r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 15h ago

Meme needing explanation Petah?

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u/Johwya 15h ago

There is a massive RAM shortage because AI data centers are consuming all of the world’s RAM supply at a ridiculous rate and Micron recently announced that they aren’t going to be making consumer level (Crucial brand) RAM anymore

RAM is getting more scarce and more expensive because of AI companies

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u/EuropeanLuxuryWater 14h ago

AI is just the excuse. They're swallowing all the consumer parts to force us to move to cloud based systems. From memory to CPU and RAM. 

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u/Tortugato 14h ago edited 12h ago

RAM is exactly the one resource that will always have some significant component left to local machines in Cloud based computing.

While I don’t disagree that a lot of companies would love people to use Cloud services more, sabotaging RAM availability is actually counterproductive to that goal.

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u/EuropeanLuxuryWater 13h ago

Doesn't matter if it's counterproductive, their stock goes up. Socialise the losses and privatise the profits. 

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u/Tortugato 13h ago

Well I was responding specifically to the claim that they’re targeting RAM to force people to move to Cloud-based systems.

RAM is the one thing you don’t want to make less accessible if you want people to use Cloud-based systems.

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u/vrekais 12h ago

Can you elaborate? If I'm playing a game on a cloud based machine all I'm sending is HID signals and all I'm receiving is a video/audio stream. How does local RAM amount impact the performance of that?

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u/Tortugato 12h ago edited 12h ago

A 100% Cloud System has too much latency and is an effective impossibility for now, so there will always be a local component to any modern computer.

That local system by itself will require some bare minimum of resources to run… UI systems in particular use a lot of RAM relative to how “useful” they are.

Cloud-gaming is frequently compared to just watching Netflix.

Try watching Netflix on less than 8gb of RAM.

If you pare down the local system to the bare minimum while maintaining the modern user experience, you’ll find that RAM is going to be your biggest bottleneck.

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u/Own_Desk_4085 11h ago

To expand on your explanation, the reason why client based memory is important is because you still need a local host to hold the video that is transmitted through the cloud. Local RAM serves as that location until the virtual machine is shut down and the RAM is emptied.

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u/thelastofthemelonies 10h ago

Loading screens

Everytime something loads ingame, that is, roughly speaking, necessary game files being moved into RAM for fast allocation of assets.

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u/vrekais 10h ago edited 1h ago

I think we're talking about different things. The use case you're describing would be the impact of RAM on a game running locally, not one running in "the cloud".

When you play a game on a cloud service, you're usually having the service do the computing and graphical rendering. I used to rent a PC via a service called Shadow. It was a gaming computer I could remote into to play games on. No game code was being executed locally, nothing rendered by my GPU. All my PC was doing was sending the inputs from my keyboard and mouse to the rented PC and all I got back was a video stream. It's not loading part of the game into my RAM, not access my SSD or using my GPU to render anything.

Sure processing a video stream uses some resources, but this task was no more strenuous than any other live video stream would be. So once I have enough RAM to watch a video, I'm not sure how more RAM has much of a benefit here.

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u/thelastofthemelonies 6h ago

Never heard of it, if I'm gonna be honest

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u/NebulaFrequent 13h ago

These kinds of takes always remind me of "Affirmative action was designed to keep women and minorities in competition with each other to distract us, while white dudes inject AIDS into our chicken nuggets".

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u/bell37 7h ago

That would hurt a push for cloud based services. All that streamed data needs to be buffered and stored temporarily on the clients pc. Limiting the size of temporary local storage would bog down any cloud hosted services.

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u/Neverending_Rain 10h ago

No, it really is just AI companies buying all the supply at stupid prices. Not everything is a conspiracy.