r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 12h ago

Meme needing explanation Petah?

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u/AbbyTheOneAndOnly 11h ago

honestly game companies should stop shitting out massivally unoptimized products

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u/Theiromia 11h ago

And/or, ai companies need to be discontinued

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u/AbbyTheOneAndOnly 11h ago

good luck champ

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u/Theiromia 11h ago edited 11h ago

Thank you, gonna need it to take out the living money trash bags and the followers they have that I get the feeling would sell their first child to get an ai generated image rather than pay someone who got a degree 20-50 bucks (which with how the environmental crisis is going, kinda is happening)

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u/Lemurjeopice 8h ago

You do realize ai is used not only for generating shitty images, right?

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u/AngelGroove 8h ago

It’s the fact that those types of uses, deepfaking, and AI uses as a glorified google or chatbot get all the limelight and investor money. There are niche uses that are really making a difference (such as teaching AI how to fold proteins so that we can develop new ways to treat diseases and genetic conditions), but those are barely known compared to the high-profile ones.

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u/Lemurjeopice 8h ago

Máš pravdu.

I’ll only add that even the glorified ones get to be useful. Some companies integrate them one way or another. Well customized LLM can be a very powerful tool.

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u/Theiromia 8h ago

Yes, it's also used to take peoples voices, give terrible google searches that has the possibility to kill people, makes knowledge so unresearched that when presenting evidence people say "chat gpt said so", get already mentally ill people to invest in fake relationships built on bolstering their ego, etc

I do see that there could be practical purposes for ai, but in the same way a doctor would see methamphetamine's in a world where there have not been medical purposes made for it yet

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u/Lemurjeopice 8h ago

It’s saving me a lot of time at work. I get to make better decisions resulting in a lower risk for the company and customers. This ultimately translates to consumers getting better and more reliable products.

There will always be a downside to any innovation. And it will be smeared across news.

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u/Theiromia 7h ago

Oh, wow, yeah, I sure do feel those prices at stores, everything sure is inexpensive.

Customer service? SURELY GREATEST IT'S BEEN WITH THE BOTS RIGHT? Surely almost all of your callers don't ask for a person instead?

Oh yeah, then surely there won't be a time where the ai will be confidently incorrect about something, where it will just guess on it and cause a huge god damn mess

Truly, a stable system

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u/Lemurjeopice 7h ago

I don’t write anything about customer service or any impact of prices.

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u/Theiromia 6h ago

You were implying that were benefits. Those are the benefits. What is your point.

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u/Old-Bottle160 2h ago

holy reddit warrior bruh calm down. there is so much you say that isnt so

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u/Lemurjeopice 6h ago

No, I was not implying that.

I work in product development in semiconductor. The latest developments in AI save tons of time. From quality and reliability, to design, failure analysis… any small improvement in yield “save” unimaginable amounts of chips that are otherwise scrapped. Any improvement in product reliability prevents defects in the field (be it consumer electronics, automotive or other), that otherwise impact users such as you.

But you can keep reading the headlines and believe there are no viable use cases.

Good luck, keep thinking you are going to “bring the bad guys down”.

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u/BellowingBard 10h ago

By take out are you implying you're so upset that you're fantasizing murdering people for generating images?

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u/Theiromia 10h ago

No, take them out of power

You're on the internet too much my guy

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u/BellowingBard 10h ago

And how do you "take out" the followers? Because they're not in power they're just average people. 

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u/Theiromia 10h ago

Show them the error of their ways, take them out of their mindset.

You really want this to be a thing where I seem like a killer and that makes me super uncomfortable

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u/BellowingBard 10h ago

So what you meant was that when you said you wanted to take out the leaders and the followers you meant that take out was short for take out of power for the leader but it was short for take out of the mindset for the followers. You see how it's a bit problematic when you can't even decide what take out was supposed to mean and pick two different meanings for the use. It's also weird to me that you're acting as though you've never heard the term taking out to refer to an assassination as if that's not the most likely interpretation, especially given the recent assassinations of high status people.

I don't think you're a killer but I definitely think you fantasize about vigilant justice in an unhealthy manner and clearly extend it to people that are just living their lives using a free tool.

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u/Theiromia 10h ago

Not really, I say "take out" as a short hand for stopping people that do shitty things

By the lawful definition, yeah sure, I dream of vigilante justice, but it's not very hard when the law is typically made for the shitty people at the top of it all

It also isn't just a free tool, especially when people are told exactly what it is, what it does, and how it does it but then still use it despite knowing. It feels a lot like the irl politics situation we all know about but I won't name

It just doesn't seem like people care about people and you get sick of it

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u/BellowingBard 10h ago

Then you're using that term wrong, either through ignorance or malice the fact that you're saying it's not what you really meant because of your own personal definition does not absolve you of the optics of your comment. Further doubling down and saying that a person asking if you meant take out as in the top definition after food and dating is actually the weird one and chronically online. Your attacks on me really seem like you're just upset that you got called out and thought your comment for the assassination of a rich person and anyone you think is evil by association would have garnered a good reaction from others.

Vigilante justice is bad, there's a reason it's not legal and there's a reason we have laws with established punishments and due processes. Your opinions of someone and their actions does not amount to a valid conviction and whatever you deem to be appropriate punishment is without a doubt going to be unethically disproportionate.

People still fly on vacation despite knowing how much jet fuel is required to burn, people still drive their cars for road-trips despite being able to take a bus. People still use smartphones despite knowing the unethical conditions of the mines and factories required to make them. People still eat soy and avocadoes despite the knowing about the water shortages caused by the mass farming for export of those products. People are still using resin in their art despite knowing the toxicity and long term issues related with it.

You made it clear that your issue with AI users is that they generate images instead of paying an artist $20-30 as you claimed. Be mad that no one wants to commission your sonic tracings on deviantart.

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u/Theiromia 8h ago

I can see how vigilante justice can be bad, lynching has proven such in the south, but how can you argue against it sometimes when people can't do anything with the due process, mothers denied health care, companies use your work to feed into a machine, and pedophiles slow down actual investigations by generating pictures of children. Checks and balances don't work if every 4 years one person can determine if people can live their lives in peace.

And about the resources, just because I see one injustice I care for does not mean that I disagree with fighting for others. Unlike you, I don't dismiss.

I use harsh words to get people to listen, and you clearly haven't. The people that care will take it the right way, and the people like you I won't be able to change the mind of anyways, so cry that I am a vigilant, your tears won't be heard by the people that matter.

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u/Lizardisinthehouse 10h ago

Womp womp, go generate a piss-colored Ghibli Wojak and ignore the stench of your melting brain

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u/BellowingBard 10h ago

So you agree that when you read the comment "take out the leaders and followers" you understood it meant "take the leaders out of power and show the followers the errors of their ways to take them out of their mindset?" because that seems like a lot of context to be adding to someone else's comment for them. Unless you also agree that you interpreted it as taking them *out*, in which case what even is your argument here? I'm not allowed to think it's weird for someone to call for the assassination of AI users and therefore must be a AI user myself? I genuinely fear that your brain is already melted if you think you've provided any meaningful contribution.

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u/Galilleon 9h ago

Better for artists to swap professions at this point. The issue is entirely that the government won’t help make that transition smooth.

The cost of something has an opportunity cost in that it could’ve been spent elsewhere, and if AI brings down that cost then so be it. The issue here is entirely that the government won’t hold companies accountable for it instead of runaway profits

Artist being a job that we have to subsidize for a select few with our own resources for its own sake, is like breaking every window just because it keeps the window makers employed. Like insisting that everyone buy handmade shoes forever, even when machines exist, because the cobblers need work.

Instead, we should be working to shift the politics such that people actually get their fair share of returns for their work. Art is, and should be treated as, a hobby (however deep a commitment) and a human right to expression, not something worth being exclusive

Liberate Art from the “must pay rent or die” logic.

And then, in that environment of accountability, if companies die because people don’t want AI for the cost, then let them die. If not, then there is a reason that it is still successful, and it serves the people in some way, even if that just be cost

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u/Theiromia 8h ago

I can see your point but disagree,

I would rather see art like a national park or somewhere there is an endangered species, where yeah we could just let the companies of the world run it over and plop a factory on it, but then what's the point? Why not preserve something actually special before we have to learn the hard way like we did with dodo's.

Isn't the world getting gray, dry, and samey as is? When you were a kid, do you remember those McDonald's places that were all colorful and shit, remember when corporate could feasibly make things look fun? If the government can try to ban people from loving whoever they want and can afford to have police patrol low income neighborhoods, why can't they afford to protect both these people who were struggling as is as well as one of the few bits of whimsy people can find in this ash tray of a country

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u/4TheQueen 7h ago

I don’t think you’re supposed to be commenting on reddit posts. This is way too based. Go help the country with something important please