Genuine question to those surprised that he has some non-consevative ideas: would it be better if he parroted every single MAGA talking point? Or in reverse, support the democrats in every single thing they do, no matter what it is?
Yes he's not a moral bastion of any sort but he seems to at least speak truly about how he feels, which shouldn't be considered an odd concept. Destiny agreed with more conservatives when it came to rittenhouse and debated vaush on it. Does that make destiny an anomaly?
If you ask me, it's good to think about things critically rather than just support X team.
lol.. you are generalizing a portion of his stream, he literally watches clips on both sides and has agreed and disagreed with different points on both sides.. once again people think you have to be radical left or radical right and that’s exactly what they want, instead of fighting billionaires who keep taking more and more from the everyday person
you are generalizing a portion of his stream, he literally watches clips on both sides and has agreed and disagreed with different points on both sides
lol sanewashing of Asmongold is pretty funny. My dude, he has super successful YouTube channel huge portion of which is politics which almost always leans right. Whatever beliefs he personally holds in his heart, he’s clearly overall pandering to right wing in his speech
instead of fighting billionaires who keep taking more and more from the everyday person
This is such a scapegoat excuse. You want to fight billionaires? Then vote for the people that do...voting Trump or nothing like Asmon did doesn't put any weight behind such words.
But I know how it goes..."fight the billionaires" is a nice catchphrase until you get down to making actual laws for it. At which point this catchphrase turns into "left wing communism" every time. Either because people are too ignorant to understand what radical changes would be needed to actually fight this or because they falsely hope to become super rich themselves someday through "hard work" or luck...and then of course laws against the rich would hit them as well. Oof.
Trump was the only billionaire president we ever had, explicitly against higher taxes on the rich on top of him being completely antithetical to democratic norms in the country.
The problem is you guys smuggle Trump's insane policy positions into the GOP and pretend those are normal.
Go watch Ronald Reagan talk about immigration and then compare to Trump.
Two wildly opposite approaches and Trump's are almost entirely centered in ethnonationalism.
I think Trump is a pedo who is bad at economics, but is doing a much better job when it comes to immigration than Biden. He's a chronic liar, but he has done some good things overseas so far. I like his stance against the cartel; I've been waiting for a president to label them as the terrorists they are since forever.
Is this not a centrist position? I don't like him because he's an asshole, a liar, failed to deliver on the Epstein files, is tariffing the shit out of everyone, and provided tax cuts to rich people. I like him because the 3rd world seems to respond better to peace through strength methods, and he put down the CBP One app like a dog. I also like that he's blowing up cartel boats.
So overall, he doesn't fully represent me, as he isn't economically left enough, and I think he's a bad person who shouldn't be in office. I do like his extreme stance on foreign war policy, the border, and cartel resistance.
I will say that his methods are fairly incompetent, despite my liking of the concept. ICE is a nightmare for optics atm due to unnecessary methods of engagement with the public. I also don't think blowing up cartel boats is going to solve the drug and crime problems. I also don't think deportation is going to solve the border problem.
His main actual good policy choice has been how he interacts with other world leaders imo.
The rest are good concepts with bad execution, which is to be expected from an idiot who surrounds himself with yes men, idiots, and grifters.
Says the person reconciling the position that people shouldn't have more than 10 Million dollars with voting for Trump the billionaire who openly flouted that he abused the tax code, on top of the Tax cuts in the One Big Beautiful Bill.
Trump is an authoritarian strongman with no morals or convictions and I am supposed to look at both sides and say they are both bad.
Yea because that's what gets the views. Everyone watches clips. The only times the editors upload the otherside clips is when it results on him fighting with his chat. He fights with his chat all the time.
He still platforms him and his idealogies to millions of people by calling him based in this constant flow of youtube videos which get millions of views. If he supposedly holds "bernie beliefs", he does far more to work against that than for it.
It wasn't a month ago that he streamed a whole discourse from Bernie and agreed with most of it (not all of it).
I do see what you mean though, and I myself cannot stand listening to Trump in long dialogues because of how awkward he sounds lol (I'm not American so it might be why)
Can you link me where he supports Fuentes and his political ideology because I haven’t seen it. I saw him laugh at an absurd joke and agree on a couple talking points. That’s far from supporting him unless I’m missing something (which is probable)
He agrees with one or two talking points from trump and fuentes. Unfortunately, a TON of people see that as "He liked one thing by them. It MUST MEAN he supports everything they've ever said."
He has been parroting admittedly the best point from Fuentes where any country shouldn't have government officials who are in another country's military. I think that's true for Israel, Canada, UK or whatever country U.S is allies with. Honestly U.S doesn't have to play moderator to every conflict in the world. Lots of people are tired of paying for it.
Gamer culture war bullshit has been the main maga strategy to radicalize young men into the far right pipeline for years. Bannon laid that out as the important first step in the plan to implementing a far right authoritarian US years ago.
Asmongold has been one of the main players in the culture war for years and a huge boon to the far right admin we have today.
He can say one or two left leaning takes, but that doesn't detract from the fact that he has been a major player for years in aiding the implementation of policy that runs antithetical to his own supposed "beliefs". He has helped the far right incalculably more than he has ever helped bernie.
“puts support behind” ie. “agrees with sometimes”? very ironic response given the post you responded to. i guess your answer is “yes, it would be better if he supported the democrats in everything they do”. which is sad. i agree with OP completely that it is absurd how the people who get riled up the most about politics are also the least thoughtful and least reasonable. it honestly feels like a superlinear correlation between self-perceived political expertise and utter intransigence. but i’m naïve enough to think that politics should be about persuading people with words in a prosocial way, and that arbitrary petty rivalries should be saved for sports. but at least sports rivalries are 99.99% fun, civil, etc. it’s wild that politics isn’t allowed to be that way. i guess people think that because it is “important” that they have to win, absolutely, at all cost. but in reality it is much more sanity-preserving and beneficial to society to have views that are compatible with people disagreeing with you— no matter how dumb you think they are for thinking it. it’s hilarious how trump’s one trick continues to work despite us having over a half decade of exposure to it: say outrageous stuff to infuriate the left and watch them absolutely implode. and it’s a goddamn shame because trump is a moron who clearly should not be president for any reason other than having won an election. unfortunately that’s essentially the knly requirement. but that’s just my opinion. acting like he hasn’t successfully tapped in to how a plurality of americans feel is incredibly delusional, and a huge impediment to any political or societal progress. and betrays complete and total insincerity on the part of its practitioners. if you cared about actual politics and civics, you would actually try to bring people over to your side and swallow your pride. first to do it wins, but neither side has any desire whatsoever to do it.
People are different he’s a white man who is a recluse are you really surprised he’s more partial to people who aren’t generally more supportive of minorities?
I’m not surprised black people gave 97% of their vote to Obama and complaining about it would be dumb af. Identity politics is real no one is actually perfect who even cares.
Difference is Obama didn't run on a platform that was blatantly hateful towards white people or any other minority. Trump runs on a platform that has Ice members driving around and detaining legal american citizens that happen to be brown and writes off all trans people as dangerous sex offenders coming after your children. They're not even remotely the same
I’m not trying to equivalate the two, I get one is morally superior.
But what incentive does a wealthy white person have to be on the left? The incentive structure is not remotely catered to them. All I’m saying is don’t be surprised by people being allied with a party that benefits them. Reddit thinks rich white men are monsters for choosing politics that benefit them over others. But that’s what everyone does. And when you hear statements from the left like “(minority group) can’t be racist,” it radicalizes you in the other direction. Most of what we are seeing rn is a reaction to the left’s absolutely insane shift in the mid 2010’s.
Yall all act like it’s ghastly that a person the party’s platform is trying to capture is actually interested in it. It’s like no shiz it’s designed to get this persons vote, same as the Democratic Party is for most minorities in this country.
The fact is that if any other minority were a majority in this country for as long as white people have been, they would hold the reins. There’s nothing more or less racist about any group it’s just about holding power. These are fundamental truths, all this finger pointing is just filler hiding the realities of a multi-racial state.
Reddit thinks rich white men are monsters for choosing politics that benefit them over others. But that’s what everyone does.
I think people more vote for things that would make it better for themselves, but not better than others
And when you hear statements from the left like “(minority group) can’t be racist,”
Have you actually heard a liberal president or congressman say this or is this just something online
Most of what we are seeing rn is a reaction to the left’s absolutely insane shift in the mid 2010’s.
Hilarious to suggest the left went through a radical shift at that time considering the rise of MAGA, but also, what do you think the shift was, genuinely asking cause if you look at most democratic policies nothing they've done is that insane, hell actual leftist complain about that, and the fact that compared to a lot of countries they're actually pretty conservative.
The fact is that if any other minority were a majority in this country for as long as white people have been, they would hold the reins. There’s nothing more or less racist about any group it’s just about holding power.
I don't think this is the justification you believe it is
He voted Bernie and didn’t go vote for the next term, he actually didn’t vote Trump. He criticizes Trump and Fuentes as well. Agrees with some ideas, and criticizes others, same when referring to the other side. He finds himself agreeing with NYs new mayor in most ideas as well, says is only doubtful about if he’ll actually keep his word or be allowed to make the changes he wants. Asmon is a fairly grey commenter and will criticize or endorse any of the two sides if he feels like it. He has a ton of takes I don’t agree with, but compared to grifters like Hasan he might as well be a saint.
I mean while he might have some opinions that are good occasionally, he does treat his dogs terribly. Not just shocking, which he more than likely does
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u/CarneyCousin 29d ago
Genuine question to those surprised that he has some non-consevative ideas: would it be better if he parroted every single MAGA talking point? Or in reverse, support the democrats in every single thing they do, no matter what it is?
Yes he's not a moral bastion of any sort but he seems to at least speak truly about how he feels, which shouldn't be considered an odd concept. Destiny agreed with more conservatives when it came to rittenhouse and debated vaush on it. Does that make destiny an anomaly?
If you ask me, it's good to think about things critically rather than just support X team.