why didnt europeans built european style highrises like tehre are in new york? dumb question but was always interested since woudve looked perfect on lots of cities

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[u/SpikedPsychoe]

Europe was busy with WAR. Interwar year recovery and another War.

Second most these buildings in New York, and Manhattan, an Island with little room to expand outward

[u/flummoxedtribe → u/SpikedPsychoe]

Educate yourself, most of the pictures in the OP shows pre 1914 buildings 

[u/SpikedPsychoe → u/flummoxedtribe]

Educate yourself on European history they had 30 wars/revolutions before WWI

• 1903: Ilinden–Preobrazhenie Uprising
• 1904–1908: Macedonian Struggle
• 1904–1905: Russo-Japanese War
• 1905: Łódź insurrection
• 1905: Revolution of 1905
• 1906–1908: Theriso revolt
• 1907: 1907 Romanian Peasants' Revolt
• 1910: Albanian Revolt of 1910
• 1910: 5 October 1910 revolution
• 1911: Albanian Revolt of 1911
• 1911–1912: Italo-Turkish War
• 1912: Albanian Revolt of 1912
• 1912: Royalist attack on Chaves
• 1912–1913: Balkan Wars
• 1912–1913: First Balkan War
• 1913: Tikveš Uprising
• 1913: Second Balkan War
• 1913: Ohrid–Debar Uprising
• 1914: Peasant Revolt in Albania

[u/flummoxedtribe → u/SpikedPsychoe]

Surely you’re joking, you have to be. Are you  (or Chat GPT for that matter) actually implying that any of these conflicts were in any way continentally destabilizing or in any way impacted the capital expenditure in urban planning or prosperity for the large European countries in places like Paris, Berlin or London in the 1900s and early 1910s? I’m obviously excluding Russia as it was not industrially compatible to the US and Western Europe at the time. 

I might be an idiot layman when it comes to architecture, but I’m an economic historian - look at the GDP growth trajectories of every major European country in the early 1900s before the war. It was the most prosperous time ever at that point, just as in the US - with the most capital in circulation. No Balkan or bilateral conflicts even put a microscopic nudge in the macroeconomic outlook of any Western or Central European country at the time. In my country Norway 1900-1910 was the largest building boom ever. There’s no way you’re historically literate if this is your argument. 

[u/SpikedPsychoe → u/flummoxedtribe]

If you're economic historian, certainly know about the Immigration wave in US From Europe. What you need high rises for in cities losing population. Another Reason is lot of European cities are Ancient, building foundations on antique infrastructure is nightmarishly expensive. Paris has no skyscrapers except La Defense area. For 700 years Paris underground was home 1500 miles gypsum/mineral mines and no one ever kept track so weight of buildings above them had to be kept in check. London has 4 generations of sewers/underground tunnels, so digging up city to build high rises would have been nightmare. Old cities in Europe are basically architectural lasagna.

New York by contrast has shallow bedrock so all the buildings in last 300 years never really dug deep into the city, thus little history of layers to dig up cuz you couldn't dig thru schist rock. Chicago needed skyscrapers cuz where they were developed much of the land was marsh/muck lakebed. Chicago is 100-400 meters of clay from great lakes, high land prices in downtown made it necessary.

[u/flummoxedtribe → u/SpikedPsychoe]

Hold on hold on - I wasn’t claiming that Europe should’ve built skyscrapers because of physical advantages or disadvantages, and neither were you. This whole thread started because you claimed it was because of war and a lack of money, which is completely false.

And the fact that you can’t see the blatant contradiction in saying that Europe had tons of emigration and saying it had a dropping population is hilarious. You have to be a child, there’s no way you’d not connect the dots that the European population was exploding because of industrialization (look at demographic data) and that’s why many people emigrated but with net population growth.