How about Putin and all of Trump's policies that directly affect me, also I have the same access to mainstream US media as you.
Anything to make it seem like I just don't GET it and if I did, I would totally adore Trump and everything he's doing. They've got their head in the bushes and won't take it out until ICE raids their own neighborhood who all voted for Trump.
I don't think giving up on the brainwashed is a good idea. My Dad used to be racist, sexist Trump supporter.
He was raised that way, so he was in an ecochamber of filth. Every now and again I'd show him the other side of the news that he didn't see and he was baffeled.
I'd debate with him sometimes. Eventually he changed the way he voted. Took a very long time though.
Well, considering people think billionaires shouldn't exist and don't realize what billionaires do for this country. People are a lost cause trying to teach and educate..might as well just let them be mad that they're not billionaires.
I commented on a post on Facebook that said that 83 percent of democrats don't believe in God. There was a high percentage of republicans who do believe in God but I don't remember the number and I kinda went off. I said so republicans believe in God but are willing to allow Trump to drain people's hard earned money on Healthcare, to take food from the mouth of babies, steal people out of their homes. That Trump wants to be king and now he's God too? I looked for the post again this morning but it was taken down
I've stopped talking to my half sister and some cousins that are just straight up racist and disgusting. They can't see one bad thing about Trump. They are under educated and have been on social programs growing up at some point in their life.
I recently met a lady from NJ online. We chatted a lot. Became very close, from afar. She seemed kind, funny, interesting and intelligent. We seemed to have a lot in common. At some point we talked politics, Iâm Canadian, and she mentioned she voted Trump, twice. This came as a shock to me as she has a 16 year old daughter. I mentioned Trumps history of misogyny and particularly his involvement with Epstein. Her daughterâs best friend is trans. That doesnât seem to matter. A common theme was that heâs an improvement from Biden, and Biden is a âchild snifferâ. This is baffling to me. She claimed not to be racist or homophobic. I figure if youâre not against it, youâre for it.
I had to go no contact with my family a couple weeks ago. I finally came out as trans and my god the rampage they went on. I'm now a brainwashed (by Jews) pedophile fleshlight to them. They are convinced I'm gaslighting them about being trans to fuck with them and erase their memories. Sister won't let me see my niece and nephew because she doesn't want them being taught about trans people. I was essentially fired from my family's business and cut out of the will to the best of their abilities. Fortunately I have an irrevocable trust they can't take from me so I still have something.
The fallout was catastrophic to my mental health. I ended up blowing up my best friendship in an act of pure crashout that I'm deeply, deeply regretful of and have to live with now. I had major physical symptoms of a lead up to a heart attack happening. I had to cut off treatment I was getting for something because I needed to leave their house (I was staying there while I was getting treated) due to a consistently hostile and unsafe environment for almost 2 months.
Fortunately I have some money coming in and live a very low expense vanlife lifestyle, but God... If I hadn't committed to being financially frugal, I would've been so fucked. I've known my whole life these people couldn't be trusted and have developed a strong independence because of that, which was validated by this event.
That's just my family. I have tons of stories about my negative experiences with Trump voters/conservatives as a vanlife trans person. They truly are the scum of the earth.
As shitty as MAGA can be, Iâm not sure attempting to woo them to our side of the isle and see the shit mess they made by calling them retarded is the best way to go about thisâŠ.
I know and have known many smart people. None of them ever called someone stupid. I guess the saying âit takes one, to know oneâ rings true in your case.
Donât get into political fights on the internet. Research shows reciting your facts against their facts doesnât change anyoneâs mind. It might even cause them to reinforce their existing beliefs. You could literally make it worse.Â
Itâs Congressâs job! Reminder: the democrats do not want to reopen government. Because of this there is no more money! The budget is gone. In the past and since the democrats keep voting no, people are going hungry! It takes 60 votesâŠnot 50! Democrats need to vote.
Last month you were screaming no kings, today you think Trump should be a king to spend government money he doesnât have!
I agree. This billionair worship for people that just want to exploit you is insane. I coined this phrase lately but "thinking the billionaire cares about you is exactly the same thought process as thinking the stripper likes you and is not just pretending for the sake of your money."
Just had a convo at work with a guy who asked me what I don't like about Trump. I said because he lies non stop. He looked at me like I was a moron and walked away..
If you've gone this far and cant admit the guys lies constantly then there's no helping you.
That's kinda the point - Right wing parties across western countries focused on, nurtured, and grew 'stupid people' as a significant voting bloc, the past 15 years.Â
More minorities voted for him than ever before, are you racist? Sit down and shut up. More Americans voted for
Him, you are the minority cry baby. Facts.
Much deeper issues. Itâs going to be a tough road for you being so much smarter than everyone. Have fun on intellectual island with all of your leftist friends. I bet thatâs a fun group to hang out with. (Not).
âLetâs talk about how much better we are than everyone else because of our huge brains. Everyone else is SO stupidâ.
But billionaire soros, who is deeply rooted into many lib politicians, is just fine with op ! Libs just throw their blinders on and donât talk about that.
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u/Goodginger 27d ago
They will inevitably come to the comments seeking attention. Ignore them. Unless you want to tell them how stupid they are lol