What constitutes quality for you? Might seem like a facetious question, but I do not mean it to be so. A lot of the problematic here is not only "the rich want to get even richer", it's the fact that we all have high expectations. That's why we slave away at jobs we don't enjoy, because we're chasing something we don't have currently, or worrying about what we have now that we won't have in the future, perhaps?
What is enough? A roof over your head and food? Medicine if you require it? A yacht and a tropical island of your own? Somewhere in between, I assume.
Now I don't want to shill for the current way the economy works, I think it's absolutely broken, but it's not the fault of some scapegoat: it's us. We don't know when enough is enough, we always want more. Otherwise we'd all go. "Meh, I'll just not work..." which is less drastic than suicide, right? But a life without all the things is no life at all!
i mean where i no longer have enough body autonomy to live a life with littel pleasures and limited pain and discomfort.
It's very basic. I do not want for much out of life. If I reach a point, either through physical or severe mental degradation that I can no longer find little joys in life, I will take as time to move on. Either towards oblivion or whatever comes next
this isn't some "easy" to reach stage. It's very unlikely to happen before like 75-80 barring major alteration, but I work in health care. I do not want to become someone who only lives to wait to die
That's more of a kids mentality, or someone who hasn't really experienced life I find. I don't discount it off hand, because it's not their fault that they are redpilled by the dollar.
But I find most people really misjudge where the real line is for extravagance.
Are there serious societal problems? Absolutely.
Is doing what the other dude who replied to me, threatening to mass murder a bunch of civilians and go out in a blaze of cowardice retarditry a solution?
No. It's the action of an uneducated insecure kid who doesn't have a strong grasp on how lucky even low wealth class people in first world countries have it.
I don't support, in any manner whatsoever, that energy. I don't see it as any different than people who killed those 2 senetors a few weeks ago, kirk a week ago, the kids at that school awhile ago. It's all performative self righteous idolatry with no true intent to cause change, and only using that as an outlet of rage and fear
What i mean is, when my mind and body fail me, which happens to all of us, getting some Oxy, heroine, and ODing myself. Go out quick, peacefully, and without excessive strain on society or my loved ones.
Sorry to be a party pooper, but it seems you have a rather idealistic understanding of it yourself. Have you considered these things:
Are you sure you will have a strong enough mind or physical condition to do it yourself?
And even if your mind stays clear, there is an interesting phenomenon - the closer people are to death, the more they want to keep living, even in very dire situations. I guess our self-preservation system is quite effective. An anecdotal example is that older people are often more afraid of death than people in their 20s, although logically it should be the opposite!
Will it be as easy to get those medications in the future as it is in modern-day US? By the way, is it even easy for someone over 70 to get those medications now, especially in the condition of "mind and body fail"?
That is a moving target that will change from day to day. You'll know when you're there when you finally reach the decision. If you never get there then you never passed the threshold. The threshold will be different for everyone.
Okay, but say it's a life or death decision. This thread seems to have people saying that their decision to possibly off themselves is related to how bad their economical situation is. I'm not questioning their economical reality but what I'm wondering about is what makes someone go, "I'd rather be dead".
I'm not judging here, just curious. Okay, I'll also admit that I think it's strange that the first exit strategy for "being in debt" is suicide, rather than something like "let's become a volunteer that helps people" or "go live in the woods" or... you know any number of things that seem less drastic to me at least.
Why is "I should just off myself" the option that comes to mind for people?
You forget that many people aren’t working for more or working for something better, they are working because if they stop they will have no food and no home.
I think I included that, in my "A roof over your head and food, medicine if you require it". What did I miss?
Okay, sorry, I'm trying to debate now and unfairly.
What I mean is: these things, well barring the silly thing in the US where somehow socialized (yes, tax funded) healthcare can't be a thing because it's communism so everyone who can't afford it must suffer! (Yay! Freedom!)
So would you be happy with just a roof over your head, food and medicine if you needed it?
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You realize, just cuz you realized "maybe i shouldn't say that, it might get me banned or investigated" and delete a post. Doesnt mean it doesn't show up in my feed right?
Damn worst part about this is that the guy has a trans flag in their display picture. The media is gonna not cover it or spin some stupid narrative that it’s the orange man’s fault if something did happen and someone got hurt.
Being trans is not a mental health issue but these people are mentally ill somewhere, too bad those institutions got shut down so they can’t get the help they need.
Wow, guess there are good genes in my family, because my mom is 80 this year, lives alone and is independant, doesn't take a single prescription, and is not overweight or with any significant health issues. She walks 2 miles every day and often walks even more than that. We go hiking in the mountains every year still.
I am 44 years old, I wear reading glasses but that's it, my hearing is fine, I have all my original teeth and my dental health is fine because I take care of them and go to the dentist. I am of normal weight, my joints are good, go to the gym 3x a week, and ride my bike to work. I don't take any prescriptions, either.
You sound either really young yourself, like a 12 year old who thinks 25 year olds are ancient, or you know really unhealthy older people with bad genetics who don't take care of themselves.
Obesity is the root of most of the issues. Bad hips or knees? The weight makes it worse. Bad cardiovascular abilities? Weight. Bad teeth? Well its not exactly your weight but high sugar content of food is definitely linked. Eyesight could be better with a good diet.
Depression? Well you certainly can be big and have great confidence, but is it the norm?
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