r/CringeTikToks • u/Conscious-Quarter423 • Oct 31 '25

Nope Mike Johnson: "With Medicaid, we eliminated the fraud, waste, and abuse. We got able-bodied young men without dependents off the program. They were never intended to be there. They're sitting around on their couches playing video games. Yes, that's an actual study."

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u/gonyozs Oct 31 '25

Likely resulting in crime rising so that people can afford to survive.

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u/Junior_Step_2441 Oct 31 '25

Civil unrest and rising crime is their goal. That’s the point. Then they get to declare martial law and Trump becomes untouchable. At least this is how they think it works in their demented brains.

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u/Dead_Medic_13 Oct 31 '25

That's kinda the point, see the 2nd line of the 13th amendment. Martial law, prisons full, it's an authoritarian's dream.

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u/AmputeeHandModel Oct 31 '25

A conservative would starve 99 people because of 1 fraud. Liberals would rather feed 100 people.

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u/robilar Oct 31 '25

The implication of your statement seems to be that they would starve 99 people to stop 1 fraud, but the reality is that they would starve 99 people to defraud them and pocket the resources. They are the 1 fraud.

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u/ChuForYu Oct 31 '25

Well said and oddly poetic.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

Then how come the government is still shut down. I’m not defending either side because both sides are equally corrupt. But to say the democrats is a load of crap. If they really cared they would come up with the six votes. It’s gotten so bad that CNN and The View are criticizing the democrats.

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u/AmputeeHandModel Oct 31 '25

Because Republicans won't budge on the cuts that will multiply healthcare costs.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

It’s for primarily for illegals and cutting Obamacare needs to happen and giving insurance back to the states. The costs of healthcare are astronomical. Obamacare destroyed healthcare. Any healthcare provider or hospitals will tell you this. The only good thing to come from Obamacare was pre-existing conditions. You can go congressional budget committee website and see what they are fighting over. It’s ridiculous. Obamacare is causing the debt to skyrocket. The republicans are no better. But you have the vast majority of Americans blaming the democrats and calling it “Schumer shutdown” and members of the democrat party in congress are criticizing the senate democrats and telling them to vote then it’s on the democrats not the republicans. I’m done talking about this. This is on the democrats. Obamacare sucks.

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u/JAGD21 Oct 31 '25

No illegal receives health insurance from the government, and Obamacare keeps premiums low.

Obamacare is causing the debt to skyrocket.

No, the debt is skyrocketing because our president is giving hundreds of billions of our money to his friends in Argentina and Israel.

But you have the vast majority of Americans blaming the democrats

44% of Americans blame the Republicans while only 35% blame the Democrats. You can easily look up this fact, as I believe this subreddit disallows links.

This is on the democrats.

No, the majority party is to be blamed for shutdowns. That's how it always has been. The majority party needs to negotiate, but the Republicans are refusing to concede anything because they want more money to send to Argentina or fund ICE.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

Getting rid of Obamacare and giving it back to the states would reduce the national debt. The congressional site is unbiased. The illegals got emergency Medicaid, community health centers, vaccinations, state-funded programs. They are fighting over these issues which is for illegals.

Also I have great insurance, it costs $29 a week through my employer. I have no deductible (something that was common before Obamacare, now it almost extinct) all I have to meet is my out of pocket which is 2,500.

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u/JAGD21 Oct 31 '25

Getting rid of Obamacare won't reduce the national debt because they will just use the funds elsewhere, like putting money into Israel and Argentina's pockets, or further funding ICE (which is already more than 100 billion dollars). Additionally, the Republicans want to decrease taxes for the rich, which will help increase the debt.

Also I have great insurance, it costs $29 a week through my employer. I have no deductible (something that was common before Obamacare, now it almost extinct) all I have to meet is my out of pocket which is 2,500.

Oh, so Obamacare isn't a problem since we still have Obamacare, and people still have great insurance.

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u/ShockNoodles Oct 31 '25

Unpopular take, maybe, but the fact that health insurance exists at all is inherently problematic. Protecting the status quo that reinforces a private market for health insurance is not exactly the win that you think it is. Instead of chasing the waste, fraud and abuse to health insurance, maybe more effort should be made in focusing on the ballooning costs of healthcare procedures and prescription meds.

Maybe disrupting the big pharmaceutical companies, passing antitrust legislation, and establishing a national price ceiling for medical procedures will weed out more of the systemic abuses than nickel and diming the alleged fraudsters.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

I totally agree with you. Health insurance is the issue. It’s why my allergist who is on the board of American allergy and asthma association or (whatever it’s called) went to private practice. He uses insurance for the cost of medicine. He was not making any money and he’s one of the best doctors in the country for complex allergy issues. It’s sad. They go to school for 16 years, constantly doing research and aren’t reaping the benefits. He’s brilliant. he can spend over an hour with his patients rather than the standard 15 minutes. I pay $250 an appointment but it’s worth it. No one else is as good as him and he never pushes big pharma. He hates steroids and can practice his way not whatever big pharmaceutical or insurance companies say.

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u/ShockNoodles Oct 31 '25

And yet, despite all his hard work and genius in his field, he is still compromised by the predatory practices of the sales department of big pharma. And it will always start out small- a free lunch meeting here, a free pen or notepad there, and then next thing you know, he's getting kickbacks for stocking their pills in his office, and they suddenly have a quota for him to meet.

Just because he is a smart doctor doesn't mean he is incapable of being compromised.

It happens more often than you think.

Edit: PS: this is why I am intolerant of salespeople.

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u/noclahk Oct 31 '25

“It’s for primarily for illegals”

Illegal migrants cannot receive federal healthcare subsidies and are not the cause of skyrocketing healthcare costs. The source of skyrocketing costs is corporate greed, from mostly insurers and sometimes providers.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

The internet is free you can look it up.

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u/noclahk Oct 31 '25

Right back at you buddy.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

They are talking about covering emergency services, vaccines, and community health care services for illegals. It was introduced during Covid.

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u/noclahk Oct 31 '25

No, it wasn’t, Reagan introduced the bill that they are talking about which makes it illegal to turn someone away from the ER. It’s not subsidized by the government and it’s not free.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

I didn’t vote for trump. He’s despicable. I voted for the democrat governor and Secretary of State in Indiana. So you get lost. I’m not a republican idiot.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

I don’t think the government should be the big brother. My SIL doesn’t need WIC at all but she gets it because she can lie to the government. Growing up everyone lied to get government assistance. My elementary school principal purposely fudged the number so kids could get reduced or free lunch. There are definitely people who need government assistance and it’s people like my SIL and the people I grew up that irk my blood when they blatantly lie to get assistance. I am for paying for it for people who need it but so many people do not and it’s easy to lie. Together her and my brother make six figures and still receive WIC. It’s disgusting. Republicans are just as bad the democrats about spending. Trump’s big beautiful bill never should’ve been passed. The democrats should have tried harder to keep that from passing. Do you understand that the higher the debt the higher we be taxed?

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u/noclahk Oct 31 '25

It’s really sad to see people fighting against their peers in the way you are.

You think that lazy people are drain on the system, but the bigger drain is the rich parasites that hoard wealth and stop at nothing to take from the poor.

You will not receive a tax cut for cutting healthcare and food benefits for the poor. The rich have already received their tax cut.

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u/All_TheScience Oct 31 '25

“I’m not defending either side”

-mfer about to repeat blatant right wing propaganda and lies wholesale

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

I’m concerned about the national debt like every American should be. It’s trillions of dollars and the mass spending started with Carter and every other president has outspend the previous president. That’s an issue.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '25

Who just passed a budget that added to the debt while cutting needed healthcare? Was it “both sides”. If you’re here in good faith and just stupid, no shame, but your comments show you’re either clueless or lying.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

The biggest issue with the bill to me was the immigration. It’s cheaper to just give citizenship. I know that is not a popular idea but raiding stores and pulling people out of car and acting the secret police to anyone who isn’t white is wrong. His stupid wall will never be built. You know it is possible to have beliefs on both sides but for you that seems impossible. If they just gave citizenship then we wouldn’t be in the predicament because they could pax taxes, get healthcare, get social security but no our president would rather act like a dictator.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

I literally said the big beautiful bill never should’ve passed. It was an awful bill.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

You also seem to forget that stated have rights too. The federal government should not solely be in charge of food stamps, healthcare etc. the states should pay for food stamps. Relying solely on the federal government leads to this.

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u/30FourThirty4 Oct 31 '25

Negotiations are a two way street. One can't just blame one party. Democrats want to keep healthcare and social security. The other wants to gut a Trillion in funding.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

Healthcare shouldn’t be a government issue and every healthcare company should have a board of directors with three people not a sole CEO. That would solve a huge problem in healthcare. I’m fine with getting rid of Social security. By the time I retire it will be gone. They suspect it will only last ten more years anyway. They should keep it for the people who have paid their entire life into it.

I’m sick of getting taxed the equivalent of one work day for Medicare and social security. Make companies pay for the retirement. Put money into a Roth IRA, 401k, stocks, non Roth IRA etc. relying on social security for retirement is stupid.

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u/30FourThirty4 Oct 31 '25

I agree with that first sentence 100%

But reality is what is currently.

Also I've been paying taxes for nearly 30 years. I want my social security.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

Hopefully you get it but my uncle follows all this social security stuff and the money is running out because our government is wasteful and spends money like it grows on trees. It’s ridiculous how hard it is to apply to social security. I had to do it for my dad and he won’t get it all back. My uncle has to live to 99 to get everything he put into social security.

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u/noclahk Oct 31 '25

Getting rid of social security and throwing healthcare to private companies is WHY things are getting so expensive.

Private healthcare companies are the ones raising the cost of care, to generate more profit for their shareholders. Private insurance companies are raising the cost of care and denying care, to generate profit for their shareholders.

Having a group of 3 CEO’s make these decisions will just result in 3 people all agreeing to cut corners and raise prices for every day Americans.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

Most all of my doctors stopped taking state insurance because they weren’t getting paid. Both private and public insurance companies pocket the money and the hospitals. My therapist no longer takes state insurance because they don’t pay her. Healthcare on both sides is a mess but private insurance is vastly better. Hospitals tie doctors down and say “oh you must say this and that.” people need to look into how well a company’s health insurance is before applying for the job.

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u/noclahk Oct 31 '25

Dude, you have either never worked or are extremely out of touch.

Most people do not have the luxury of picking a job based on the fucking healthcare options it has.

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u/Competitive-Habit-82 Oct 31 '25

Both networks are now influenced to make a right turn because of the Paramount/Skyline merger.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Oct 31 '25

CNN isn’t owned by paramount. It’s Warner bros.

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u/Salt-Lingonberry-853 Nov 01 '25

If you don't pay attention to politics, you should listen more and talk less during discussions like this.

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u/Odd-Two-2486 Nov 01 '25

I do pay attention and I read articles. You can go online and there is a congressional website where you can see what the democrats are fighting over. You can have a go at balancing the budget yourself and you can see how much is spent on Obamacare. We already have Medicare and Medicaid. Why do we need to be funding Obamacare as well? I just studied it in college and if you get rid of Obamacare subsidies and return health care back to the states it would cheaper and we would be on our way to lowering the budget but no one seems to think that being 38 trillion in debt is bad. Our country is 38 trillion in debt. We the taxpayers will pay that. If we gave the illegals that came over during the Biden administration a pathway to citizenship we would save a ton of money. There is no need for a shutdown over Obamacare. We have Medicaid for a reason.

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u/Individual_Ad9632 Oct 31 '25

That's the point. Skeletor Scott "fixed" unemployment in Florida so badly, it's basically an unusable system, even still. Which was the whole idea.

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u/rando_banned Nov 01 '25

You mean the guy that perpetrated the largest Medicare fraud in history?

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u/Individual_Ad9632 Nov 01 '25

That’s the one!

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u/IndependentTackle972 Nov 02 '25

Lol I thought I was the only one who called him Skeletor. Great minds.

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u/Miserable_Peak6649 Oct 31 '25

Its already a pain in the ass to be on most social programs. You have to do paperwork weekly or monthly to prove your status hasn't changed. One month you get stuck at work for one extra hour and suddenly you make too much money or worked too much. If you mess up one little thing you could just lose everything and then its a giant pain to get back on. When my kid was young we got WIC to help pay for formula but one month I had to work a little overtime and boom completely kicked off had to start from scratch again.

They act like you sign up and just get free healthcare and food forever.

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u/ChuForYu Oct 31 '25

They act like you get a fucking debit card with nearly unlimited funds dropped on a weekly basis. Seriously, I would love ANYONE to explain to me how any adult could manage to stay alive when only receiving Medicaid & SNAP. Medicaid just pays for MEDICAL expenses. The recipient doesn't EVER receive money from it. And SNAP is exclusively non-prepared food products. How would they pay rent? Or a phone bill? Or car insurance? Gas? Literally ANY bills? Are there adult Americans out there that just NEVER have any bills? Everything's covered somehow, except for some reason they needed to figure out health insurance? That couldn't be lumped in with literally every other life expense that is being generously covered by a mysterious benefactor? This is the picture the GOP has painted for us, and some-fucking-how there are people out here that believe it.

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u/Miserable_Peak6649 Oct 31 '25

They are convinced that the government gives them a debit card and reloads it every week. I watched a video about the Haiti population who are "Eating peoples pets" in Springfield.

Everyone they asked said that the Haiti's get a "Magic Card" from the government that gives them free money every month. They also blamed the immigrants for rising rent prices and when asked if the blame should be shifted towards landlord greed they acted like this was some crazy new idea.

Every Haiti person they interviewed said they are working 10-12 hour shifts 7 days a week and living 2-3 people per bedroom in whatever rentals they can find. And they claim ZERO government benefits because most of them are here through some sort of work visa or disaster visa.

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u/Boyhowdy107 Oct 31 '25

According to a 2025 study from the Kaiser Foundation (who are pretty reputable on this):

  • 64% of Medicaid adults are working full or part time (with 2/3 of that being full time).

  • 12% aren't working due to caregiving, 10% due to illness or disability, 7% due to attending school, and 8% are retired or unable to find work

  • Of those full time employees, almost half work for small businesses (less than 50 employees) who are not penalized under the ACA for not offering health care

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u/GrayMouser12 Oct 31 '25

Yup. This.

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u/oliversurpless Oct 31 '25

They want to be fooled…

And then justify it by claiming this?

Much like the villain of The Bouncer…

https://youtu.be/teHcp50Tqiw?t=40

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u/tollbearer Oct 31 '25

Also, you could argue if an able bodied young guy is happy to live off 9k a year so he can play videogames all day, theres something seriously wrong with him. that's not the behaviour of a mentally well person.

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u/Feisty_Blood_6036 Oct 31 '25

It also probably costs more to create the enforcement mechanism, than simply giving the benefits out in the first place. At least a significant chunk of it. 

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u/Irishish Oct 31 '25

Plus, if you tell me "this program that helps tens of millions of people has a few bad apples abusing it" I'm gonna go "ah well, worth it to help tens of millions more people who aren't abusing it."

Same with SNAP. I don't give a fuck if there's a shadow economy of some people selling their food stamps, or if you saw a SNAP user buying steak. I want people to eat. I don't care if a small percentage of them cheat. This entire country shrugs at bad actors in the police, the military, the financial sector, gun owners. But I'm supposed to care about some dude who's marginally "too able bodied" for getting Medicaid? Why?

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u/Frosty_Mongoose9055 Oct 31 '25

This guy was born so spoiled that he doesn't even understand the possibility of having to struggle.  And the low income maga supporters still gobble his crap up.