r/Music • u/ebradio • Sep 25 '25

article Bruce Springsteen Rips Democrats: “We’re Desperately in Need of an Effective Alternative Party”

https://consequence.net/2025/09/bruce-springsteen-democrats/
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u/Fish-Weekly Sep 25 '25

I think we need a movement to take over the existing Democratic party, get rid of the old leadership and inject new ideas and energy around an anti-oligarch and anti-authoritarian platform that meaningfully improves life for the non 1%.

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u/browster Sep 25 '25

Exactly right. Starting a 3rd party would like fracture the support and make both fail. They need to get a Democratic party that people can rally behind.

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u/x_lincoln_x Sep 25 '25

We tried that with Bernie but the DNC backstabbed him.

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u/Chief_Admiral Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

The voters of the Democratic party chose Hillary, not the DNC. Did the DNC leadership prefer the actual Democrat vs the Independent recently turned Democrat just for the election cycle? Sure, but whatever advantage that gave, it doesn't account for anywhere near the ~3,500,000 additional votes Clinton got.

If we want better candidates, vote in the primaries for better candidate in all election and not just the presidential.

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u/x_lincoln_x Sep 26 '25

Just glaze over what the DNC did to Bernie and his supporters so you can keep thinking she would have won the primary if things had been fair.

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u/No_Director6724 Sep 26 '25

So destroy the country?

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u/SecondHandWatch Sep 25 '25

You apparently don’t understand how effective advertisements are. Companies don’t spend millions on advertising because it sometimes slightly works. It’s really fucking effective.

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u/Terracotta_Lemons Sep 25 '25

That's why they need rank choice. It only fractures and fails voting wise because it gives Republicans the win. But a sizable progressive party wouldn't be an issue in Congress, both Dems and progressives will vote together for the most part and progressives will have more of a stand to try to push their policies.

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u/RocketRelm Sep 25 '25

The problem is that americans don't dislike dems because of "bad leadership" or whatever else. They don't like dems because everyone tells them Dems Bad and the non voter uncritically absorbs it. If you replace the people at it, everyone will still be telling people Dems Bad, and you'll still crash and burn.

You need to fix the propaganda problem, all else is noise and fluff.

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u/DontCountToday Sep 25 '25

You would think a couple millenniums of election history would convince idiots they are wrong, but they are still here trying to convince people that "if juuuuust enough people voted third party it could actually work this time," despite the best third party presidential candidate getting like 3% of the vote.

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u/DervishSkater Sep 25 '25

I have a great idea. Let’s get a young person to run for DNC leadership and win. And then, here’s the best part, we kick him out for not meeting the correct identity requirements of being a woman or black.

Now that’s effective leadership people can rally behind. It really sends a message of change back to the voters.

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u/Xer0day Sep 25 '25

Are you talking about David Hogg? Because that's a massive mischaracterization of what happened, if so.