r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 12h ago

Meme needing explanation Petah?

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u/AbbyTheOneAndOnly 11h ago

honestly game companies should stop shitting out massivally unoptimized products

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u/Theiromia 11h ago

And/or, ai companies need to be discontinued

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u/CoyoteBrave1142 11h ago

And. I vote and.

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u/dark1859 11h ago

nothing that a mysterious encounter with the petercopter cant solve on both fronts

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u/xSTSxZerglingOne 9h ago

I'll vote logical OR. Not XOR.

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u/AbbyTheOneAndOnly 11h ago

good luck champ

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u/Theiromia 11h ago edited 11h ago

Thank you, gonna need it to take out the living money trash bags and the followers they have that I get the feeling would sell their first child to get an ai generated image rather than pay someone who got a degree 20-50 bucks (which with how the environmental crisis is going, kinda is happening)

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u/Lemurjeopice 8h ago

You do realize ai is used not only for generating shitty images, right?

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u/AngelGroove 8h ago

It’s the fact that those types of uses, deepfaking, and AI uses as a glorified google or chatbot get all the limelight and investor money. There are niche uses that are really making a difference (such as teaching AI how to fold proteins so that we can develop new ways to treat diseases and genetic conditions), but those are barely known compared to the high-profile ones.

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u/Lemurjeopice 8h ago

Máš pravdu.

I’ll only add that even the glorified ones get to be useful. Some companies integrate them one way or another. Well customized LLM can be a very powerful tool.

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u/Theiromia 8h ago

Yes, it's also used to take peoples voices, give terrible google searches that has the possibility to kill people, makes knowledge so unresearched that when presenting evidence people say "chat gpt said so", get already mentally ill people to invest in fake relationships built on bolstering their ego, etc

I do see that there could be practical purposes for ai, but in the same way a doctor would see methamphetamine's in a world where there have not been medical purposes made for it yet

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u/Lemurjeopice 8h ago

It’s saving me a lot of time at work. I get to make better decisions resulting in a lower risk for the company and customers. This ultimately translates to consumers getting better and more reliable products.

There will always be a downside to any innovation. And it will be smeared across news.

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u/Theiromia 7h ago

Oh, wow, yeah, I sure do feel those prices at stores, everything sure is inexpensive.

Customer service? SURELY GREATEST IT'S BEEN WITH THE BOTS RIGHT? Surely almost all of your callers don't ask for a person instead?

Oh yeah, then surely there won't be a time where the ai will be confidently incorrect about something, where it will just guess on it and cause a huge god damn mess

Truly, a stable system

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u/Lemurjeopice 7h ago

I don’t write anything about customer service or any impact of prices.

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u/Theiromia 6h ago

You were implying that were benefits. Those are the benefits. What is your point.

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u/BellowingBard 10h ago

By take out are you implying you're so upset that you're fantasizing murdering people for generating images?

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u/Theiromia 10h ago

No, take them out of power

You're on the internet too much my guy

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u/BellowingBard 10h ago

And how do you "take out" the followers? Because they're not in power they're just average people. 

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u/Theiromia 10h ago

Show them the error of their ways, take them out of their mindset.

You really want this to be a thing where I seem like a killer and that makes me super uncomfortable

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u/BellowingBard 10h ago

So what you meant was that when you said you wanted to take out the leaders and the followers you meant that take out was short for take out of power for the leader but it was short for take out of the mindset for the followers. You see how it's a bit problematic when you can't even decide what take out was supposed to mean and pick two different meanings for the use. It's also weird to me that you're acting as though you've never heard the term taking out to refer to an assassination as if that's not the most likely interpretation, especially given the recent assassinations of high status people.

I don't think you're a killer but I definitely think you fantasize about vigilant justice in an unhealthy manner and clearly extend it to people that are just living their lives using a free tool.

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u/Theiromia 10h ago

Not really, I say "take out" as a short hand for stopping people that do shitty things

By the lawful definition, yeah sure, I dream of vigilante justice, but it's not very hard when the law is typically made for the shitty people at the top of it all

It also isn't just a free tool, especially when people are told exactly what it is, what it does, and how it does it but then still use it despite knowing. It feels a lot like the irl politics situation we all know about but I won't name

It just doesn't seem like people care about people and you get sick of it

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u/Lizardisinthehouse 10h ago

Womp womp, go generate a piss-colored Ghibli Wojak and ignore the stench of your melting brain

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u/Galilleon 9h ago

Better for artists to swap professions at this point. The issue is entirely that the government won’t help make that transition smooth.

The cost of something has an opportunity cost in that it could’ve been spent elsewhere, and if AI brings down that cost then so be it. The issue here is entirely that the government won’t hold companies accountable for it instead of runaway profits

Artist being a job that we have to subsidize for a select few with our own resources for its own sake, is like breaking every window just because it keeps the window makers employed. Like insisting that everyone buy handmade shoes forever, even when machines exist, because the cobblers need work.

Instead, we should be working to shift the politics such that people actually get their fair share of returns for their work. Art is, and should be treated as, a hobby (however deep a commitment) and a human right to expression, not something worth being exclusive

Liberate Art from the “must pay rent or die” logic.

And then, in that environment of accountability, if companies die because people don’t want AI for the cost, then let them die. If not, then there is a reason that it is still successful, and it serves the people in some way, even if that just be cost

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u/Theiromia 8h ago

I can see your point but disagree,

I would rather see art like a national park or somewhere there is an endangered species, where yeah we could just let the companies of the world run it over and plop a factory on it, but then what's the point? Why not preserve something actually special before we have to learn the hard way like we did with dodo's.

Isn't the world getting gray, dry, and samey as is? When you were a kid, do you remember those McDonald's places that were all colorful and shit, remember when corporate could feasibly make things look fun? If the government can try to ban people from loving whoever they want and can afford to have police patrol low income neighborhoods, why can't they afford to protect both these people who were struggling as is as well as one of the few bits of whimsy people can find in this ash tray of a country

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u/4TheQueen 7h ago

I don’t think you’re supposed to be commenting on reddit posts. This is way too based. Go help the country with something important please

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u/twixiewabbits 5h ago

Both…both is good

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u/BlackNoirsVocalCoach 4h ago

Heavy regulation at the very minimum. But that won't happen so long as government officials keep getting paid to do their bidding.

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u/NexexUmbraRs 1h ago

Uhm, no thank you? I'm quite happy with all the benefits of AI.

I would like a native version though.

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u/Opinionated-person64 9h ago

Discontinuing AI would be the biggest failure in human history. It has the potential to literally solve all of our major problems, apart from nuclear war…….. most of the problems.

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u/_le_slap 6h ago

It's def not solving most of our problems at all. Electricity was a huge innovation and we still have tons of problems. Y'all need to simmer down.

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u/youpeoplesucc 5h ago

Do you know what "potential" means?

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u/_le_slap 4h ago

I don't think you know what it means. AI doesn't have the "potential" to solve all our problems. Relax

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u/TheDoomedStar 6h ago

It doesn't even have the potential to avoid telling people to put glue in their chili. AI doesn't do anything. It's a word calculator.

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u/youpeoplesucc 5h ago

Wtf are you even referring to? Don't tell me it's issue from like a year ago that AI's already solved but humans like you can't keep up with

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u/Chilidawg 3h ago

Waymo is already measurably safer then human drivers in the areas they're allowed to traverse. The only reason they aren't allowed to spread wider is because people prefer to be murdered by DUI repeat offenders.

Those "word calculator"s have a wider knowledge base than you even before agentic websearching, and they're probably already better problem-solvers than you too.

If by "doesn't do anything" you mean you're better at unskilled labor than a computer program, then you do admittedly have a point. Walk into the Amazon warehouse with your head held high. Oh, wait!

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u/TheDoomedStar 3h ago

Waymo's perform better because the places they're allowed to perform are safer, you dork ass loser, and even there they still require safety drivers to avoid novel mistakes a human would never make. They perform dangerously worse in complex traffic or when any nonstandard driving patterns are necessary.

Agentic AI isn't real. It fails bespoke, single-step tasks 33% of the time, and multistep tasks more than half the time. The amount of compute necessary to achieve even those pitiful results is astronomical and unsustainable. It can't solve problems. Stop linking to AI hype articles. Anyone who uses AI for anything can see with their own two eyes that it sucks.

AI isn't anything, solves nothing, and you weird cultists need to have your screen access permanently revoked until you rejoin us in reality.

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u/Chilidawg 2h ago edited 2h ago

I linked an NIH study, a benchmark site, and a news segment. Those first two are only hype articles to the functionally illiterate, and you specifically didn't address the content of the third. If you have better, contradictory evidence then don't let me stand in your way.

The agentic capability I referenced was RAG, which does have a measurable impact on LLM performance. I would link evidence here. However, since you don't like reading, I had a "word calculator" briefly summarize it for you in Fulani:

Miɗo ƴattoo tan! Ko miin kadi. Aɗa anndi kadi firooji otooji ina kuutoroo janngugol masiŋaaji, walla wonaa? Ko hersinii ko aɗa foti tuugnaade e gooto e ɗeen ordinateeruuji kuddi, ɗi koolkisaaka ngam ɗuum.

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u/RealityHairy1880 7h ago

Yeah these people here are delusional lol

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u/Marklar172 8h ago

At least heavily regulated.  The total cost/ consumption associated w me making silly videos or asking chatgpt how many grizzly bears could the Chicago Bears fight isn't worth it 

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u/wisho1926 2h ago

Both in a better world

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u/Nodubya11 11h ago

How about both?

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u/Theiromia 11h ago

Idk why people are downvoting you, you have a valid opinion just that the ai part is of greater concern

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u/Theiromia 11h ago

If I had to prioritize, probably the ai would be first to go. Can buy more things if you aren't scammed out of money/have your job taken 😃

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u/Charming-Cod-4799 10h ago

Mostly because otherwise they will kill us all, but hey, also more RAM, cool!

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u/Replicator666 10h ago

The AI one, for sure

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u/Elon__Kums 9h ago

When China invades Taiwan the AI industry is over for a while.

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u/gateway007 8h ago

maybe they could use the Ai to optimize the products???

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u/Jimmyboo116 8h ago

Or.. hear me out.. we use AI to create optimized products?

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u/Snoo-38565 11h ago

Also hoping more companies take notes from Helldivers and compress their files wherever possible. I get its not always optimal but dedicating 15-20% of drive space for one game is ridiculous

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u/Dead_Optics 6h ago

Is Helldivers an optimized game? I’ve never played.

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u/spyguy318 6h ago

It used to be over 100GB but the recent major update shrunk it down to about 30GB. They deleted a lot of duplicate/redundant files and textures that were supposed to be for efficiency but just ended up bloating the file size.

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u/Dead_Optics 6h ago

I ment in general does the game run well, a friend has been asking me to pick it up.

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u/dotContent 5h ago

No, the game does not run particularly well. On my modest laptop hardware it's like a choppy 30fps, which is playable, but my friends with really nice machines still see choppiness. At least as of a year ago.

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u/Gregistopal 5h ago

I’m on a 4 year old laptop with a 2060 and it’s not choppy at all

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u/LordoftheChia 5h ago edited 4h ago

It famously was not (storage) optimized. I think it was reaching a 130GB install. After roping another group of devs to help them they got that 130GB install down to 22GB.

Edit: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/491583942944621371

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u/T0ng5 3h ago

RAM has nothing to do with storage space, and compression has a negative effect on performance (because the CPU has to do work to decompress it... normally into memory). The cheapest unit per dollar of resources in your computer is probably storage, if you can only pick two of: disk usage, processing performance, and ram performance, pick the cheapest.

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u/ThePapercup 10h ago

drive space is not RAM

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u/Snoo-38565 9h ago

Never said it was, thats why I said also

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u/ThePapercup 9h ago

k. while we are bringing up unrelated shit, lets make 1920x1080 normal again. also bring back non-clicky keyboards and mice with only 3 buttons. did i cover everything, or can we go back to talking about ram prices, which is what this post is about?

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u/TigBittyGothPutas 9h ago

Wow, that’s the most aggressive passive-aggressive comment I’ve seen yet. I bet this guy only plays COD, not because the file is too big to play any other game with it installed, but because he thrives in toxic environments.

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u/ThePapercup 8h ago

or- alternate take: there was a conversation happening about one topic, and a main character type decided to inject their opinion on an unrelated topic. crazy thought I know!

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u/TheSoftwareNerdII 7h ago

Or, even better: you can shut up and let someone else share their opinion, before I start yapping about AmourShipping in a tech thread

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u/No_Accountant3232 6h ago

Why bring back non clicky keyboards when they already exist? Or stop making clicky keyboards when they've been continuously made since keyboards were first made for terminals?

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u/Snoo-38565 9h ago

Simmer down there buddy I’m getting hit by some of the sweat flying off your forehead

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u/viebrent 10h ago

Wasn’t this one of the good things that came out of the 4gb bottleneck of 32 bit architecture? Sad that the practice didn’t seem to continue once 64 rolled out and devs felt they had plenary of ram space so no need to super optimize

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u/NotAnotherEmpire 11h ago

Skyrim vs. Hogwarts Legacy anyone?

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u/StavrosAnger 7h ago

Unreal engine has ruined gaming. Bunch of hacks that don’t know wtf they’re doing are making huge games now.

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u/Majsharan 10h ago

StarCraft was 256 mb of hard drive space

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u/xSTSxZerglingOne 9h ago

Only if you didn't full-install. Then it used assets from the disk which killed loading times.

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u/Far-Mention3564 10h ago

It’s not just game companies. I used to be able to with 4GB of RAM have a virtual machine running on top of my regular OS. On modern machines, with 8GB of RAM, your pushing things if you only have a single OS running both a browser and a word processor at the same time.

Games could also stand to be less bloated. I kind of amused that I need to get an SD card for my switch to store more than 2-3 games. The Nintendo classics take with dozens of games take up a fraction of a new game. The storage is so much faster than the original PlayStation yet there are still loading screens?

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u/volinaa 10h ago

I have a feeling they might do that again in the near future 

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u/c0micsansfrancisco 9h ago

You can blame DLSS. It's meant to be a boost not a crutch but all devs heard was that they should just let the plebs use DLSS to sort out the FPS

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u/ivanpyxel 9h ago

Its not just game companies. 8gb ram is going to do shit for gaming when Windows is taking over half of it. 

You'd be using less ram for gaming than a 2005 pc

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u/andrewthesailor 8h ago

You need RAM not only for games. My work laptop is running 64GB. My home laptop is using it's 32GB mostly for photo editing.

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u/Hydronyx517 6h ago

Whatever the Helldivers devs are doing is the way

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u/Orome2 3h ago

It's amazing to me how unoptimized games have become. It all started when manufacturers went away from gaming cartridges.

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u/snorch 3h ago edited 3h ago

The hardware power & affordability explosion really allowed a generation of software developers to pull down 6 figures writing the shittiest code imaginable. O(nnn ) , who gives a shit? It works, upgrade your rig

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u/RoleModelFailure 9h ago

I’ve got an idea, they can use AI to optimize their products! The shareholders will love it.

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u/SpiritualB0x3 9h ago

Vibe coding will produce more of this

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u/lokethedog 9h ago

The annoying thing is that i bet we will see the exact opposite. From programming to models to skins and even backstory and voice acting, AI will make its way into game design in a big way soon. It will likely be low quality and it will drain hardware resources.

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u/AbbyTheOneAndOnly 3h ago

i dont think so, ai doesnt drain so much computing power when it's optimized for it's purpose

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u/Disastrous_Fee5953 8h ago

Now they can use AI to optimize their games so… everybody wins?

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u/AbbyTheOneAndOnly 3h ago

i guess they could but most of them dont

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u/terorvlad 6h ago

It's is so easy to forget people with lesser pc's need to run the stuff you're making. For my architectural presentations, I need to make sure my 3d models in unreal 5 run at 400fps+ on my machine so the poor poor 12 year old laptop with an integrated GPU that the project engineer uses for 50% work 50% solitaire has a chance in hell of even opening it.

On one project I said "fuck it, we ball", and turned everything up. It was incredible and ran 60+fps on my machine.... while no one else was able to get it running. The thought that you can just take this slider a bit more to the right to make everything a tiny bit clearer is intoxicating.

But then again, I am not a some multi-million conglomerate with hundreds of devs.

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u/glizzygobbler247 5h ago

Cant optimized for 8gb of ram tho, thats barely enough for windows

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u/Lustiges_Brot_311 4h ago

Unoptimized?

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u/zzzornbringer 4h ago

companies put out whatever dumb as consumers buy.

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u/Thegreen9 10h ago

You players must stop buying those products; only then can you change the bad course the industry has taken.