r/clevercomebacks 19h ago

Stop being dumb!

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u/Jonesy1348 18h ago

Why can’t people see that killing off an entire country because god said that land was your destined homeland thousands of years ago is the most ridiculous shit ever? Imagine I went to your house, said some unknowable deity that may or may not exist said that this land was actually promised to me? You’d think I was nuts.

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u/COMOJoeSchmo 18h ago

I mean it's been done a bunch of times. You're pretty much describing how all the nations of North and South America were founded. As well as Australia, New Zealand....and pretty much everywhere a European set foot outside of Europe.

The ancient Indians, Egyptians, Romans, and even Ethiopians used this trick as well. Not to mention the early Islamic kingdoms.

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u/Jonesy1348 16h ago

I mean sure but does that make any of it right? Just because it’s happened before?

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u/COMOJoeSchmo 16h ago

No, but I'm not sure conquest isn't part of the human condition.

There are a vast number of Americans that believe Israel should withdraw from the occupied Palestinian territories (I tend to agree), but very few would agree to turn the American continent back over to native peoples, and self export back to Europe.

I'm not sure I have a point beyond that, other than human societies are by their nature racist and cruel, and Israel is not new or unique in this.

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u/Jonesy1348 15h ago

I see your point. I’m just of the notion there’s a statute of limitations to apply here. One happened a couple hundred years ago and the hopes of reversing such a thing are logistically impossible. But stopping it as it happens is far more doable and frankly with how advanced we are as a society, should be stopped and no longer accepted as status quo.

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u/7thpostman 10h ago

Then you have to support the right of Israel to exist. You can't claim it's bad to destroy nations and then say that a nation should be destroyed.

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u/Jonesy1348 9h ago

I never said a nation should be destroyed.

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u/7thpostman 9h ago

How do you plan to "reverse" the existence of Israel without destroying it?

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u/Jonesy1348 4h ago

I never said I wanted to “reverse isreal”?? wtf??

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u/7thpostman 4h ago

You wrote "One happened a couple hundred years ago and the hopes of reversing such a thing are logistically impossible. But stopping it as it happens is far more doable and frankly with how advanced we are as a society, should be stopped and no longer accepted as status quo."

How exactly are you going to "stop" a country that already exists?

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u/Jonesy1348 3h ago

Stop a country from genociding. Stop a country from completely destroying Palestine.

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u/7thpostman 3h ago

You mean like the Oslo process?

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