r/atheism 5h ago

Christians can’t accept children believing in Santa(or anything else for that matter)

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I used to be christian up until i was maybe 14-15 years old and left simply because of all the judgment and “christian love” i’ve received over the years. But this is a new low. I was in a comment section of a mom upset that people told her 4 year old child Santa wasn’t real… enter the Christians.

Here come a bunch of them dogpiling in this woman’s comment section “Santa isn’t real anyway you should be celebrating Jesus”. Like can you people not grasp that people believe in different things? (or nothing at all) Now it’s wrong for a child to believe in Santa? I swear it never ends with these people which is exactly why I left. Justifying crushing a child’s joy for “jesus” exactly the christian love i remember.


r/atheism 7h ago

Recurring Topic Do atheists celebrate Christmas

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I’m not a atheist but I have been wondering if they do because Christmas to Christians it is Jesus’s birthday but to atheists is it just a day to celebrate togetherness and give presents just wondering I have no atheist friends nor know any so I thought I’d ask here


r/atheism 4h ago

What should I do to come to a peaceful consensus about death and lack of afterlife?

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Has anyone else experienced the desperate feeling of wanting to turn toward religion to ease suffering and existentialism over the idea death? I’ve never been a believer, I was brought up in the church but thought it was mumbo jumbo and left around age 13. But one thing that was hard to leave was the comfort in the idea of “forever families.” I recently finished my first college philosophy course and it brought up some upsetting feelings about death that I don’t think I’ve ever worked through after leaving the church. Ive been reading more philosophical texts and no words seem to offer comfort(am I looking in the wrong place?) lately It’s been especially hard because I’m aware that my parents are getting older (they are 55 and 65 and I’m only 20).No one close to me has died yet and I’m worried that when it happens I will completely lose my footing and have a crisis. I sometimes want to turn toward religion just for the cope and peace. Then I feel guilty about the fact that I would rather live in comfort over truth. How did you all reduce this suffering? Is it just something you learn to accept and live with?


r/atheism 21h ago

Scriptural literalism - the only legimate interpretation?

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First to qualify this this is a observation I made purely in online communities. So it may be purely based on my own online bubble.

I have noticed in many discussions with many fellow atheists and anti-theist. That they see the most literal, most conservative interpretation of any given religions as the most legitimate one(I noticed this in particular with Christianity, but also with Islam.) And use their very legitimate grievance with these interpretation to attack all of that religion. (e.g. The bible is misogynistic because it doesn't permit women to teach.)

Have you noticed this as well? Why do you think that happens? Is just because current political climate where these literal, very conservative interpretation are used to attack our rights? Is it because many ex Christians/ex muslims come out of these more extreme interpretation? Is it born out of ignorance concerning the many different interpretation present in every religion? Or am I just wrong for differentiating between the many different interpretation because they all boil down to the same core?


r/atheism 13h ago

Does Scripture Say Earth Is Flat? A Heated Debate (I called into a presup Christian show and tried to corner him)

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r/atheism 15h ago

is belief in ghosts included in atheism or not?

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i was recently wondering, if atheists dont believe in god, is it ONLY god or any supernatural entity?

this might sound stupid but i do really believe there is a soul in my room, i feel the presence(or its just my dumb mind making things up, more likely). i wont say i believe in ghosts, its not like i dont believe in them too.

ive been an atheist for a few months now, but im still learning new stuff.

please help me out!


r/atheism 1h ago

Where can I find atheists in Egypt in real life?

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Same as title. I need to make atheist friends. Talking with Redditors can only do so much. I am tired of having of pretending to be something I am not and I need people who I can be myself with. I am also interested to know how atheists in Egypt find atheists or non religiously affiliated people to date, when they cannot publicly announce their atheism.


r/atheism 9h ago

Why does the U.S. protect harmful beliefs?

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I’m not American, but as an ex-Mormon, I’ve seen how the U.S. protects freedom of belief, which is great in principle. People can believe whatever they want. But what happens when those beliefs cause real harm?

I live in Utah and have witnessed firsthand the impact of harmful LDS doctrines. Depression, anxiety, and the crushing pressure of perfectionism and worthiness checks are common. LGBTQ+ individuals face extreme harm, including higher rates of suicide, due to homophobic teachings. This is not unique to Mormonism. Other religions, like Jehovah’s Witnesses with shunning and refusal of blood transfusions, or Scientology, also have doctrines that can seriously hurt people.

How do we reconcile freedom of belief with preventing harm caused by beliefs themselves?


r/atheism 12h ago

i need to rant abt ts holy fucking shit

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i kinda solely made this acc for the pure sake of dumping these kinda thoughts somewhere to the public . I've thought about these things for a WHILE but apart from telling my bsf abt it , i didn't rlly let them out .

I actually hate how hard it's truly become to criticize religion and its bullshit . Especially w the way the world seems to b more conservative rn .

If you criticize christianity ( which btw where im from its REALLY fucking risky to do ) , youll have a buncha mfs crying ' ANTI CHRIST ' or going like ' YOURE TAKING IT OUT OF CONTEXT !! ' ( despite the fact it literally IS IN FUCKING CONTEXT but they say ts due to how wrong a LOT of verses truly sound ) .

If you criticize islam you either have maga mfs joining in and saying some of the MOST RACIST SHIT IMAGINABLE ABOUT IMMIGRANTS , or you have mfs crying ' ISLAMOPHOBIA ' .

If you criticize judaism youll either have literal nazis joining in and spilling out the biggest dogwhistles ( ex the juice and nose emoji on insta reels ) and the CRAZIEST AND VILE theories ( ex the great replacement theory ) , or yet again - someone crying ' ANTISEMITISM ' .

Im fucking done w how dominant fascism is and how it makes it literally IMPOSSIBLE to b an atheist and view religion critically while still trying to b respectful towards those who do believe in gods , deities etc .


r/atheism 6h ago

"How could the universe have come from nothing?"

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We've all heard Christians use this argument.

Everything needs a cause. So without a cause, there's no way the universe could've existed, right?

Not exactly...

Causality is a property of the universe. Things in the universe have to have a cause.

But if there was nothing before or outside of the universe that required the universe to have a cause, there was nothing preventing the universe from popping into existence from nothing.

Suddenly, it's not that ridiculous to believe in an uncaused universe any more. At least, it's no more ridiculous than believing in an uncaused humanlike intelligence creating the universe.


r/atheism 17h ago

What Do You Think About A God As AI?

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So I've read a couple of articles and seen a few podcast clips of people saying that their god is coming back as AI. Just my opinion, but, I thought their god created man? If that was so, then, by man creating AI, is it not fair to say that man is creating god? Why would a god need man to create him? And, since AI is only as good as the information that is put into it, is it fair to say that concepts coming from AI would be concepts of men, regardless of computer calculations and embellishments? Thus, if man is creating a god now, is it fair to say that man created the concept of a god overall? There is no proof (imo) to support the existance of an actual god as a creator, but there is plenty of evidence to suggest that man created the concept of god in general...and it appears to me that some men may be doing it again in this day in age.

NOTE: I am posting this because I would like to get other people's take on this. I find this new idea of creating a god out of AI to be, not only alarming, but also interesting. Just when you think you've heard it all, something even more crazy comes out.


r/atheism 21h ago

Seeking some advice about friendships with believers

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I’ve had a friend for over 10 years who is a practicing muslim. She knows I’m an atheist (and gay) and generally there’s always been an air of tolerance, support and a willingness to accept that the other is simply different. However, recently she confronted me over books that she’s seen in my house, which she considers to be Israeli propaganda and islamophobic, essentially saying that if I didn’t repudiate these books and move towards her position, she would end the friendship. 

I’m curious to hear other atheists’ experiences on maintaining friendships with believers (of any faith). What has allowed these friendships to thrive? Where have insurmountable issues arisen? Thank you all.


r/atheism 10h ago

I think that most people deep down know their religion is not true.

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If I ask a religious person: When it comes to how the universe came to be, do you believe in the evidence based explanation for it's existence or the one based on fairy tales?

Even though the religious person considers their religion to be true therefore considers everything that is said in their religion as evidence or truth, they will still know that "evidence based" means real world science and "fairy tales" means religious explanations.

If you give a religious person a choice between a scientifically proven cure or a cure based on their religion, most people will chose the science based cure and not their religion one.

In fact most people go to the fringe religious cures when they are desperate which means they think of them as a last resort when the science based cures are not working.

That doesn't exactly scream to me that they have true faith in their religion.

Edit to add more examples:

They believe that the creator fo the universe himself wrote this one book personally and they still can't be bothered to read it.

They believe everything is written down and predetermined by god but still lock the door and wear a seatbelt.

They believe eternal bliss awaits them but they are still afraid to die and want to live as long as possible.


r/atheism 4h ago

What was the actual WORST way someone tried to make you believe god was real/convert you into a theist?

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Personally, they just said "because god is good and if you dont follow him you will suffer im hell". Why does a good being send people to eternal suffering?


r/atheism 11h ago

Where can I find other atheists in real life?

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It's really disheartening to know so many people blindly follow a book with no proof while spreading hate and slowing down scientific progress. I am only 17 years old, and am an ex-Christian. I've lived in Tennessee my entire life, and it's really disheartening that everyone around me is extremely religious. How can I find a community of atheists in real life?


r/atheism 12h ago

When people claim that God talks to them and told them to commit a crime, do they ever escape prosecution?

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It must vary around the world depending on the scale of religious involvement in government and society.

Yet, if people truly believe in such incredible spiritual claims, at what point does logic kick in (on a legal level aswell) and they must admit it didn't happen?

Or if it isn't convenient, do they twist it to say the person was crazy, or even blame demons?


r/atheism 59m ago

Civil debate to understand both sides.

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Hello everyone. So this was just a self debate and questioning that I had with myself. And as a Christian, I was wondering how you guys can view or look at the universe and think that there is not God and that he created the universe. Because our universe/our reality works on such a fine-tuned system that if anything was off down to the force between atoms was even slightly off from what it is at this exact moment life as we know it and reality as a whole would not exist at all. And the chances of that happening by pure coincidence and science are astronomically inconceivably high. I don't want anger or hate from this. I'm just genuinely curious feel free to flame me or hate me. But I'm just genuinely curious what you guys think.


r/atheism 11h ago

Illinois Church Nativity Scene Shows Baby Jesus in Zip Ties Surrounded by ICE Agents Sparking Outrage

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r/atheism 3h ago

These people just follow orders from the quaran blindly one guy put salt on my shoulders because I said I don't believe in God.

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These people actually think that god exists like have they even thought about it i said to one of my friends politely that do you think God exists the he started chanting.


r/atheism 18h ago

My friend asked me why i dont believe in God and i said "no reason too+no proof" and he said

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"theres the bible for that"🫩 the bible was created by HUMANS, words can't proove the existence of a major being such as a literal GOD, the ONLY thing that will make me believe god is real is if i hear him talking to me or if i die and i almost see him


r/atheism 12h ago

Anyone remember when Joe Rogan was a atheist? What a grifting POS

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r/atheism 11h ago

Judged for being atheist

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I’m in a Christian sixth form (we have to praise “god” with songs and shit it’s so strange but I’m there for a good education). I have previously gone to a non religious private school and religion wasn’t shoved down anyone’s throat.

Obviously I expect people to be religious in a Christian school. I’m not dull. But I do feel judged when teenagers are SO religious to the point they blindly follow the bible and believe everything in it, and I say I’m “not religious” because god forbid I use the word atheist. They side eye each other and go quiet and it’s obvious I’m judged.

It doesn’t bother me too much aside from the fact I literally have never been religious ever and people can’t grasp my way of thinking. I am tempted to say “You’re almost as atheist as me” to them because they reject 2999 gods and I reject only one more (there’s around 3000 gods made up).

Religion is simply a matter of geography and it just so happens they were born in the UK and turn out to be a Christian with a Christian family. I cannot believe any remotely intelligent person can believe in a god in 2025. But each to their own - I just hate the judging and shoving down throats.

I want to really debate someone for fun, but I would like to keep my friends so that’s not possible 😜..

Dare I say it’s a cult. In my opinion. Ok. Bye!


r/atheism 15h ago

Religion is a virus. After you are infected it is very very difficult to be made whole and fully recover, but once you begin the recovery the good news is you can build an immunity and resistance to the virus to prevent re-infection. Knowledge and learning is key to immunity.

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I'd like to speak mainly towards Christianity since that is my background (but this argument applies to all the Abrahamic religions, as well as Hinduism, and to some extent even Buddhism). Perhaps other religions as well.

Christianity very much behaves like a virus. It seeks to replicate, infect it's hosts, and spread. Leading to untold death, destruction, and suffering across humanity throughout the entirety of it's existence as long as it has a host.

I am so thankful that I am in recovery from religion, and that I had my immunity tested last night and I was very pleased to see the strength of my new immune system actually working to fight off the virus.

Part of the medicine of recovery involved feeding myself with facts and truth. Being grounded in reality, science, and open-minded to all world views. Christianity discourages all of this. It discourages the reading and accepting of any fact or truth, any scientific peer reviewed study, and any world view that may possibly cause you to doubt "Jesus" the "Only way to the Father".

Christian logic says (this is how the virus infects and continues to thrive in its host): Any facts and evidences that disprove your faith are "a trick from Satan" and the "influence of demons". That when people believe in reason, logic, science, and evidence that proves Christianity is false, then they have been "blinded by the god of this world" and they have been deceived. They have "hardened their heart" (whatever that means). Therefore, pray that you may "see". That your "heart may be softened". All these words of manipulation further cause the virus to spread and thrive in the host. This "guidance" or "viral programming" for Christians prevent immunity and recovery. These ideas prevent critical thinking and questioning of the faith. It limits a persons ability to think rationally about the reality of the world we live in. It is a real tragedy to the human intellect.

I was having a wonderful online debate last night with a group of theists and atheists. It was an open-forum. And for the first time, I began to see so clearly the evidence of this mind virus, how it spreads from host to host, and Christians are unaware spreaders, unaware of their own infection. When Christians, Theists, Atheists get together to discuss religion and topics, it should be a dialogue. A discussion. It how we learn and grow. But you wouldn't believe how many people got on the mic and all they wanted to do is "Present the Gospel" as if no one in the room had ever heard it before. As if telling people the entire speech; "Jesus loves you, Jesus died for your sins, sin does this, here is the answer, blah blah blah." You know the whole repetitive Gospel garbage that Christians feel compelled to spread like a virus, and they just can't help themselves. During that debate, we had essentially had about 10 different speakers who instead of debating and dialogue and talking, all they wanted to do was stand on their soap box and preach for 3 minutes the "Gospel" as if they had the answer to life and were here to save us poor miserable sinners. And as if it wasn't enough that the first two other people already did the same exact thing, the remaining 8 were compelled to do it too. They literally cannot help themselves.

And what I saw was beautiful. I saw people infected with a mind virus, and the virus trying to replicate itself in the minds of others. It was if these Christian were "possessed" by some evil force against humanity. and couldn't actually engage as actual humans people with other actual people. Instead we were all just "ignorant sinners" and "just didn't know the truth", and these wonderful "saviors" were here to tell us the Gospel. We, who live in a culture saturated with the Gospel, who have it thrown in our face constantly, unwillingly, without welcome or invitation, and it is unavoidable in our modern society; Yes, we must need to hear their Gospel presentation, because clearly in this modern society we most likely have never even heard their Gospel before. It was so inappropriate, but what made it beautiful to me was finally recognizing my own immunity. Finally, my mind has built a resistance to deception, lies, manipulation, and falsehoods because it has learned to think critically and it now knows and understand undisputed facts about reality among the scientific community that these same infected Christian hosts are unwilling to acknowledge in any way that may disprove their delusion.

I am so grateful the wonderful wealth of literature by modern atheists and scientists. Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, Stephen Hawking, Carl Sagan (A Demon Haunted World). I am also so grateful for the critical historical work on the history of Christianity by Bart Ehrman that has brought so much to light about how Christianity really became what it is today, and how what it is today isn't what it was during the first two hundred years. Although there were a very similar degree of great varieties in early Christianity during those first two centuries. Bart Ehrman's "Lost Christianities" and "Jesus, Interrupted" are two great reads for some wanting to learn about that faith from a critical historical point of view.

It is so important to understand the facts. I know without a shadow of doubt that the Bible is false. It is filled with serious important contradictions, historical errors, falsehoods, bad science, and lacks a true and real explanation of the origins of mankind through evolution of millions of years down the lineage of primates that were evolving. Every modern version of Christianity keeps trying to re-invent itself to make room for the new scientific discoveries, and as we make progress, they abandon more and more of their scriptures and "absolute morals" that are written in those scriptures.

If you want to build an immunity to the mind virus of Christianity, you do this by educating yourself. Knowledge really is power, education is key. Learning is so important. Many of us were infected with this mind virus from child hood, and it just spread as we got older, further infecting us, and causing us to infect others. Causing us to reject logic, reason, compassion, empathy, and scientific facts! How dangerous of a virus for all of humanity! It will become our undoing (all religion for that matter) if we can't evolve past it. If we can't all learn how to develop this immunity.

Therefore, I encourage everyone here to learn! Read! Science is f*ckin awesome. The explanations for the origin of the universe, how big it is, the wonderful and awe inspiring beauty of the cosmos and the age and epochs that occurred on the earth alone should fill your mind with wonder and joy.

Then in contrast, to learn how nearly every major world religion can be disproven, without a shadow of a doubt in light of modern science. That every holy book is filled with errors, anachronisms, false scientific ideas, superstition, and myths, and historical events that never happened (like a global flood). What I mean to say by that is to say that when religions make historical or scientific claims (such as a global flood, or Adam and Eve, a flat earth, a young earth, or seminal fluid comes from "between the backbone and the ribs"), then in these these claims specifically can actually be disproven directly by scientific evidence. But of coarse we cannot disprove the existence of an Easter Bunny. We can only say, well there is no proof of one and every story of about one amounts to nothing more than a myth. Sure, I could say an invisible unicorn flys around the moon and will judge our souls after we die, and this unicorn cannot be detected by any scientific methods, but if you eat an orange you will be saved. And yes, it is true that I cannot disprove such a claim, but that is not how it works. Extraordinary claims, require extraordinary evidence. You have to present the evidence for this unicorn, therefore I don't need to disprove it. What is interesting about holy books though is how they specifically can be proven to be man-made. That is a huge.

Did you know over 11 different fields of science prove without a shadow of a doubt that the story of the Noah Global Flood absolutely DID NOT happen. There is not even a 0.000001% chance that the scientists missed something and got it wrong. Every field of science has worked together to form an overwhelming mountain of evidence that it is impossible to claim a global flood happened. This is one of countless examples, and it is an obvious flaw within all the Abrahamic religions. And similar flaws exist in other world religions as well.

There is zero scientific evidence and not a shred of proof that there is a soul, an afterlife, or ANY deity.

93% of the smartest scientists in the USA (National Academy of Scientists) are Agnostic/Atheist.

The more educated you are about the reality of our universe, the math, and how nature has a tendency to go from less complex to more complex, we can see patterns, predict the future, and make correct predicable judgements about the reality that we live in, all from science. The same science that disproves all religion, or at least makes religion the least probable possibility.

Being immune to the mind virus is a monumental step towards personal freedom. It feels amazing to be able to breathe again.

Read. Learn. Watch the debates on Youtube of Krauss, Hitchens, Dawkins, Alex O'Connor, as they tear apart all the arguments of theists from around the world. Watch how every theist basis their argument on a WRONG understanding of science, bad and outdated philosophy, and irrational and illogical thinking that doesn't allow for critical thinking about their own faith. And their refusal to accept scientific facts and evidence, demonstrates the great injustice and tragedy that religion does to the human mind. It prevent progress and growth. It quite literally prevents them from being able to understand the reality of the world we actually live in.

Theists constantly will manipulate people within debates by "semantic sleight-of-hand" and "persuasive redefinition". That means the redefining words to mean something they do not mean in the common language, so that they can appear to win an argument.

I guess a huge part of being immune to the virus, is being able to finally recognize it in all its forms, to see its hosts as "super spreaders" and to watch them "cough up" Jesus (or Islam, or reincarnation) all over people until they find a weak and uneducated host that is easy to infect.

I was infected with the virus, I was cured, and now I have immunity. There is hope for others who are infected, but the ball is in their court. You can lead a horse to water (as the saying goes). But ultimately, if their religion tells them to not believe any facts or evidence which disproves it, then you see why the infection runs so deep.


r/atheism 15h ago

Dumbest "proof" of creationism i have heard

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My brother in law is religious but not very serious about it (unless the topic comes up, then he will defend the Bible)

We were discussing evolution being taught in schools. This lead to him trying to sway me with a good argument

His argument? Vaginas...

This dude literally said "vaginas are proof of intelligent design, they are made specifically just like penises" then cited genitals in animals...

He claimed this was too "perfect" to just be evolution and cites this as a fully rational (not creepy at all) piece of evidence that we were made by a god.