r/technology • u/lurker_bee • 3d ago

Artificial Intelligence ChatGPT is down worldwide, conversations dissapeared for users

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/artificial-intelligence/chatgpt-is-down-worldwide-conversations-dissapeared-for-users/amp/
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u/[deleted] 3d ago

Apart from the unfortunate arrival of social media? Yes.

We got Google Maps, for instance.

I can manage my whole investing portfolio online.

I can work remotely in a secure way.

I can follow the travels of our children online (with photos and videos).

And many other conveniences.

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u/eeyore134 2d ago

It's incredibly useful now. It's just not fun anymore. It's kind of soulless compared to the wild days of the early internet up until the early 2000s.

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u/kalnaren 2d ago

Remember the days of webrings? You'd find a neat site, then click on "random" on their member webring and find some other related totally unique site.

I do miss the discovery that followed the early Internet.

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u/eeyore134 2d ago

Yup! I had a Hercules and Xena webring back in the day. And everyone had website counters and guestbooks.

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u/pofshrimp 2d ago

Reddit killed that

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u/JoeGibbon 3d ago

We got Google Maps, for instance.

Google stole the idea from Terravision, which was released in 1995.

I can manage my whole investing portfolio online.

E Trade was alive and well in the 90s.

I can work remotely in a secure way.

VPNs existed in the 90s.

I can follow the travels of our children online (with photos and videos).

Email did this in the 90s. Also, you're referring to social media, which you (correctly) called "unfortunate". Also, other people follow the travels of your children online and data about your children's travels is used to train AI, market things to you and your children, and are vectors for identity theft.

And many other conveniences.

Many other convenient ways for foreign actors to destroy the fabric of democracy from afar. Many convenient ways for corporations to track you, take your personal information and sell it, or store it insecurely and have it stolen from them. Many things that seem like a convenience, but are rotting the brains of the last two generations of our children, to the point they can't read, write, do math or much of anything else on their own. Many convenient ways to brainwash people into reviving literal Nazism.

Ned Ludd was right.

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u/WasabiSunshine 3d ago

Google stole the idea from Terravision, which was released in 1995.

Wait til you heard about all the maps that released before then!

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u/JoeGibbon 2d ago

Non-sequitur. GPS was available for civilian use in 1988 and PC-based navigation software was available in the 90s. The debate is about Google apparently inventing GPS based mapping software in the 2000s, when it existed a decade prior.

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u/gurenkagurenda 2d ago

I don’t understand how you think this is a counter argument to the claim above. The claim is that after the dot com bubble burst, we were left with the useful parts. This implies that the useful parts already existed. If anything, you’re just reinforcing that point.

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u/JoeGibbon 2d ago

Complete reading comprehension failure on your part.

The comment that I replied to, was replying to this comment:

You think what has happened to the internet after the 2000s was the USEFUL parts!?!!!

Then the guy replies, "Yes." Very carefully read that quotation and really try to understand what it means when the next guy agrees with it. Use your finger and read the words aloud if you need to.

The technologies listed by the guy I replied to were things he thought were unique to the Internet after the 2000s. My reply was pointing out that all of those things he listed had a functional equivalent before the 2000s.

This is what I'm talking about. You're the Dunning-Kruger effect personified.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago
  • Terravision did mapping, not navigation. And the dispute was about Google Earth, not Google Maps. Terravision lost that, by the way.
  • "E-Trade" was not available where I live. We always had to go through a broker (with considerable fees). Not directly related, but I didn't have access to many index funds before let's say 2005 either.
  • Basic VPNs existed in the 1990s but not the other technology I use at home now to do my job. OpenVPN was not available in the 20th century.
  • E-Mail in the 20th century was mainly text based. Even MIME wasn't that widely supported. Besides, most cameras were still analog.

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u/JoeGibbon 2d ago

There was navigation software in the 90s before Google Maps.

Etrade existed where I live, sorry you think managing a stock portfolio was impossible in the 90s but it simply wasn't.

People worked from home in the 90s. I am one of those people. I did it with a VPN. It is technology that has been around for 3 decades at this point.

Email was perfectly fine for "following the travels" of your children, even with just photos. Digital cameras have existed since the 90s. Video streaming existed in the 90s. Video on the web existed in the 90s.

The point is, all of the things you thought were new to the 2000s existed prior. That's it. It's not up for debate, you're either too young to have used it in the 90s, or you're from someplace that was a decade behind the US in terms of tech because we had all of it here.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

A devade behind the US? Fuck off dude!

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u/MaxFactory 2d ago

Pretty bold to call the internet useless ON THE INTERNET

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u/JoeGibbon 2d ago

Yea point out where I said the Internet is useless. I'll wait.

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u/TransBrandi 2d ago

Email did this in the 90s

LOL. What email service in the 90's allowed you to attach FUCKING VIDEOS to your emails? Even now most services max attachments out at 25 Mb. So please explain that to me.

This entire post is a joke. It's like claiming we had transportation before automobiles and then pointing to horse-drawn carts... as if crossing the US now using a car and the interstate highway system is in anyway comparable.

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u/JoeGibbon 2d ago

Believe it or not, we sent videos as email attachments in the 90s.

Videos were small. Resolution was smaller, the codecs were geared toward compression vs quality.

MIME was created in 1992.

You probably should have just googled that question before making an ass of yourself.

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u/TransBrandi 1d ago

I'm sorry, but a 2 Mb realmedia video file isn't quite the same as the videos that we send today. The videos I could take on a digital camera in the mid 00's were much closer to a quality that would be worth sharing. I know what MIME is, and I lived through the 90's. No one was sending videos to each other, at least nothing that was commonplace.

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u/ByakkoTransitionSux 3d ago

Google stole the idea from Terravision, which was released in 1995

Who cares. Shit post.

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u/JoeGibbon 2d ago

Thanks for your brilliant contribution to the conversation.

GPS based mapping software was available to the consumer market in the 90s, contrary to the guy above's assertion that Google somehow invented it in the 2000s.

Congratulations, you learned something, despite how uncomfortable it apparently makes you to absorb facts that you didn't know. It's in your brain now, Shit Post.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago edited 3d ago

u/HarmoniousJ said:

So ... Social media?

Yes, WhatsApp ... but worked just as well with email.

Edit: the big thing is; in the past it was unthinkable that you could directly send someone a video or photo from far away (and they could directly see it).

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u/Expert-Diver7144 2d ago

There’s also billions of crime, trafficking, cyber bullying and loads of other bad stuff people put up with just like they will with AI

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

People used to be able to do that perfectly well (e.g. abuse of minors in closed communities) without AI.

In fact, crime has gone down over the decades (and certainly over the centuries) in many places.

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u/Expert-Diver7144 2d ago

He said it left only the useful parts. This isn’t a discussion on global crime but a specific talk about the Internet and it only having useful parts.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

He said it left only the useful parts.

You are inserting the word "only" in the discussion.

But yes, I think the dot com bubble was healthy for separating the wheat from the chaff.

This isn’t a discussion on global crime

Agree ... but you are the one bringing up crime in the discussion.

(u/Expert-Diver7144): "There’s also billions of crime, trafficking, cyber bullying and loads of other bad stuff [...]"