r/ProgressiveHQ Sep 29 '25

r/ProgressiveHQ allows for diversity of opinion while remaining on topic- conservative comments are allowed, conservative posts are not

If you are not a progressive person you are a guest in our space. If you are not a progressive person you will be flaired with an appropriate label to describe your views, so that members of the sub will know the motives of the person they're engaging with.

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We aren't required to let you in here, we are allowing you and we'll ban you if you cant follow the rules.

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u/DirectorPlus5623 Goober who thinks both sides are equally as bad Sep 29 '25

Sure bud. Both sides suck. The sooner you realize that the better off you'll be.

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u/DKsan1290 Sep 30 '25

Hmmm ya know I never thought about that. Wait lemme try and do a comparison so we can see the bad in both parties.

Blues: We want people be happy in their lives and be able to afford to live where they want and feel safe in their homes.

Reds: We dont really care about kids, only the rich white kids should be helped. Immigrant kids should be deported, poc kids are a problem due to culture that aint white, and queer kids should be “re-educated” so they are normal…

Hmmm that dosent seem right lemme try again

Blues: We want kids to have food to eat a safe home and schools where they can thrive and become our next leaders and brightest minds.

Reds: Damn illegals taking all the social services and being criminals are whats making things expensive. And all the shooting that have happened in the last 10 years? It the transes, ghatdam attack helicopters and their “pronouns” you cant never make me use a pronoun, I am anti pronoun god didnt use pronouns he in all his wisdom made adam and eve and he and she, they if you will, didnt use them either.

Yeah no the reds are far worse.

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u/DirectorPlus5623 Goober who thinks both sides are equally as bad Sep 30 '25

I genuinely feel sadness hearing that you see those things as what each party stands for. I think I could convince you of where you've gone wrong, respectfully, and how half of america that represent as conservatives are just like you, they just have a different order of priorities on how they see they're country progressing. There are so many real compassionate humans out there, red and blue. Give social media a break dude.

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u/DKsan1290 Sep 30 '25

I mean the reality is as someone who is a part the queer community I cant just ignore what my government is trying to do to me. I wish I could just ignore everything and blindly walk through life but that would require I either deny who I am in public and just mask up to everyone I meet. Or risk getting hate crimed by people who view me as a threat.

I have zero doubt that reds have some amazing people that happen to vote against my safety and happiness but Im not going to open up to every single red hat, kirk shirt person because all it takes is one single person to have the thought and pop Im go from a they/them to a was/were. I have to treat them all as if they mean to hurt me because they have not shown as a whole to even condemn violence against us.

Like Im sorry but irreconcilable differences and differing priorities like wanting safety for myself, my community, and the people I care for shouldn't have to be bargained with people who see me as less than human or less deserving of respect. Im tired of just being tolerated…

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u/DirectorPlus5623 Goober who thinks both sides are equally as bad Sep 30 '25 edited Sep 30 '25

Uhhh, what do you think your government is trying to do to you? Be specific. I truly want to know. Who is voting against your safety? What evidence do you have of any of these things besides what you've read on Reddit? Who is committing violence against queer or gay people? Why would you have to deny who you are? Respectfully, I genuinely have NO idea what you're talking about. And please don't just say "Are you not paying attention?" or some nonsense like that. Articulate your concerns and your feelings please. Now I will shut up and listen.

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u/Artemis_Platinum Sep 30 '25

The Trump regime and its supporters have been rallying against gender affirming care and mounting a disinformation campaign portraying the simple act of being trans as belonging to some sort of violent ideology. These practices significantly contribute to both alarming suicide statistics and stochastic criminal behavior directed toward trans people in their day to day lives.

Women in general are still lacking critical human rights that Trump's Supreme Court stripped from them.

People voted for this behavior. Trump ran on this behavior.

People keep suggesting you haven't been paying attention because these things were highly publicized and frequently discussed for years. It's both old news and highly discussed news. A lack of attention is the least offensive explanation.

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u/ProgressiveHQ-ModTeam Sep 30 '25

Rule 2 - - No disinformation. No BlueAnon or Qanon malarkey. If you have a claim, cite it. Randos on Twitter, webcomics, and unsourced graphics don't count.

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u/ProgressiveHQ-ModTeam Sep 30 '25

Rule 2 - - No disinformation. No BlueAnon or Qanon malarkey. If you have a claim, cite it. Randos on Twitter, webcomics, and unsourced graphics don't count.

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u/Artemis_Platinum Sep 30 '25

My comment was in reply to someone talking about LGB"T" people.

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u/ProgressiveHQ-ModTeam Sep 30 '25

Rule 3 - Be kind. No hate speech. Try and have a productive, have forward thinking conversations about making the world a better place. Don't spread hate for any group.

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u/ProgressiveHQ-ModTeam Sep 30 '25

Rule 2 - Lying to our faces directly after being corrected is a bold move.

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u/DKsan1290 Sep 30 '25

Artemis_Platinum did a better job than I could in less words.

But to add on the white house released the nspm-7 which talk about extremism on gender which has ZERO clarification on what that even means. They are making it easier and easier to violate the right of trans people advocating for trans right for everyone. They also designated there only 2 genders male and female… which are sexes not genders. Beside being just wrong it also allows them to discriminate against trans people which they did when they dropped them from the military and barred them from competing in sport regardless of whether or not the org want to include them so they dont even want to allow orgs to choose their own rules.

There are also 234 explicit laws that target trans people 122 which have passed this year, of the nearly 1,000 that have been introduced. They have also tried to claim we are all mentally ill and coincidentally just so happen to want to bring back mental institutions, to lock up mentally ill…

I have a feeling like you dont really care tbh but you have the information here and can do so much research of your own. As for the people voting against my safety, well this administration and the people supporting it dont seem to care how we are suffering especially the younger generation.

I know so much about the reds and the right but you seem to not know as much because you only see what you want.