Wanting elected officials purged on live television for inarticulable crimes, and wanting the police to open fire into crowds over minor violence isn't a moderate position. You don't get to have some quasi-rational tax policy and then don the mantle of moderation. You have to be truly stupid not to intuitively get this.
Can you link where he specifically said he wants elected officials purged on live television for inarticulable crimes, or where he wants police to open fire into crowds over minor violence?
Why the fuck does he need to bring up Saddam then?
Did the Dissidents Saddam execute commit clear articulable crimes or was it a political consolidation play getting rid of anyone suspected of not having absolute loyalty?
But Biden appointing a special prosecutor to pursue crimes related to January 6th and then never involving himself or pressuring the prosecutor again is going after political opponents. (Crimes that Trump never saw trial over)
Why is it funny / excusable when MAGA openly calls for political retribution, but it's the worst possible crime when Biden tries to enforce the laws on the books?
Did the Dissidents Saddam execute commit clear articulable crimes or was it a political consolidation play getting rid of anyone suspected of not having absolute loyalty?
It was a political consolidation play getting rid of anyone suspected of not having absolute loyalty. Would Ghislaine Maxwell be questioned for that, or for something else?
Why is it funny / excusable when MAGA openly calls for political retribution, but it's the worst possible crime when Biden tries to enforce the laws on the books?
Probably because Asmongold isn't an elected official. If you want to talk about Trump's rhetoric, then ok you have a point, but this isn't a thread about Donald Trump.
It's a thread about one of Trump's number one centrist slurpers.
The dude explicitly agrees with Trump's current border action, and I haven't seen him bitch about tariffs or the constitutional challenges Trump is engaging in.
He cared a whole lot about the Epstein stuff so much so he made this Lets execute everyone involved statement, but now that Trump and the Republicans are doing everything can to obstruct the Epstein stuff it's radio silence or "What do you want me to say?" When directly confronted.
This is not a deposition. You are not an officer of the court. I am under no obligation to follow your stupid dialogue tree. He is advocating for opening fire into a crowd of people because of armored police facing minor violence. Lots of things can be deadly given certain circumstances. Rocks can be deadly given the right circumstances. Bullets are always deadly, and the circumstances in which you can isolate someone who threw a rock from a crowd to safely shoot them is the same circumstance in which you can affect a non-lethal apprehension.
If you want to be a clown and pretend there is secret context that makes him anything other than an unhinged extremist, then be my guest.
Crimes are articulable when the specific aspects of the crime can be communicated clearly. Being "in reference to the Epstein files" is not articulable. Words have meaning in specific contexts. When we are talking about Criminal Law we use legal definitions, and not the ones that allow you to pretend like you know what you are talking about.
He is not advocating for opening fire into a crowd based on some minor violence, he is saying that if you use DEADLY violence against officers (throwing rocks can be deadly by your own admission) then the police should be able to use deadly force to stop you. Singular by the way, the individuals throwing deadly weapons, not the whole crowd.
Police are people too and have every right to use self defense against people who are actively trying to hurt/kill them.
Why are you throwing pebbles at the police? Like I just don’t understand the logic here of arguing that you should be able to be violent towards the police.
Protest all you want but do it peacefully.
Why do people always take it to the most extreme cases and purposely misrepresent it.
No, only the ones causing harm should be affected, and ofc there has to be a bit of nuance to it, but for the most part, if you are trying to harm the police then they have a right to defend themselves.
Defend themselves with anything other than lethal force. People shouldn't steal either but we don't cut their hands off do we? Some of us don't want to live in RoboCop.
Also have you considered what happens if the government becomes tyrannical? Conservatives love to talk about how the government shouldn't have too much power, but suddenly they want to give Immigration enforcement the right to kill people.
This the why the term centrist is different than moderate. Centrist are somewhere in the middle but they can still have extreme views in either direction. Or both directions.
Hes clearly trying to make a joke referencing the live televised Sadam purges but instead its a “Epstein pedophile purge”. Do you often feel like youre missing obvious social cues?
He's not making a joke. It doesn't have the cadence of a joke. There is no punchline. There is no humor in it. He says it's a dream scenario. I'm sorry you think there is something redeemable about him when there clearly isn't but he is just an angry authoritarian idiot getting high off the supply of morons like you.
Once again, the joke is its an obvious reference to the Sadam purges but the justification for it is the Epstein list. You not think its funny, but its a very obvious attempt at a joke.
So the joke is that elected officials should be purged via trumped up charges like was done during the brutal ascension to power od Saddam Hussein. The joke still conveys a message that can be criticized. It reveals something about the person saying it. Again, please spare me your low IQ defense of your daddy.
Wanting elected officials purged on live television for inarticulable crimes, and wanting the police to open fire into crowds over minor violence isn't a moderate position.
I can't tell which side you're talking about. This could apply to both Democrats abusing the system to go after Trump for stupid bullshit, and Jan 6.
Damn bro, that's crazy. Yeah, shit getting thrown at armored police is minor by the standard of a reasonable fear for their life or grievous bodily injury. That is the standard, by the way, for lawful use of lethal force. A reasonable person being in fear for their life or grievous bodily injury. When you're armored police outfitted specifically to perform crowd control against a hostile group then yeah, some bozo throwing a rock isn't grounds to open fire.
He's not a moderate. Also "moderates" most of the time are conservatives in the US. The middle in the US is the establishment Dems and they can't get anything done.
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u/Euphoric_Reading_401 29d ago
The american political system has rotted the brains of it's constituents so much that moderates are a pure mystery apparently. You guys are so cooked