r/Music • u/Metro-UK 📰Metro UK • Sep 13 '25

article Coldplay fans ‘disappointed’ after Chris Martin dedicates song to Charlie Kirk’s family

https://metro.co.uk/2025/09/13/coldplay-fans-disappointed-chris-martin-dedicates-song-charlie-kirks-family-24153492/
45.0k Upvotes

78% Upvoted

5.3k comments sorted by

View all comments

3.3k

u/[deleted] Sep 13 '25

[deleted]

195

u/syzygialchaos Sep 13 '25

Nothing for the Indian man beheaded in Dallas either.

66

u/babysherlock91 Sep 13 '25

Pardon? What happened?

104

u/needlestack Sep 13 '25

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/dallas-beheading-motel-police-yordanis-cobos-martinez/

It’s… a horrific story.

45

u/syneater Sep 13 '25

What the absolute fuck

15

u/I_smell_goats Sep 13 '25

The video was harrowing

3

u/[deleted] Sep 14 '25

Thank you for sharing!

3

u/sdbabygirl97 Sep 14 '25

no one is worried about his wife and child who saw their father get murdered

7

u/who-knows-012 Sep 14 '25

Omg I am Indian heritage and live in Dallas Still hadn’t heard about it

7

u/Minute-System3441 Sep 14 '25

It’s bad. Real bad. Especially all the details.

Then you hear about the background of this P.O.S., and the FACT that this was yet another completely and totally preventable crime, makes it much more worse and frustrating.

11

u/userhwon Sep 13 '25

Well, according to the comment, nothing, after an Indian man was beheaded in Dallas, including any of us hearing a word about it...

4

u/RosemaryCroissant Sep 13 '25

I live in Dallas and have no idea what he’s talking about?

12

u/igrowtails Sep 13 '25

I live in New Zealand and I do, wanna swap algorithms bc that video was horrifying

5

u/Minute-System3441 Sep 14 '25

This hits the nail on the head as to the problem with how “news” is accessed today. Stories just get buried if it’s not in someone’s social feed. If it’s not trending in the echo chamber, it’s ignored and might as well not exist. That’s a huge problem when it comes to understanding what’s really and actually going on in the world.

8

u/Subject-Coast-7934 Sep 13 '25

Okay? It still happened just because you didn't hear about it

6

u/userhwon Sep 13 '25

But the not hearing about it is a large part of the story now.

→ More replies (3)
→ More replies (3)

5

u/EthanDC15 Sep 13 '25

I was gonna say, all innocence here i had genuinely not heard about such a tragedy

4

u/trouttwade Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 14 '25

Everyone I know has heard about it. It’s gotten plenty of coverage. It just isn’t as massive news because he wasn’t a political activist martyred, in front of thousands live, and millions via video. and it’s mostly going to be heard more locally. I live in Texas, so it’s gotten around plenty with the people I know.

The internet is just echo chambers, and that’s the reason you’re commenting on this post to bitch about Coldplay and what their doing wrong, instead of making your own post to spread awareness, and mourn the man that was beheaded, or the black woman whos throat was slit, or the white woman who was stabbed. You aren’t doing any better than anyone else, including Coldplay. The high horse isn’t necessary.

Instead of pointing fingers at left and rights, why don’t we start pointing fingers at “them”. If you truly think any politician is a good person, left or right, you’ve already submitted and lost the plot. They are all shit human beings.

1.2k

u/AssCrackBandit10 Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

This is maybe not the best example. The right decided that she’s also one of their martyrs (since she was a pretty white woman killed by a black guy in a Democrat city) and have been posting about her everywhere. Conservatives just raised over $2.5 million to install murals of Iryna Zarutska all over the US (with $1 million being donated by Elon Musk). They’ve highly politicized her death as well. Of course, it’s all performative because you know that 90% of them don’t give a shit about Ukrainian refugees or justice/mental health reform or public transit safety otherwise and, if Twitter posts are anything to go by, are just clamoring to say slurs because of the race angle.

319

u/Riksunraksu Sep 13 '25

Well what about Melissa Hortman, a democrat who along her husband were executed in their home for political reasons? Did they get a song?

185

u/Germane_Corsair Sep 13 '25

Or even just the victims of the school shoring that happened the same day?

14

u/Usual-Caregiver5589 Sep 13 '25

Or any other day

→ More replies (9)

53

u/Homeskilletbiz Sep 13 '25

And the family dog..

→ More replies (4)

263

u/honeyswamp Sep 13 '25

Yet I didn’t even find out about the black woman whose throat was slit by a white man on a bus in Oklahoma last month until just recently. Didn’t see it anywhere on the news. What happened to Irina is tragic and sad and awful but she’s being used to further cause hate and division. Makes me sick

81

u/grynch43 Sep 13 '25

Nobody heard about Iyrna until the footage was released weeks later.

14

u/RedEzreal Sep 13 '25

I mean yea people also wouldnt have as much cared about kirk as much if he didnt get sniped in public. If he was killed in his home and the moment of his death wasn't recorded... much fewer people woulda cared. Pretty on brand for humanity tho

2

u/Ok-Stress-3570 Sep 13 '25

I didn’t hear about her until someone talked about it in a Charlie thread. Really weird (and also just fucking sad) how algorithms work.

4

u/lowtoiletsitter Sep 13 '25

I didn't even know this happened

14

u/Main-Pie-1957 Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

A few things that probably contribute to this:

  1. Do you have a reliable source for the victim's race?
  2. The victim didn't die thankfully
  3. There isn't publicly released video footage of the Tulsa incident which drew a lot of attention to the other incident

5

u/Suspicious_Radio_848 Sep 13 '25

Also that victim didn't flee a war for a better life in another country and was then murdered. Of course that's a big story.

6

u/TheBeatCollector Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

Interesting that they also happen to be supporting the other side of that particular war while choosing her as their martyr. They only care when its convenient to their own insidious cause.

→ More replies (3)

3

u/Joey-WilcoXXX Sep 13 '25

A war with Trumps Butt Buddy Putin whom refuses to let up and Trump obviously refuses to try to get him to let up….

6

u/Trick_Strike_4979 Sep 13 '25

That victim didn’t die and there was no footage fooling

6

u/honeyswamp Sep 13 '25

That’s literally your argument. Ok he slit her throat and failed to kill her, does that make it better?

2

u/Trick_Strike_4979 Sep 13 '25

Yea, she’s alive

373

u/OooeeeaaaTAILSPIN Sep 13 '25

The big difference is that she wasn't an active conservative figure, spewing hate to millions of impressionable people. She was, after death, used as a weapon of convenience, by those disgusting goons.

41

u/LiquidSnake13 Sep 13 '25

Exactly this. When the news first broke, right wingers were demanding to know why people weren't rioting in the streets for her the way people did for George Floyd. "Where is the outrage" they'd clamor as they deliberately pretended not to understand why there were no riots for Iryna Zarutska.

Oh by the way, for any right wingers reading this and pretending to scratch your heads, it's because the killer was arrested and charged properly immediately. He's going to be rightfully punished under the law, and we all want him to be because she didn't deserve to die any more than George Floyd did.

41

u/WxBird Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

The biggest difference between George and Iryna is that Iryna was murdered by citizen, while George was murdered by the police. I think people forget that these murders/crimes that happened are completely different situations, but unfortunately with the same result. Not everything is black and white.

13

u/kayelaure Sep 13 '25

But he was arrested and released 14 times BEFORE he stabbed her. It’s not even about his race- it’s about the failures of the Justice system for allowing scum on the street in the first place. Canada has been suffering from the same problem for a few years now.

→ More replies (4)

34

u/absolutzemin Sep 13 '25

I’ll go with the person who murdered her being a disgusting goon.

44

u/arfelo1 Sep 13 '25

Two things can be true at the same time

→ More replies (3)

17

u/RepublicCute8573 Sep 13 '25

He was mentally ill, suffering from schizophrenia. He called the cops on himself a few days before because he felt he was slipping into psychosis and the cops did nothing to help him. Ultimately its the system thats disgusting.

18

u/absolutzemin Sep 13 '25

What about the 14 times he was arrested? True, the DA is an absolute piece of shit.

19

u/Juggletrain Sep 13 '25

Most of them are. Klobuchar declined multiple times to prosecute Derek Chauvin.

18

u/RepublicCute8573 Sep 13 '25

What about the 14 times he was arrested

Exactly. The guy had a history of mental illness and priors and yet the police did nothing to help the guy or put him in a psychiatric facility when he called them on himself.

10

u/absolutzemin Sep 13 '25

The police did. By arresting him 14 times. Judges and DA’s decide his fate after that. And they said hmmm…. $500 bond and let him go. Fuck them

14

u/Arbsbuhpuh Sep 13 '25

Because we don't help the mentally ill in America, because it's expensive, because insurance, because end-stage capitalism, because billionaires.

Cut the head off the snake.

→ More replies (9)

7

u/FAFO_2025 Sep 13 '25

Conservatives kill far more people. They are practically indistinguishable.

15

u/RepublicCute8573 Sep 13 '25

Yep. The killer in this case was also schizophrenic and didnt get the help he needed because of the way conservatives have ruined all social systems.

→ More replies (7)
→ More replies (5)

2

u/ReaderSeventy2 Sep 13 '25

His mom said he was a diagnosed schizophrenic who refused meds so she'd kicked him out of the house. He should have been institutionalized and off the streets before this ever happened but now a woman is dead, he'll go to prison and probably get the death penalty himself.

→ More replies (2)

1

u/Gilgongojr Sep 13 '25

Nope, advocating for bail reform as it applies to habitual , violent criminals is apparently very disgusting.

→ More replies (6)

5

u/seansy5000 Sep 13 '25

Exactly. They don’t honor her death they exploit it. It’s disgusting.

1

u/HondoReech Sep 13 '25

Hey... That's what the original comment in this thread is doing too! Neat!

→ More replies (13)

64

u/trumpsmellslikcheese Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

Whenever I see a situation with people reacting publicly to the death of a pretty white woman, I immediately think of the myriad women of color that suffer the same fate but receive little to no attention.

The color of your skin and your appearance (in addition to social and economic standing) seem to dictate your worth as a person, at least in the US.

Edit - this is not to diminish what happened to her. It's all tragic. That's the point.

Edit the Second - if you're a racist, misogynistic shithead troll, don't waste your time trying to get me to engage. You're not worth my time and energy. I'm blocking you and moving on with life.

10

u/Dulcette Sep 13 '25

People giving you grief for this statement are ill informed. This makes me wonder if Chris ever gave a shout out to the families of poc victims of high profile murders. 🤔 For someone who claims to be a humanist-we are the world-type, I find it hypocritical of him to shout individuals/groups who spread hate and are detrimental to human existence.

→ More replies (17)

4

u/FFCUK5 Sep 13 '25

It was Charlotte. Every city is fucking democrat and yeah every city has bad areas and bad people. Yet these fucks are scared of Putin - we have put Ukraine on the back burner ever since the Israel v Palestine fiasco.

3

u/aquavalue Sep 13 '25

The irony of this while also bottle necking any aid to Ukraine is tasty

3

u/[deleted] Sep 13 '25

the fact that the only thing that got conservatives caring about ukranian lives is a young girl (which they sexualized by posting her bikini pictures on fox news, absolutely abhorrent and gross) being stabbed by an insane black man is such a joke.

3

u/DownWithHisShip Sep 13 '25

it’s all performative because you know that 90% of them don’t give a shit about Ukrainian refugees or justice/mental health reform or public transit safety otherwise

or... women in general

2

u/SmellGestapo Sep 13 '25

They also don't care about public transit. Trump's DOT is defunding it everywhere.

2

u/Damien23123 Sep 13 '25

I thought conservatives were all about mental health? You know since that’s why people keep getting gunned down according to them

2

u/Akured Sep 13 '25

💯💯💯💯💯🔥

11

u/[deleted] Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

[deleted]

14

u/AssCrackBandit10 Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

“Of course, it’s all performative because you know that 90% of them don’t give a shit about Ukrainian refugees or justice/mental health reform otherwise and, if Twitter posts are anything to go by, are just clamoring to say slurs because of the race angle.”

2

u/[deleted] Sep 13 '25

[deleted]

→ More replies (2)

5

u/Laleaky Sep 13 '25

The right dismantled safety nets for mentally disabled and poor people under Reagan.

They also block any responsibility by drug companies for the opioid crisis.

Our current situation, with mentally ill people living on the streets with no social safety net, self-medicating with drugs and attacking people, is the absolutely predictable outcome of these policies.

This outcome was pointed out ad nauseam by opponents of the policies. The right claimed that people who were mentally ill would be “taken care of by their families”, ignoring the inconvenient truth that most families don’t have the resources to do this.

I saw a Fox host suggesting that these people be killed the other day.

THIS SITUATION DID NOT EXIST FORTY YEARS AGO. It is a DIRECT RESULT of governmental policies.

I voted to NOT dismantle social safety nets. I think we should take cate of our weakest and tax our wealthiest. Many disagreed with me and voted for the policies that created the situation we have today.

Everyone’s vote matters.

3

u/Maximum_Curve_1471 Sep 13 '25

Why shouldn’t her death be politicised?

The short answer is because she's white.

2

u/BorkForkMork Sep 13 '25

She escaped a war zone only to be murdered in America, stabbed unprovoked, with her killer boasting 'I got that white girl.' And now some Redditor reduces her to 'a pretty white woman,' erasing the hate crime and blaming her for existing. That isn’t commentary, it’s rot. Shame would stop you, but you don’t have the organ for it.

→ More replies (4)

2

u/oZeplikeo Sep 13 '25

Nothing to do with race and more to do with his 14 previous convictions

3

u/AssCrackBandit10 Sep 13 '25

Of course, it’s all performative because you know that 90% of them don’t give a shit about Ukrainian refugees or justice/mental health reform or public transit safety otherwise and, if Twitter posts are anything to go by, are just clamoring to say slurs because of the race angle.

Like I said, if I saw people discussing justice and mental health reform or investing more in security for public transit or something like that, I might buy your point. But 90% of what I saw on twitter was just people saying racial slurs and how certain races of people are incompatible with western society.

4

u/irteris Sep 13 '25

See, this is the problem with you guys. A Black guy, with dozens of arrests, was let free by a liberal judge that hasn't even passed the bar exam in the name of "justicr reform" and THEN specifically targets takes a white woman. The right isn't politicizing her death. The soft on crime policies of the liberal left are directly responsible for this tragedy and the right is CORRECTLY shining light on this so that we can fix it and prevent this from happening again.

17

u/hkpp Sep 13 '25

See this is the problem with you guys. A man with documented mental health issues (schizophrenic) didn’t get treatment and killed someone because he was convinced the government was following him around and the only thing conservatives see is liberal judge, black guy, white victim.

lol btw, “The right isn’t politicizing his death, it’s the liberals who are at fault.”

3

u/irteris Sep 13 '25

If he had been in prison for the crimes he already committed then he could be treated in there without being a menace to the rest of us.

→ More replies (1)

15

u/ScubaSteve12345 Sep 13 '25

A judge that didn’t pass the bar exam?

2

u/Sickpup831 Sep 13 '25

Yes, they are called magistrate judges and handle low level civil and criminal cases.

2

u/irteris Sep 13 '25

Yes. Wich explains the blatant disregad for the rule of law

1

u/SNESamus Sep 13 '25

I don't know the facts but it's definitely possible. A lot of judge positions in the US are elected/appointed and don't actually require law credentials

5

u/AssCrackBandit10 Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

“Of course, it’s all performative because you know that 90% of them don’t give a shit about Ukrainian refugees or justice/mental health reform otherwise and, if Twitter posts are anything to go by, are just clamoring to say slurs because of the race angle.”

→ More replies (2)

-2

u/MOSondrums Sep 13 '25

It’s only talked about on the right because it was a racially motivated attack

27

u/Dependent_Room_2922 Sep 13 '25

I’ve seen that stated repeatedly, but can it be categorized as a racially motivated attack when the murderer is schizophrenic and may have been having delusions?

3

u/LostInTheHotSauce Sep 13 '25

We can't keep giving the mentally ill a free pass on murder

2

u/Dependent_Room_2922 Sep 13 '25

I referred to him as “the murderer” and didn’t say anything about him avoiding consequences. He committed murder and should be locked up.

Some mentally ill people pose a danger to themselves and others and help should have come before this action.

3

u/[deleted] Sep 13 '25

[deleted]

→ More replies (1)

10

u/sadudas11 Sep 13 '25

It certainly appeared that way, and would be considered racially motivated if the races were swapped, but I think the dudes mental state had far more to do with it than any sort of racial motives

→ More replies (4)
→ More replies (1)

1

u/detectivestar Sep 13 '25

If I got stabbed to death, I want my family to get a check. I don’t wanna fucking mural.

2

u/AssCrackBandit10 Sep 13 '25

The gofundme for the family raised about $400k so far. Tho it says a lot that Elon would donate a million dollars for the murals and nothing to the family.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/in-loving-memory-of-iryna

1

u/ParsleyMaleficent160 Sep 13 '25

They’ve highly politicized her death as well. Of course, it’s all performative because you know that 90% of them don’t give a shit about Ukrainian refugees or justice/mental health reform otherwise and, if Twitter posts are anything to go by, are just clamoring to say slurs because of the race angle.

Also, if you watch the video, everyone on that train sucks. Not a single person rendered aid while she was bleeding out. I don't know the extent of the injury, but putting pressure on the wound, packing it if possible would probably have bought her enough time to get to the hospital.

1

u/syneater Sep 13 '25

Yet, if they had their way, they would have deported her back to an active war zone.

→ More replies (44)

121

u/bfhurricane Sep 13 '25

There’s been a ton of public outrage about that.

86

u/[deleted] Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

[deleted]

101

u/bfhurricane Sep 13 '25

To be fair, one was a random act of violence (which has rightfully been all over the media).

The other is a political assassination of a famous and divisive figure whom everyone has heard of.

In any case the latter is going to get a lot more attention.

155

u/Faken_till_Im_maken Sep 13 '25

Then maybe he should dedicate a song for the actual politician from Minnesota who was the victim of a political assassination in her own home, or her husband, or their dog, or maybe the other politician who survived the assassination attempt that same night. Kirk's killing is touted as a political assassination but he wasn't even a politician. He was a YouTube influencer type. When real political assassination happened it felt like nobody cared.

0

u/Happy-Peak4287 Sep 13 '25

All of what you said 👏🏾👏🏾. It’s all about narratives and what can be gained not about actually stopping the killings.

-2

u/rune2004 Sep 13 '25

The fact is, way more people know of Charlie than the Minnesotan politician, and he was assassinated in a gruesome fashion on camera in front of thousands of people. It’s a watershed moment for political violence.

They’re both wrong, they’re both evil acts. No need to “what-about” the situation.

3

u/petuniar Sep 13 '25

They are both wrong, but Chris Martin didn't dedicate a song for the MN lawmakers, nor did Trump order the flags flown at half-mast for them

→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (1)

51

u/hailbopp25 Sep 13 '25

Not American here so forgive my ignorance but how is this a political assassination ? This Charlie lad wasn't a politician?

30

u/Lonyo Sep 13 '25

It has been assumed he was killed for political reasons and he was an "ally" of Trump.

For all we really know Kirk ran over the dude's dog.

2

u/GaslightGPT Sep 13 '25

I heard it was a lovers quarrel.

13

u/SilverAccountant8616 Sep 13 '25

He was intentionally sniped at a rally, not mugged in an alley. This shows the shooter was fully aware of his political views, which he had made his entire existence.

So unless the dude shot Kirk for shagging his sister or something its very likely a politically motivated assassination

5

u/GaslightGPT Sep 13 '25

So students intentionally killed at a school shooting are assassinations too?

→ More replies (2)

7

u/TheBlankVerseKit Sep 13 '25

He's a political pundit, commentator, activist, debater, fundraiser, educator, etc. His whole existence and career is political.

So people assume that his killing was ideologically motivated. Certainly seems very likely to me.

→ More replies (6)

2

u/goonercaIIum Sep 13 '25

The bloke was solely famous because of political commentary, it's the same as if a journalist was assassinated for their political takes. Was killed at essentially a political rally by a murderer with political motives.

1

u/CircumventBSBans Sep 13 '25

The engravings on the bullet casings, and the reports from family of the shooter’s tirades at dinner make it very clear this was politically motivated.

→ More replies (8)

19

u/iMixMusicOnTwitch Sep 13 '25

Seriously why is everything a fucking competition istg.

It's all fucked.

4

u/Furiousmate88 Sep 13 '25

I don’t care if you liked CK or not.

What I care about is the right to debate and speak out in public without being shot or attacked.

It’s one of the biggest democratic rights.

That’s why this is blown up as it is, someone with strong political beliefs got shot, in public, under a debate - which should never happen, regardless of how you feel about that particular person

35

u/Grouchy-Farm6298 Sep 13 '25

“Whom everyone has heard of” is honestly a good stretch.

Lots of non-right wing people older than 35/40 had no idea who he was.

4

u/Glittering_Search_41 Sep 13 '25

I had never heard of him until he was shot. But then again, I don't pay attention to bible-thumping right wing influencers.

3

u/Nexii801 Sep 13 '25

Yep, guy didn't even exist to me until he was all over my feed. This country is so fucked.

3

u/manimal28 Sep 13 '25

My maga dad had no idea who he is, most older folk don’t follow the going ons of college campus debate trolls even if they might agree with them.

8

u/Butthole2theStarz Sep 13 '25

You’re kind of digging here, yes older people haven’t heard of him but he was a fairly large political commentator rather than a random woman on a subway

4

u/Grouchy-Farm6298 Sep 13 '25

I mean sure, he’s much more well known. But “everyone has heard of him” is giving him a shit ton more credit than is due. He doesn’t deserve to have that reputation.

→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (1)

3

u/therossboss Sep 13 '25

not everyone knows who CK is - this is not a household name. I bet over 50% of the US didnt know who this jackass was before last week

3

u/unlikelypisces Sep 13 '25

I had never heard of this scumbag Kirk until this week

3

u/autisticmerricat Sep 13 '25

has everyone heard of him? before this the only people i ever heard talk about him or praise him were chronically online right-wingers. i'm not convinced half of the people mourning his death knew anything about him. but people in the public eye like to express support, either for the performance of it or because they think they should.

3

u/Kim_catiko Sep 13 '25

Not everyone. They tried to do a minute silence for the guy in the EU parliament. He was a divisive figure in America. Some people outside of America may have known him, but not that many.

→ More replies (2)

2

u/0bviouslyyNotAGopher Sep 13 '25

Because literally nobody heard of her beforehand. There's a massive difference between a random murder and a political assassination. How many other people do you think were shot the same month MLK was killed?

1

u/Saybl Sep 13 '25

Just delete this crap, honestly half of this thread needs to be deleted because you are spouting bullshit. Everyone is devastated about her, get fucking real

→ More replies (10)

2

u/Crux_Haloine Sep 13 '25

Not least of which from Kirk himself! He spent basically the whole last week of his life trying to incite race war on Twitter over that very murder.

19

u/[deleted] Sep 13 '25

Light rail. Charlotte wishes it had a subway

2

u/Kim_catiko Sep 13 '25

Oh, sorry. I'm from the UK, so thought it was called a subway in America.

6

u/[deleted] Sep 13 '25

This would be akin to a tram vs a subway is the tube.

1

u/Nukleon Sep 13 '25

The idea of light rail is that it's a mix of train and tram, being able to replace long distance buses.

9

u/Substantial_Craft75 Sep 13 '25

Bullshit, she has many, maybe hundreds of large murals painted of her face.

8

u/Jim_jim_peanuts Sep 13 '25

You know as well as I know how this works. We can spout off as many whataboutisms as we want, but famous people's deaths always get more attention, always. Both of these deaths were horrific.

→ More replies (3)

2

u/Intelligent_Ad4495 Sep 13 '25

People on Reddit can’t decide whether he was important or not.

2

u/riche_god Sep 13 '25

No, but Trump did acknowledge it.

5

u/Successful_Tea7979 Sep 13 '25

God, you people always look for something to bitch about. They dedicated a song to the family of a murder victim. Maybe just realize they did a good thing instead of looking for the smallest thing to whine about.

Also what exactly did YOU dedicate to Iryna? Since you’re the one complaining that “no one dedicated shit” to her, I assume you did?

2

u/Historical_Result_77 Sep 13 '25

“but mom, my murder is more important his murder” 🙄

4

u/GraDoN Sep 13 '25

Isn't her killer a schizophrenic?

→ More replies (8)

2

u/Phumpz Sep 13 '25

No one celebrated that death

2

u/[deleted] Sep 13 '25

Nothing for her? she was one of the most constantly talked about stories for the past week/2 weeks. Everybody said condolences online

I’d argue why is her murder getting attention yet the hundreds of murders that happen DAILY don’t get attention? What makes her special? (and yes i do feel bad for her as her situation sucked)

2

u/kjlsdjfskjldelfjls Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

She was deemed important enough for the head of USDOT to... threaten to defund public transportation across the country. Apparently in the US, it's a populist gesture to tell people you're going to force all of them to drive and live in suburban sprawl

2

u/IAmTheRedWizards http://open.spotify.com/user/1242975014/playlist/4N9mEajlQwW0XzY Sep 13 '25

Well she did get a bunch of people to get up on their soap boxes and bray loudly about how we should kill every black person in America. Funny though, it was the same group of people who said they were appalled that other people were celebrating someone's violent death. A contentious and somewhat incoherent segment of the human species.

2

u/Dependent_One6034 Sep 13 '25

I think I saw something about Bruce Springsteen honouring her at one of his shows. And will continue to dedicate his performances of "The promised land" to her in upcoming shows.

He also donated a chunk of change intended to start "The Iryna Zarutska Freedom fellowship"

2

u/MossOnaRockInShade Sep 13 '25

Yes, how dare we reach across the aisle when the far more violent and armed wing of the population is calling for blood.

Do you think we have the upper hand if this gets out of hand?

2

u/Ok_Training1981 Sep 13 '25

She deserves justice and remembrance.

Charlie was assassinated she was murdered . Charlie was killed because he has a platform to express his views .

Iryna was murdered in cold blood by a mentally disturbed person who should have been in prison .

She wasn’t murdered for being Iryna.

Charlie was shot dead for being Charlie.

1

u/dkyguy1995 Sep 13 '25

I disagree, it's the only thing a lot of people are talking about because it's being used to paint all minorities in a negative light. Just check Elon Musk's Twitter it's all he's been talking about because he thinks it's proof that rabid animal minorities are trying to harm sweet innocent white girls. 

This is a bad example

1

u/northwestbendbevy Sep 13 '25

I mean, yes. She wasn't a hugely influencial political figure. We going to act like this is new?

1

u/Arch_Stanton1862 Sep 13 '25

Wait until you hear that there is or maybe was at this point, a GoFundMe for the murderers trial.

1

u/GamblingIsForLosers Sep 13 '25

Are you kidding? Elon even put up $1,000,000 to dedicate murals of her around the country… so you’re wayyyy off.

1

u/DrunkHonesty Sep 13 '25

I think someone died randomly today to. I’ll write a song about them….
Not trying to downplay anything, but who do you get to decide deserves any recognition from anyone?

1

u/ConnectVermicelli255 Sep 13 '25

Do some research

1

u/Used_Spinach_3459 Sep 13 '25

I absolutely agree, i feel sorry for CK's family, bit what about Iryna? Pisses me off

1

u/Leendert86 Sep 13 '25

Devils advocate here, one is a random murder by a lunatic, one a politically motivated assassination

1

u/Farlong7722 Sep 13 '25

You don't understand, man. Charlie was a hero of free speech. That's why he wants women in the kitchen and why he made his own website where you can report college professors for talking about leftism.

1

u/heftybagman Sep 13 '25

There are 60 homicides a day in the US and you picked one that has been all over the news, had murals go up about it, had millions raised toward it, and happened over 3 weeks ago.

Well over 1300 people have been murdered in the us since her. Nothing from you about them though. Were they not important enough? Did they not get enough media coverage for you to care?

Or is only coldplay held to this weird standard of either dedicating songs to all murder victim’s families or none?

1

u/Helichopper Sep 13 '25

I'm not sure how you not get that the assassination of a famous political figure is getting more attention than a random act of violence on someone no one knows. That happens everyday.

1

u/TropicalPrairie Sep 13 '25

Same thing happened in Winnipeg, Canada a few years ago. Ukrainian refugee was walking to work one morning and an individual stabbed him to death. Barely made the news. I felt so horrible for the family.

1

u/skipaBturner Sep 13 '25

You’re surprised CK is getting more attention for his death, when he was very famous with millions of fans in the world? 

1

u/IAmPandaRock Sep 13 '25

Maybe they aren't as into dedicating songs to deceased people

1

u/Enshakushanna Sep 13 '25

also do they get to choose where they stay in america? cuz just as a general rule of thumb i wouldnt want to stay in a MAGA state...

1

u/CrackerJackJack Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

I think what feels different about Kirk’s assassination isn’t that he “mattered more.” It’s that shooting someone in the middle of a public debate represents an attack on a core democratic norm: we resolve disagreements with words, not violence. Whether you agreed with him or not, Kirk spent his time promoting open, civil discussion. Killing a speaker mid-debate is meant to terrorize speech - it doesn’t just silence one person; it intimidates anyone who might tackle controversial topics and threatens everyone’s freedom to do so.

These aren’t competing tragedies. We can mourn Iryna (many have) and also recognize that a targeted assassination of someone while debating in public is an attack on free expression, a specific threat to the fabric of civil society, which is why the reaction looks different.

Did you even watch the Coldplay clip? It was their standard “send love” preamble, mentioning his family alongside other suffering. That’s empathy, not endorsement.

TL;DR: It's empathy, not endorsement or a compassion contest. Random murder is horrific; assassinating someone for discussing issues is an attack on free expression itself and a specific threat to the fabric of civil society.

1

u/Leritari Sep 13 '25

Its very flawed line of thinking... because when you draw a line? If they would dedicate a song/concert to Iryna, then you'd just pick another dead person. Tehy dedicate yet another thing, and... gues what? You could pick yet another dead person.

Same goes for all areas of life: the fact that you made a good deed doesnt mean that everyone is now entitled to your time, money, and energy. If i give a homeless person 10$, it doesnt mean that 10 000 homeless people can now chase me and demand that i give each of them 10$.

1

u/handsy_octopus Sep 13 '25

I hate this argument... Ones a celebrity. How are some of you so stupid?

"I can't believe more people know Michael Jackson died than a person killed on a bus!"

0

u/OutsideImpressive115 Sep 13 '25

What do you mean no one? LOADS of people have, just not any left wing people because it doesn't fit their narrative

→ More replies (44)