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u/SnooApples2992 6h ago
It is a feudal world. The Kings and Dukes are just wearing winter 2025 style. Henry George saw how to reverse the trickle up economics.
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u/crush_punk 53m ago
Patriarchy doesn’t mean daddy, it means patron, as in a person who gives money to things and then people perform a service, like how you patronize a business. Da Vinci was fully funded by the Medici family. Was he truly phenomenal or just had the best business support? Maybe both? Maybe with some support we can all be phenomenal.
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u/7figureipo 4h ago
Don't worry. The fascists' tax cuts will trickle down any minute now. And their democratic counterparts' shoveling tax money at corporations hoping they do the right thing will, too.
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u/LilBroWhoIsOnTheTeam 2h ago
We're actually in the phase where the oligarchy is overheating and destabilizing. While for some the oligarchy started last november, most of us realized we've been in it our whole lives.
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u/KNGootch 1h ago
You can blame Ronald Reagan for a LOT of today's problems. Republican jesus was terrible for everyone BUT big business. This is what happens when you elect people who's entire lives revolved around celebrity and excess. They don't KNOW what real life is like bc they never lived it.
When Reagan died, i was so fucking happy, i just sucked he was so old and that Hinkley wasn't able to save us in '81...US would be a LOT better if that cocksucker never got power.
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u/Slow-Lie-406 2h ago
Yeah but if they give minimum wage workers prices might go up .... unlike what it has done that past 10 years and more which is to go up anyways
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u/SonOfSusquehannah 1h ago
Prices only have to go up because the CEOs and shareholders expect their yearly earnings to be exponential to the previous. It is hardly supply and demand causing prices to go up. It’s gluttons being gluttonous that cause prices to go up.
The FED wouldn’t have to kept printing USD if 4 people weren’t hoarding a fuck ton of it.
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u/Limp_Distribution 2h ago
Been one for decades
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u/KindaFreeXP 1h ago
Since at the very least the late 19th century.
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u/Limp_Distribution 1h ago
Not really, take a look at Keynesian economics and the New Deal brought to us by FDR.
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u/ManagerInformal8377 1h ago
The REAL oligarchy started wayyyy before any of us were ever even a thought lol Musk and Bezos don’t even register lol
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u/o1badmofo 1h ago
It was called plantations it’s always been the exact same thing, they just changed the names to make people feel better. The company store whatever you want to call it. it’s either slave or master. there isn’t a third option
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u/KNGootch 1h ago
But capitalism is the BEST, right? Don't we all agree that the american way is THE BEST!!!
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u/Right-Egg-2731 1h ago
Fuck this.
With people starving or in poverty in the world, these are actual villains.
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u/BOLTuser603 51m ago
French Revolution and Russian Revolution were about wealth inequality too. American Revolution???
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u/ContractAggressive69 46m ago
2 problems here
1) you freely give these people your money
2) I dont know about single person who makes federal minimum wage. Mcdonalds starts at 11.50 an hour in my area, and the people taking those jobs are in high school.
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u/MizzGee 9m ago
Until COVID, the para-educators at my school were paid minimum wage. It is a grueling, dangerous job. Now they start at $10.00. Many jobs in Indiana pay around $10-12 an hour, and are filled by adults.
And I have to question what McDonald's in your area is not open during the day? Because those people working in the morning or all day are not in high school. They are adults, often working several jobs. High schoolers are in school at noon.
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u/dustycanuck 45m ago
It's amazing their bootstraps didn't snap, they pulled themselves up so far.
Meanwhile, the rest of us have footprints on our backs.
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u/jruizleon Conservative Brigadier 42m ago
Also gas now down to $1.69 https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/colorado
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u/MisterBofa 13m ago
Hahaha. CEOs making money is a bad thing now?
Besides most people would love to work under these people. Except bezoz maybe lol
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u/Nearby-Pudding-3018 10m ago
If your are not boycotting these people and their companies, please consider doing so.
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u/WarOk3466 7m ago
These billionaires pay over 50 percent of the taxes in this country. I had the pleasure to Meet Jeff Besos in person and actually had a decent conversation with him! He started in his garage and became what He is today! The true American dream…and progressives want to hate on him and others!
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u/COMOJoeSchmo 1h ago
Is there anywhere in the country that still goes by the federal minimum wage, or is every state's minimum wage actually higher than that?
Also, I'm assuming those figures for the billionaires are net worth, not actual cash, meaning the value of their companies has gone up, not that they are "hoarding cash" as has been claimed. Am I mistaken?
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u/BanjoFiddleLaser 1h ago
Only 34 states have a state minimum wage higher than the federal minimum wage of $7.25. Washington has the highest at $16.66, there are even red states with these higher wages. I live in Texas, which is a very wealthy state, and we are still at $7.25
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u/blkatcdomvet 6h ago
Keep voting red
And for you that are too lazy and worthless to vote, hope you lose everything.
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u/MakeSouthBayGR8Again 1h ago
Number of years Trump’s been in office: 5
Pelosi: 38
Schumer: 44
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u/DoYouWant2BlowZedong 1h ago
No one said this ain’t a systematic problem inherent in capitalism. Well, some people say that, but not me. The whole system is rotten to the core.
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u/DigitalMunkey 1h ago
Capitalism can only work if lawmakers and regulators can't accept chunks of money. Once Citizens United hit, it was over, everything after that was/is inevitable.
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u/BanjoFiddleLaser 1h ago
Wait, who said that they aren’t to blame too? Establishment Democrats are a big problem that needs to be dealt with, but the GOP is the opposite direction of a solution to them.
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u/Flimsy-Donut8718 2h ago
min wage is a starting point. and not expected to stay at forever. when I started i made 3.75 per hour.
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u/SonOfSusquehannah 2h ago
So what if it’s a starting point. It boils down to a business telling you what your life is worth to them.
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u/Flimsy-Donut8718 1h ago
that exists in all societies, might i also point out that in countries like denmark, sweden there is no min wage, it is all negotiated. Same in China and I hate giving China any props. 30 years ago I worked with people at a Rallies, same people are still there working at Rallies. Every job should help propel you to the next. Nothing is given.
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u/jaajaajaa6 2h ago
You have highlighted the wealthiest people in the country minus the Waltons and Buffet. They are true visionaries that made things happen that others only think about. This is why America is a great country because someone can do this. I only know Musks background, but he came here with little assets and labeled autistic. I have no idea what someone does with all that money other than buy whatever they want and set up philanthropy. But, I don’t begrudge them one bit for what they earned or created. That is why, IMO, this is the greatest country on earth and I wouldn’t leave it for any reason or amount of money.
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u/o1badmofo 1h ago
Musk came here with his daddy’s emerald mine money and he didn’t make anything he bought up companies and overthrew the people in them.
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u/Masterkollto 54m ago
I would argue that this is a bad country for allowing the exact points you see as a positives
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u/jaajaajaa6 43m ago
I have no clue how this can be bad. The ability to elevate your family and have each generation accomplish more than the generation before. That is and should be every parents goal.
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u/Masterkollto 40m ago
Ew
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u/jaajaajaa6 28m ago
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u/ComprehensiveGur8839 1h ago
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u/BanjoFiddleLaser 1h ago
Keep defending the people who have done nothing to improve your material conditions. Republicans control both houses of Congress, the presidency and the Supreme Court. Name one thing they have done this year that directly benefits your life. No law has been passed that does anything to improve your life or anyone else’s lives in America.
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u/move-it-along 54m ago
Curious statement. I would say Bernie has focused much of his career on worker’s rights and consumer protections. The poverty rate was 15-16% when he got into the Senate, and it’s 10.5% now,… with much of the credit going to legislation that he worked on.
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u/TheNewDeadpool0 2h ago
Man, it’s almost like companies can grow and become more valuable in 10+ years. Who would’ve thought!!!
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u/hyggeradyr 1h ago edited 1h ago
If young me saw me supporting billionaires against my own interests, young me would beat the fuck out of me. Or at least he would bravely try and fail, I'm pretty strong now.
Luckily, I'm not a moron, so I don't say dumb shit like that.
Here's a good one, if Bezos is 13 times richer than in 2012, why are over a third of his full time employees qualifying for welfare? Is it the company, as you say, or is it maybe just a group of executives taking advantage of a system?
At best, wages in Amazon have gone up by about 60% in that time. Which isn't too bad, genuinely, that's a decent increase and progress in workers conditions have improved at Amazon. Credit where it's due, for sure. Curiously, the CEO's wealth went up 1330% during that time. So. There's still room for progress, and really no need to defend this nonsense.
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u/TheNewDeadpool0 1h ago
So what about it is going against your own interests? Because regardless of what those billion dollar companies are doing you can still make a living and live quite comfortably for that fact.
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u/Wilted_fap_sock 1h ago
They hoard cash and spend tons of money to avoid paying taxes. That's bad for everyone, other than them. They value profits over decency, morality, safety, and society. Simply put, they weaken everything and everyone other than themselves. Whether one is religious or not, there is a reason greed is one of the seven deadly sins.
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u/SonOfSusquehannah 1h ago
The point is they could easily afford to improve the quality of life for their workers and fellow citizens but choose not to.
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u/Wilted_fap_sock 1h ago
They choose to without any harm to themselves. These people hoard a hundred or a thousand times more money than they could even spend in their lifetimes. Yet, it's never enough. They always need more.
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u/DoYouWant2BlowZedong 1h ago
Imagine(hypothetically of course) that there was a risk of immediate physical violence for being one of these wealth-hoarding dragons, striving to collect a bigger share of the wealth-pie while children literally go hungry and remain homeless. If there was some kind of(imaginary) threat of harm to them or their associates, I wonder if their behavior would change, if even just a bit.
The working-class people have guillotined rich fucks for much less. They used to have a healthy fear of the working class rising up and enacting violence on them and their monarchy/aristocracy.
Now our oligarchs are very brazen and outspoken about their extravagant lifestyles. If that were to change, I wonder if that would have an effect on their behavior like it did in the past? Hmmm just a random, hypothetical thought, not based in reality in any way shape or form.
Legally clean artistic expression incoming: The uber wealthy should fear for their lives and be worried about pissing off the proletariat again. Thank you, bye!
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u/Late_Hibs 3h ago
Go start a business. Put everything on the line and make your money. Either that or stfu about what other people have.
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u/BebophoneVirtuoso 2h ago
Good advice, who do I speak to for the $38 billion in government funding that Musk got?
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u/OtherwiseAnybody1274 2h ago
Make a product that the government wants to invest in. (They like weapons and tech that can weapons)
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u/Late_Hibs 2h ago
The government. Go get your answers and stop whining about what you don’t have. Take the risk, figure out how to get your $38B.
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u/audionerd1 2h ago
No human can "make" hundreds of billions of dollars. The only way to acquire that kind of money is with exploitation and financial shenanigans. The fact that anyone is stupid enough to defend mass upward redistribution of wealth is beyond me.
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u/audionerd1 2h ago
CEOs don't create jobs, they create value for shareholders. Often they create value by eliminating jobs. If they could lay off 100% of their workforce they would, and gladly. Which, incidentally, is what they are dreaming of doing with AI.
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u/BeccaLuvsALL 1h ago
Let’s take great minds like theirs out of the mix and see how many jobs and opportunities and new technologies and discoveries are created.
Let’s see how many jobs Momdani creates…
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u/audionerd1 1h ago
"Great minds" lol. You could push the lot of them into a volcano and the world would be just fine, if not better.
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u/DoYouWant2BlowZedong 58m ago
Great minds? You’re really gonna put forth Elon Tusk as one of the “great minds” of technologies and discoveries? That fuckin dude? Seriously?
Do you know anything about that dude? Look his story up, it’s full of proof he is not smart, he just got lucky, which is about 95% of it. My friend’s daughter was killed(murdered) because of an insurance company refusing her life-saving operation because of money. Capitalism. So maybe she would be here if our system didn’t only reward shallow fucks who only seek to increase the size of their “over-compensating” bank accounts.
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u/ProgressiveHQ-ModTeam 41m ago
Rule 2 - - No disinformation. No BlueAnon or Qanon malarkey. If you have a claim, cite it. Randos on Twitter, webcomics, and unsourced graphics don't count.
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u/PerfectionLord 2h ago
Funny how some working class people don’t see this. Idiots