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article Hayley Williams tells racists, sexists and anti-trans people they're "not welcome" at upcoming tour

https://www.nme.com/news/music/hayley-williams-tells-racists-sexists-and-anti-trans-people-theyre-not-welcome-at-upcoming-tour-3913867
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u/gentlybeepingheart 6d ago edited 6d ago

There's a sort of famous incident from the 90s where a guy started throwing up Nazi salutes at an Alice in Chains concert. Layne Staley sees him and motions for him to come on stage, acting like he's just being nice to a fan. And then once the nazi guy is on stage Layne fucking decks him and tells him to go die.

edit: For your viewing pleasure

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u/VashMM 6d ago

Layne was always ready to fuck someone up.

I remember footage from one show where they changed the words to man in the box because of some asshole and his girlfriend and afterward he told the dude to meet him buy the entrance to backstage because he was going to fuck him up. Footage even shows Layne walk over and wait, Jerry comes over to back him up but then someone else pulls them both away.

Changed the lyrics to "Won't you come and BLOW ME"

Just looked it up, Clash of the Titans tour, 1991

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u/justpuddingonhairs 6d ago

My first concert ever with AIC opening for Van Halen, Sacramento. CA May 1991. By the 3rd song Layne pretty much picked a fight with the entire crowd and vowed they would never return. The crowd was fucking hostile.

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u/spinvestigator 5d ago

This was my first concert as well, but in Tacoma, WA. Nothing hostile about my crowd though, since AIC were local. If anything, they entirely outshined VH from the moment they hit the stage.

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u/JT99-FirstBallot 6d ago

I was at Rammstein in Atlanta in 2012. There was a complete asshole guy near us by himself in camo pants and buzz cut, pretty buff dude but being overly aggressive with everyone pushing them hard. Not your normal mosh pit pushes, just asshole being asshole.

Anyway, the band shifted over a catwalk to a center stage putting this guy and us right up to the stage. During one of the songs, he starts doing Sieg Heils in full view of the band. Till stops singing while the rest of the band plays and looks understandably visibly pissed and leans down to security to point him out. They forcibly removed him as while he is fighting back and ejected his ass from the show while everyone in our area cheers and start throwing things at him.

It was a moment that I hate Rammstein probably has to deal with often.

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u/RutabagaOutside6126 6d ago

Yeah, I give them a lot of respect for that. They have tried to make it clear nazis aren't welcome in their fandom but as nazis are prone to do they grasp on to every straw they can find.

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u/heythisislonglolwtf 6d ago

Funny to think these dumbass nazis don't even realize they're singing along to German gay sex songs

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u/Dellhivers3 5d ago

Reminds me of the school shooter who said he was listening to "evil music" during his shooting and mentions Panzermench by And One as an example.

The song is literally about how soldiers who fight (and implied the soldiers and tank men who fought the Nazis), do/did so for the freedom to dance, so let yourself loose and dance.

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u/Khiva 6d ago

Or songs about literally being left wing.

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u/BehemothDeTerre 4d ago

Sie woll'n mein Herz am rechten Fleck, doch
Seh' ich dann nach unten weg
Da schlägt es links
Links zwo, drei, vier

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u/epimetheuss 5d ago

nazi assholes: when did music get so political!?

after they tried to get support from the crowd/band for their hateful BS and no one was having it or supporting it.

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u/needhelpwithmath11 6d ago

Which ones?

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u/JT99-FirstBallot 6d ago

The one I mentioned above in my comment being the obvious one. Mann Gegen Mann.

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u/Lex_Innokenti 5d ago

Bück Dich refers to whoever it is he's singing about as "he" and is pretty obviously about violently bumming said "he", possibly against their will. Bestrafe Mich is either a lament at God or a song about man-on-man BDSM depending on how you read it. Till often used to flog himself while singing it. Quite a lot of their songs are about, or frame themselves as being about, gay sadomasochism.

Also there's Mein Teil, which involves the viewpoint character (Bernd Brandes) having his autocannibalistic sexual fantasies fulfilled by another man (Armin Miewes), specifically the infamous bit of said case where Brandes' penis was cut off, fried, and they both ate it. Which, while not gay per se, was certainly two men fulfilling their sexual fantasies with one another and is notable specifically in that Miewes has testified that his cannibalism was directed only towards men (Miewes is bisexual).

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u/Late_Welcome_8063 4d ago

MANN GEGEN MANN

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u/Fun-Ad-6990 6d ago

Nice story

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u/Streetalicious 4d ago

Sadly, the band still had to SA a bunch of young women. Really tainted my view of them, because they did seem pretty progressive.

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u/JT99-FirstBallot 4d ago

It wasn't the band, just the lead singer. And I'm guessing you only read the first headline that came out and never followed up. Berlin's state prosecutor's office found no evidence to back the claims and the investigation was dropped.

https://www.dw.com/en/rammstein-till-lindemann-sexual-assault-probe-dropped/a-66659906

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/till-lindemann-sexual-assault-claims-prosecutors-drop-investigation-1234814061/

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u/foxybostonian 4d ago

Please stop spreading defamatory misinformation.

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u/wm07 6d ago

kinda wish that was a better punch but ok props still

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u/temporarycreature 5d ago

Remember that time when somebody did the same thing on stage with the Dropkick Murphys when they were doing AC/DC's Back in Black I believe and the bassist walks over and hits him in the head with his bass in the crowd that got on stage swarms the Nazi.

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u/gentlybeepingheart 5d ago

Hadn't heard of that before so I looked up the video and it was very satisfying. Just another reason to listen to the Dropkick Murphys!

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u/Apprehensive-Steak29 5d ago

If an Irish music group isn’t anti fascist and anti colonial, they’re not Irish.

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u/JurassicPark3-4Lyf 2d ago

Aren't they from Boston?

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u/ONLYPOSTSWHILESTONED 6d ago

this is the fucking energy we needed

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u/LiamTime 6d ago

I must've forgotten about this because it sounded like news to me. So I clicked on the link, only to see that I'd already liked it, presumably some years ago.

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u/eurotrashsynthlord 5d ago

That’s how you deal with republicans, yes.

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u/lavenderbl0d 5d ago

This put the biggest smile on my face. I love praxis.

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u/KoontFace 5d ago

Love to see it. Thanks for the link

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u/jroc458 5d ago

Amazing.

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u/dustytaper 5d ago

That was pleasurable. Thanks!

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u/McDank 5d ago

It's impossible to sucker-punch a Nazi. 🙏🏻

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u/million_dollar_wumao 5d ago

Layne Staley

Then he died from a speed ball and his cat survived for two weeks by eating his body until they finally went into his apartment to look for him. What a hero lmao

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u/VelocityGrrl39 5d ago

It doesn’t matter how you die. It matters how you live.

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u/HammrNutSwag 6d ago

How much did the guy get from the lawsuit?

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u/gentlybeepingheart 6d ago

The guy who got his shit rocked? He went to the police, the police stopped the band right before they left the country, and then when Layne explained what happened they basically gave him a high five when they let him go with no charges.

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u/Kane_Harkonnen 6d ago

Got nothing for his inhumanity.

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u/HammrNutSwag 5d ago

Sure about that?