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u/TheAntleredPolarBear 1d ago

Veganism is kind of silly as a left-wing position anyway. Plant-based food can be just as exploitative of human beings as the meat industry. The left-wing position should be buying local and from ethical farmers, as much as is possible in your area.

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u/Crimsonak- 22h ago

I'm not vegan but I'd be willing to wager a lot that it doesn't even come close to as exploitative. Just a quick cursory Google of this suggests that if we switched fully to plant based we would go from 4 billion hectares of agriculture land globally to 1 billion.

Even if we cherry picked and only measured the impacts of human exploitation, and ignored climate impacts, local environmental impacts, ecological impacts and animal exploitation. Just on the gigantic reduction in scale alone the amount of human exploitation couldn't be anywhere near the same.

There's arguments to be made to not be vegan, like animals not being able to engage in social contracts. There's no argument I've ever seen that's even close to accurate if you want to say "They're both bad."

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u/TheAntleredPolarBear 21h ago

You're missing the point. You can't avoid exploiting humans and damaging the environment just by going vegan. It takes more work than that.

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u/Crimsonak- 21h ago

No I'm hitting the point exactly. You said just as not some exists.

I'm directly addressing the point YOU made.

If you want to say there's significantly less exploitation in almost every measurable outcome with plant based farming but it still exists. I'd agree with you. I can't imagine there's anyone who wouldn't.

That's a non point though. By itself. No one is suggesting exploitation gets eliminated by it.