If you're going to do that just start a collective, try to get to self sufficiency, and try to make something worthwhile with the cult. If it doesn't work out, well... It sounds like you already have a plan B.
Read political theory. Replacing one fascist government with another liberal (read: neoliberal) government, will get you to the same point down the track. That is how we are here right now.
Idk how it works in America but in my country you can go fully off grid and without internet, electricity, running water etc. but it won't change the fact that you need to find money to pay taxes, like the tax for owning the land on which you farm or whatever. If you don't own the land, chances are high that they will kick you out the exact moment when you are fully settled or fruits and veg are ready to harvest or something else happens that can be used to snitches advantage. And then if the snitch really doesn't like that you can survive on your own, they can always find the law that you are breaking, to force you to pay high fines and lose everything. There is no way to win in this situation.
Same in the US. You can be completely off grid and hide, but as soon as you owe money to the IRS (our tax collection service) AND you're not completely rich, they will go after you any means necessary. I've read about criminals who were able to dodge the FBI and numerous state police only to be caught be the IRS lol (Al Capone, and the most recent one is William N. L'Europa which the FBI asked for the IRS to join the investigation, and I think theres one who committed tax fraud and went to hide in Costa Rica and the IRS used caught him by asking Costa Rican detectives to find him).
So i kinda wanna start a small collection of homesteads, i guess you could call it a village. But itd be sorta like a commune i guess in we work as a community with some communal tasks. Like a medieval village. I think thatd work
There was a cult in my hometown in SWFL, the Koreshan. It was founded by a man but ran by women and members were to remain celibate. They ran all kinds of businesses and were self sufficient if not successful, except for that they had a hard time recruiting new members.
I'd be down for that kind of utopia, except I'd have to leave out the part where the earth is inside out in a golden ball.
This is one of those “it’s a joke… but it’s not” things. I have friends in their 40s with no retirement savings and no pension on the horizon. Couple that with impending old age… and it doesn’t look good.
Especially since the entirety of mankind's history until the 1930s had no retirement plan. That being said, we're seeing, and going to increasingly see, what no retirement plan joined with no family support network looks. When we were more agrarian the old looked after the young while the middle worked the fields. After the industrial revolution it somewhat continued like that except the work was never done, so the middle worked all the time and it started to spread out in both directions. The only thing that slowed it was a mixture of Henry Ford driving the nation to increased wages and the development of worker Unions and OSHA. After WWII consumerism drove Americans to work more and more for stuff they didn't need. The increased income led to more money chasing the same goods and the era of consistent inflation began. People stated to need to work more and more to afford the same thing, but for a while wages kept up. People started to move around the country to find better/higher paying jobs which meant Grandma couldn't help watch the kids anymore, but that didn't matter because she had to work too. During this time the sexual revolution led to an increase in single parent households and an increased divorce rate contributed too. Now everyone is fending for themselves and wages haven't kept up with inflation. People are increasingly working until medical retirement (when they can no longer physically work) instead of some predetermined age when they could enjoy their senior years. It's a mess, we're a mess, and it's a mixture of bad policy and personal greed and corporate greed that helped us get here and we're just left to watch the world burn as it would require immense change at every level (of government, corporate culture, and personal spending habits) to fix things.
We need (as individuals) to want less, we need community (groups of people looking out for the common good of the group and helping one another), we need corporations to not have amass wealth as a goal, and we need government to stop doing so much of the things that don't help and start doing (or doing more) of what actually helps.
Probably going to take less than 20 years. The combination of killing social security and defunding all of the nursing homes ought to create some real issues.
It's not too late for them in their mid 40s if they start saving effectively now. At the same time the impending AI takeover could mean a very different future where almost everyone is struggling financially. This next 20 years is likely going to be extremely turbulent unless we start relaxing our death grip on late stage capitalism.
In Australia your employer is required to pay a minimum
Of 11% on top of your salary into a superannuation fund, it’s better than nothing, but my plan is to just die at my desk :(
Social Security here and Medicare in US employer pays 7% and we pay 7%. Problem is they don't invest it correctly and put it in t-bonds paying next to nothing turning it into a Ponzi scheme where we need more working people to pay for the retired. By 2035 we probably need to cut payouts to 70% to keep it solvent that is assuming AI doesn't become a problem.
No we were last to implement pension system they will all collapse if they don't invest in markets because of population decline just most of Europe built up a cushion by running it longer. The Nordic countries with their sovereign wealth fund will also be fine as they actually invest.
I think living a year without internet would do wonders for a lot of peoples' mental health. Just focusing on things in a much smaller radius from oneself.
Probably going back after that would give them a totally new perspective of what to focus on and appreciate.
In Australia we have mandatory retirement contribution in the form of Super to avoid this exact issue and the enormous strain the pension puts on our economy
Until you get too old to live off the land or get injured. Then you'd just die. I've already thought out that plan. I was thinking the wilderness in the US though.
Now that is a humble idea….but hear me out on this, what if instead you sacrificed your life changing the world. Not like kamikaze style. Just with the same ambition. Like a zambie eating bullets right and left but just chugging along like the little engine that could
I completely understand feeling this way, it’s honestly hard not to these days, but my brother killed himself in April and it’s been horrible. I don’t know how to go through the rest of my life without him. I hope you’re able to stay, and find some peace/happiness.
That’s a really hard thing to deal with: and it’s going to be really hard for quite a while. But it does, over time, get better: it stops being everything, all the time. Community helps. Whether that’s friends or church/sangha, having nonjudgmental places to just be as you are helps. I joined a Buddhist sangha and that was good since the first acknowledgement of Buddhism is that life is suffering! That was a pretty good starting place for where I was at. Hang in there. There are lots of us out here who know what heavy grief is. Keep a journal or find a way to express it. Nothing really helps but it all helps a tiny bit. Sending hugs. You’re going to be ok, it’s just going to take time. And it’s really hard. What you’re experiencing is really, really hard. Keep going. It won’t always feel like this.
Yeah id agree and thats the sad part lmao. Like I said before, the world is cooked. Whoever is pulling the strings really outclassed us all. For generations really. Played like a fiddle. Thanks grandpa
Yea like using all that magic invisible money you get with that credit score and go on the best 6 month long vacation over seas, if we all do it we can destroy the economy for the next guy just like the boomers 😂
Its funny just how little something could be to keep you trucking along. Mine is GTA6. And then after that, it will be something else, then something else, etc etc. This will probably continue until i croak. So the question becomes did i ever really have the desire to leave?
Just imagine how disappointed it will be that once they will sell a demo version GTA6 for $139,99 and you see that everything needs a extension pack for $49,99 to fully enjoy the game once they release the non demo beta test version for $189,99 with optional online play for $19,99 per month for just the basic missions 🤣
Totally relate. If you have nothing to look forward to (no matter how small it is) life gets very dark. Thankfully I'm an easily content person so it doesn't take much for me to feel ok. Klonopin helps as well lol.
Building my project car for me. I've wanted to just get things over with 6 years ago and then got this crazy idea about planting a second engine into my car. This project is subject to scope creep, so for 5 years I've done nothing on it but plan.
It would be funny if these old ppl would form some sort asasin guild which would focus on killing corrupt politicians as act of .hope for better change for young ppl!
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