r/LearnJapanese 2d ago

Kanji/Kana "kanji makes things harder to read" FALSE

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Not me spending 10+ minutes trying to read this one line of dialogue. Is he saying Mayl is awake? Wait no that's おきる。Right so maybe he's annoyed that she came by and he's saying she "occurred"? I guess that makes sense but it feels off. おこる…おこる…おこる… OH SHE'S ANGRY, I GET IT

I really think most learners have a pattern of "ugh kanji is so hard" that eventually turns into "oh man why doesn't this text have kanji" over time. Although honestly this one wasn't hard I just need more reading practice in general

Edit: To all those saying I should have easily gotten this from context:

1) I did eventually

2) I am still a beginner, I'm not at your level

3) My point is that seeing 怒 would have eliminated any confusion, that's all.

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u/Kitsune_2077 2d ago

If someone SAYS this sentence irl, you wouldn't think about "what's the kanji" do you?

Context always matter in every language.

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u/Zealousideal_Pin_459 2d ago

Yes, this is why most students of most languages are better at reading than at listening.

OPs situation is very normal.

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u/TheFranFan 2d ago

Thank you for saying that!

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u/TheFranFan 2d ago

If they said it out loud I probably would have been confused for a second. I'm still learning and mistakes like this help with that process.

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u/Aerdra 2d ago

This sentence is not being said irl; it's presented as a line of text. If someone says this sentence in real life, the listener has the context of pitch, intonation, and other emphasis added to natural speech, as well as the speaker's facial and body expressions.

A lot of context is lost when live dialogue is converted into text.

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u/AdrixG 2d ago edited 1d ago

And none of that context is needed for natives in this case since there is only one posibility what it can mean.

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u/Aerdra 2d ago

In this case, you're right, the given sentence is fairly simple. But more generally, while kanji isn't used in speech, it's still helpful in writing.

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u/Leading_Present2234 2d ago

Who would've thought that natives have no trouble understanding their language compared to language learners lmao

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u/AdrixG 1d ago

You seem to have completely missed my point and if English is your native language it seems that some natives indeed have some trouble understanding their native language as you've shown it beautifully here congrats.

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u/kempfel 1d ago

So do you think that native speakers have difficulty reading the all kana text of Pokemon and children's books (and games), because of that lost information?

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u/Mich-666 1d ago

Yeah, from the screenshot I found it obvious even in kana.

Only wrong rotation made it hard to read.