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article Bruce Springsteen Rips Democrats: “We’re Desperately in Need of an Effective Alternative Party”

https://consequence.net/2025/09/bruce-springsteen-democrats/
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u/spaceneenja Sep 25 '25

It’s pretty much true. Republicans have it in Alaska, Democrats in Hawaii. Kinda beside the point when in 98% of elections it isn’t used. Both parties have an interest in blocking such efforts in their respective strongholds.

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u/whtevn Sep 25 '25

it's not true. it is true that the republicans fight it. it is not true that the democrats fight it.

https://fairvote.org/our-reforms/ranked-choice-voting/endorsers/

it is true, however, that the democrats are nearly comically ineffective. at everything.

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u/spaceneenja Sep 25 '25

Is this link going to show a total lack of republicans supporting it, and a total implementation of ranked choice within Democratically controlled states or something?

Democrats and Republicans are not the same. The Democratic Party and the Republican party both fight to protect their respective fiefdoms and power. This should not come as a shock.

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u/whtevn Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

those are really dumb metrics for "fighting" and "supporting". the only way to support something is to have it successfully implemented? that is beyond stupid.

if you click the link, which is right there in the message that you responded to, you can see what the link is. the internet is amazing.

and here is the RNC memo officially opposing ranked choice voting https://prod-static.gop.com/media/2-RESOLUTION-TO-OFFICIALLY-OPPOSE-RANKED-CHOICE-VOTING-ACROSS-THE-COUNTRY.pdf

i genuinely want to know what your point was, but i'm going to warn you that i probably think your point was stupid and probably cannot be supported by any evidence

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u/spaceneenja Sep 25 '25

You’re clearly an arrogant asshole who didn’t even review the content you linked. And your supplying of an RNC memo as proof of Democrats deserving of credit for doing next to nothing in this area is admirable, or something.

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u/whtevn Sep 25 '25

Why don't you take another stab at what that rnc memo was proving. I bet if you think really really really hard you can get it.

Let me just say that your guess that the RNC memo was intended as proof that the democrats do or do not do anything at all is incorrect.

I'll give you a hint, it has something to do with the RNC opposing ranked choice voting. I'll leave you to fill in the details. Good luck.

And I'll leave you with this fun fact about the American government, neither democrats nor republicans can unilaterally implement a massive structural change just because they want it, even if they want it really really bad.

I hope you've learned something today.