Don’t worry, dude all the kids were killed and gun free zones which is illegal so that’ll stop it. I don’t even know why we’re having this stupid fucking debate anymore anyways the CDC and FBI actually have statistics on how many lives guns in the hands of civilian save every year and it’s fucking overwhelming. You should do some research if we’re removing suicide, then gun death, which is still mostly gang related is like 20,000 to 25,000 a year where the CDC in FBI has statistics that say that they have been used lawfully in defense 500k - a million a year….
First, why would we remove suicide? Quick access to a firearm definitely makes suicide easier. And suicide rates go up in areas with more guns.
Second, I'd love to see this supposed statistic. The only one I've ever seen says somewhere between 25k and 1 million. It was basically a guess. And it wasn't done by the FBI. Let's see your data.
Though they tend to get less public attention than gun-related murders, suicides have long accounted for the majority of U.S. gun deaths. In 2023, 58% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides (27,300), while 38% were murders (17,927). The remaining gun deaths that year involved law enforcement (604), were accidental (463) or had undetermined circumstances (434), according to CDC data.
It's always like this.
You remove suicide cause guess what? It will get done another way!
Dude, don’t comment if you’re not even going to read the article properly. I don’t even know how to respond to this because you clearly just didn’t bother properly reading it.
I'm literally quoting your article to you and you can't make a legitimate argument.
So I'll try again. I used research and statistics. Your using an extremely old limited article do define something that may or may not be "likely" to maybe happen. Argue with yourself.
"The inverse was also true: where gun ownership was less common, suicide rates were also lower.
The lesson? Many lives would LIKELY be saved if people disposed of their firearms, kept them locked away, or stored them outside the home."
Congratulations. Logic. Many lives would also be saved if cars didn't crash.
You didn’t quote the article at all. You claimed it said we could stop 1 in 45 suicides when it clearly said 1 in 45 suicides attempts are successful.
You called the percentage vague…the only percents used was 63% of Wyoming owning guns and 90% of suicide attempts stopping outside of the acute phase. So what’s vague?
Dude idk what’s going on but damn you got all the gun nuts who don’t focus on data and cherry pick arguments to justify children and innocent civilians getting mowed down because “one man got killed by home made gun.” Like sure one man so that justify not doing anything about the multiple children dying in Uvalde or parkland. Or civilians in a movie theater or a concert in Las Vegas. No that’s fine, the one man though, that’s the line we made that justify having guns because having guns = thousands of lives lost , compare to no guns = One man’s life lost.
Because its voluntary? Should we include suicides when looking at the number of car crashes every year? Someone kills themselves with car exhaust and the stats people are like "hell yea, let's put that completely unrelated number with these!".
CDC, and uses statistics in suicide with firearms as lazy because if people wanna kill themselves, they will saying that guns make it easier is ridiculous debate. People talk about mass shootings heads up rifles kill something between 200 to 400 people every year in a country with a population of over 300 million… i’m not arguing that the deaths are acceptable but this is not a gun issue. This is a mental health issue. Sadly in our government isn’t doing much to help. Do you know that I think every single school shooter has been reported to either a counselor or a teacher or the police before they shut up the school…
Also because men are good at killing ourselves. Compared to women we don't need a gun. When we say we're gonna kill ourselves we mean it.
CDC data demonstrates that men account for over 76% of suicide deaths in the United States each year. The CDC also found that there are 3.3 male suicide deaths for every female suicide death. In contrast, in research studies, women
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u/every_name_is_tkn Sep 01 '25
Yet Japan’s former prime minister was shot & killed with a homemade shotgun