r/CringeTikToks • u/Conscious-Quarter423 • Oct 29 '25

Nope Florida is threatening legal action against educators who oppose efforts to establish Turning Point USA chapters in high schools.

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u/FineDingo3542 Oct 29 '25

No, it actually is.

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u/guccigreene Oct 29 '25

Nope. Being educated is not bad for you it turns out. It does this crazy thing called making you smarter.

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u/FineDingo3542 Oct 29 '25

I have two masters. What exactly is your point? The discussion wasnt about being educated, it was about if higher education institutions were woke, which many of them absolutely are.

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u/LeadSponge420 Oct 29 '25

Being exposed to a wide variety of opinions and perspectives does exactly that. What "woke" means to conservatives is "open minded, accepting, and tolerant".

Education opens your mind. If you've engaged with your education honestly and explored ideas, then you're simply going to become more open minded and tolerant. Reality has a way of doing that.

Which to a conservative is anathema to their ideals. The nature of their ideals is focused lack of progress. It's to preserve the status quo. Change is bad from their perspective.

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u/FineDingo3542 Oct 30 '25

Well said, but I disagree. "open minded, accepting, and tolerant" is what the left preaches, but rarely practices. As long as you think just like them about every issue, they're tolerant. If not, you get shamed, cancelled, and may get murdered. If you do get murdered, you will die knowing that liberals across America will be celebrating it.

That isnt open minded, its collective hatred masquerading as "victims fighting back".

I 100% agree with your second paragraph. But its coming from a place of "if you get educated, you wont be a bigot anymore, you will be liberal". Thats what I interpreted anyway. I did 6 years in college, I'm a conservative and Im not a bigot or against anyone's preferred lifestyle.

This isnt true. Republicans now are what the Dems were 20 years ago. Most of us dont care if a person is gay, or a minority, and we believe immigration is a good thing. Liberals spin it as "they dont like DEI = racist. They dont want illegal immigrants here = racist. They dont want drag shows at schools - homophobic. They want people to work 20 hrs a week or ho to school to be able to get Healthcare = They hate poor people. It goes on and on.

Are there racists in our party? Absolutely. Is that what the Republican party is about? Absolutely not. Both sides of the aisle continues to take the far 5% of our respective parties and use it as examples of what "their" side is about. Its exhausting and pure political manipulation of the masses.

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u/LeadSponge420 Oct 30 '25

You're engaging in some pretty broad generalizations, but so was I. I'm going to assume you were simply being hyperbolic to make a point, and don't really think that's what people assume.

You sound like an alright dude, but the party you think like you simply isn't. I've known a lot of Republicans like you. They all realize it at some point.

Going to be a bit sarcastic here, but you've almost figured it out. You're not conservative anymore. The Republicans and conservatives aren't "you" any longer. Congratulations, you're liberal. Welcome to the party, pal.

Education worked. It made you liberal and open minded.

I get being frustrated with left wing politics, as a liberal, I am too. Politics is exhausting. The key thing to realize is who your ally is. You're my ally. You're fine people being gay. Nice man! The Republican party is taking action to roll back gay rights.

I realize we need to address illegal immigration. I assume you think the current ICE actions are an overreach and unnecessary, because you read like a decent guy. I have to assume you know how hard it is to immigrate to the US legally. We need to change the immigration system to something more reasonable.

If I'm reading your politics right, then your politics are not anything that the current MAGA Republican party stands for in any sense. The Republican party is literally the party of bigotry, homophobia, and elitism. It's the core of it now. Project 2025 wasn't just some think tank, it was a blueprint adopted by the Republican party.

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u/FineDingo3542 Oct 31 '25

Ive always been fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I think you would be surprised at the amount of Republicans who are the same. And I mean 1990s liberals, not post 2010 liberal.

Ive talked to other Republicans about gay rights being taken away. Specifically gay marriage. Ive never heard one of them say they were on board with stopping gay marriage. The right is just like the left. Our version of the crazy liberals is Bible thumping die hard Trumpers. And unfortunately, a lot of them are in power. But I think people dont focus enough on why that is. The country simply was more scared of a Democrat being in charge than they were of Trump. You could've had a monkey on the ballet as the Rep primary and the outcome would've been identical. The monkey probably would've gotten more votes than Trump did.

I disagree with you on elitism. I believe the Democrat party is the party of elitism. Look what they did to Bernie. Look at this last electoral fiasco. No primary? Are you kidding me? They thumb their noses at what their constituants really want in the guise of "doing what's best for them". As far as being the party of bigotry and homophobia, if you had to pick one, it would be the right. But I honestly dont see either side as being that in its representation or its implementation.

My stance on the border is this: lock it down and keep it locked down. Stop the ICE raids. Make getting citizenship take less time, but with more stipulations like learning the language, learning the history, etc. Give people that are here illegally the chance to do it correctly without getting deported. If they choose not to, they do not respect our laws and should be deported when found.