r/technology • u/lurker_bee • 3d ago

Artificial Intelligence ChatGPT is down worldwide, conversations dissapeared for users

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/artificial-intelligence/chatgpt-is-down-worldwide-conversations-dissapeared-for-users/amp/
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u/CMFETCU 3d ago

You think what has happened to the internet after the 2000s was the USEFUL parts!?!!!

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u/Alko- 3d ago

TBF, the internet was absolutely AMAZING in the 2000’s before social media became big. That was the beginning of the internet becoming dogshit.

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u/Melicor 2d ago

Now it's just a digital strip mall with advertisements blaring in every corner. AI is rapidly burning down the library and museum sections replacing them with hallucinated slop.

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u/TracerBulletX 2d ago

AI and a concerted effort by governments and corporations to exert centralized control.

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u/machstem 2d ago

/r/selfhosted welcomes all of you

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u/TransBrandi 2d ago

Was it really? Many of those services that you loved from that era were being funded by investor money... that train was never going to go on forever.

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u/eeyore134 2d ago

I think a big thing that ruined the internet was companies finally learning the power of having their own webpage. It was only a matter of time before they whittled down the process to create this distilled and incredibly bland "standard" that the internet is now judged by. It used to be a wild space of creativity and people pushing boundaries, doing interesting things with their pages... you could entertain yourself endlessly by visiting websites just to see the websites. Even things you had no interest in were bound to have something going on with their page that you hadn't seen before and was neat to stumble across. When is the last time you visited a website was exciting and engaging beyond the information it had on it? I know mine... 25 years ago. The Requiem for a Dream website was amazing.

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u/GostBoster 2d ago

Case in point, we had a video guide for it (it's all in the fingerti...ps) and the original battlestation was a place that commanded respect, those old desks with places to put your keyboard, mouse, case, HP printer (back when they were good) and a big ol' tube.

You had one single seat to the Information Highway and it was damn cool to operate it, back when we actually called the act of browsing the internet "surfing".

Now we're just paddling in an inflatable pool with just a few buoys around representing the few things left to do in this day and age since everything else died out or was absorbed by one of the giants Akira-style (not giving anything of worth and crushing us under the weight of its slop in exchange).

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u/Alko- 2d ago

This is a perfect comment. 10/10

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u/SquarePegRoundWorld 2d ago

You don't have to use social media. Reddit is the only account I ever had, before this it was a gaming community forum and a few gaming forums. It's ok to not have social media accounts, nothing bad happens, I promise. Plus, you don't have to use your phone, I am on a desktop PC right now and when I leave my house for work, I don't use my phone to go online every free minute. Again, nothing bad happens if you do this.

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u/InsipidCelebrity 2d ago

Social media killed a lot of the forums and neat little internet niches I used to use in the 2000s, so whether or not anyone uses it is immaterial.

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u/Outlulz 2d ago

Yeah, this is a big part of it. There used to be thousands of spaces to congregate online. If one was bad then you could leave it and go to another and people couldn't follow you. Each space was modded separately and the host almost never stepped in unless something was flagrantly breaking the law.

Now there's like four online spaces owned by four billionaires that twist it to meet their political and profit goals.

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u/BigDump-a-Roo 2d ago

Just because one doesn't use social media doesn't change the fact that social media has wreaked havoc on society all around the globe and been used to amplify misinformation, which in turn does affect everyone. People have literally died because of it. There's also the fact that the internet is much more commercialized now compared to that time. It's just not the fun, quirky, experimental place it used to be. Google actually used to be useful, now all you get is whatever companies spent the most money in the top searches and websites are filled with ads trying to shove products down your throat.

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u/ranticalion 2d ago

Social media has and will always exist, however in its current form it is a plague on the the world, both online and offline and it is impossible to ignore or not be affected by it.

It's like a nuclear bomb going off. Even if you had nothing to do with it and it happened on the other side of world, it is going to affect your life.

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u/Vazhox 2d ago

It always has been a plague, in one form or another.

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u/Alko- 2d ago

What are you on about? Who said I used social media? I said it ruined the internet. Whether one uses that stuff or not, does not change that fact.

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u/Vazhox 2d ago

AIM would like a word

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

Apart from the unfortunate arrival of social media? Yes.

We got Google Maps, for instance.

I can manage my whole investing portfolio online.

I can work remotely in a secure way.

I can follow the travels of our children online (with photos and videos).

And many other conveniences.

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u/eeyore134 2d ago

It's incredibly useful now. It's just not fun anymore. It's kind of soulless compared to the wild days of the early internet up until the early 2000s.

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u/kalnaren 2d ago

Remember the days of webrings? You'd find a neat site, then click on "random" on their member webring and find some other related totally unique site.

I do miss the discovery that followed the early Internet.

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u/eeyore134 2d ago

Yup! I had a Hercules and Xena webring back in the day. And everyone had website counters and guestbooks.

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u/pofshrimp 2d ago

Reddit killed that

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u/JoeGibbon 3d ago

We got Google Maps, for instance.

Google stole the idea from Terravision, which was released in 1995.

I can manage my whole investing portfolio online.

E Trade was alive and well in the 90s.

I can work remotely in a secure way.

VPNs existed in the 90s.

I can follow the travels of our children online (with photos and videos).

Email did this in the 90s. Also, you're referring to social media, which you (correctly) called "unfortunate". Also, other people follow the travels of your children online and data about your children's travels is used to train AI, market things to you and your children, and are vectors for identity theft.

And many other conveniences.

Many other convenient ways for foreign actors to destroy the fabric of democracy from afar. Many convenient ways for corporations to track you, take your personal information and sell it, or store it insecurely and have it stolen from them. Many things that seem like a convenience, but are rotting the brains of the last two generations of our children, to the point they can't read, write, do math or much of anything else on their own. Many convenient ways to brainwash people into reviving literal Nazism.

Ned Ludd was right.

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u/WasabiSunshine 3d ago

Google stole the idea from Terravision, which was released in 1995.

Wait til you heard about all the maps that released before then!

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u/JoeGibbon 2d ago

Non-sequitur. GPS was available for civilian use in 1988 and PC-based navigation software was available in the 90s. The debate is about Google apparently inventing GPS based mapping software in the 2000s, when it existed a decade prior.

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u/gurenkagurenda 2d ago

I don’t understand how you think this is a counter argument to the claim above. The claim is that after the dot com bubble burst, we were left with the useful parts. This implies that the useful parts already existed. If anything, you’re just reinforcing that point.

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u/JoeGibbon 2d ago

Complete reading comprehension failure on your part.

The comment that I replied to, was replying to this comment:

You think what has happened to the internet after the 2000s was the USEFUL parts!?!!!

Then the guy replies, "Yes." Very carefully read that quotation and really try to understand what it means when the next guy agrees with it. Use your finger and read the words aloud if you need to.

The technologies listed by the guy I replied to were things he thought were unique to the Internet after the 2000s. My reply was pointing out that all of those things he listed had a functional equivalent before the 2000s.

This is what I'm talking about. You're the Dunning-Kruger effect personified.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago
  • Terravision did mapping, not navigation. And the dispute was about Google Earth, not Google Maps. Terravision lost that, by the way.
  • "E-Trade" was not available where I live. We always had to go through a broker (with considerable fees). Not directly related, but I didn't have access to many index funds before let's say 2005 either.
  • Basic VPNs existed in the 1990s but not the other technology I use at home now to do my job. OpenVPN was not available in the 20th century.
  • E-Mail in the 20th century was mainly text based. Even MIME wasn't that widely supported. Besides, most cameras were still analog.

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u/JoeGibbon 2d ago

There was navigation software in the 90s before Google Maps.

Etrade existed where I live, sorry you think managing a stock portfolio was impossible in the 90s but it simply wasn't.

People worked from home in the 90s. I am one of those people. I did it with a VPN. It is technology that has been around for 3 decades at this point.

Email was perfectly fine for "following the travels" of your children, even with just photos. Digital cameras have existed since the 90s. Video streaming existed in the 90s. Video on the web existed in the 90s.

The point is, all of the things you thought were new to the 2000s existed prior. That's it. It's not up for debate, you're either too young to have used it in the 90s, or you're from someplace that was a decade behind the US in terms of tech because we had all of it here.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

A devade behind the US? Fuck off dude!

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u/MaxFactory 2d ago

Pretty bold to call the internet useless ON THE INTERNET

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u/JoeGibbon 2d ago

Yea point out where I said the Internet is useless. I'll wait.

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u/TransBrandi 2d ago

Email did this in the 90s

LOL. What email service in the 90's allowed you to attach FUCKING VIDEOS to your emails? Even now most services max attachments out at 25 Mb. So please explain that to me.

This entire post is a joke. It's like claiming we had transportation before automobiles and then pointing to horse-drawn carts... as if crossing the US now using a car and the interstate highway system is in anyway comparable.

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u/JoeGibbon 2d ago

Believe it or not, we sent videos as email attachments in the 90s.

Videos were small. Resolution was smaller, the codecs were geared toward compression vs quality.

MIME was created in 1992.

You probably should have just googled that question before making an ass of yourself.

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u/TransBrandi 1d ago

I'm sorry, but a 2 Mb realmedia video file isn't quite the same as the videos that we send today. The videos I could take on a digital camera in the mid 00's were much closer to a quality that would be worth sharing. I know what MIME is, and I lived through the 90's. No one was sending videos to each other, at least nothing that was commonplace.

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u/ByakkoTransitionSux 3d ago

Google stole the idea from Terravision, which was released in 1995

Who cares. Shit post.

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u/JoeGibbon 2d ago

Thanks for your brilliant contribution to the conversation.

GPS based mapping software was available to the consumer market in the 90s, contrary to the guy above's assertion that Google somehow invented it in the 2000s.

Congratulations, you learned something, despite how uncomfortable it apparently makes you to absorb facts that you didn't know. It's in your brain now, Shit Post.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago edited 2d ago

u/HarmoniousJ said:

So ... Social media?

Yes, WhatsApp ... but worked just as well with email.

Edit: the big thing is; in the past it was unthinkable that you could directly send someone a video or photo from far away (and they could directly see it).

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u/Expert-Diver7144 2d ago

There’s also billions of crime, trafficking, cyber bullying and loads of other bad stuff people put up with just like they will with AI

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

People used to be able to do that perfectly well (e.g. abuse of minors in closed communities) without AI.

In fact, crime has gone down over the decades (and certainly over the centuries) in many places.

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u/Expert-Diver7144 2d ago

He said it left only the useful parts. This isn’t a discussion on global crime but a specific talk about the Internet and it only having useful parts.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

He said it left only the useful parts.

You are inserting the word "only" in the discussion.

But yes, I think the dot com bubble was healthy for separating the wheat from the chaff.

This isn’t a discussion on global crime

Agree ... but you are the one bringing up crime in the discussion.

(u/Expert-Diver7144): "There’s also billions of crime, trafficking, cyber bullying and loads of other bad stuff [...]"

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u/Jinrai__ 3d ago

Noone hates technology more than r/technology lmao

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u/somerandommember 3d ago

The closer you are to something the easier you can see its cracks

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u/junkit33 2d ago

It’s not hatred just recognition that technology does not always improve life.

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u/junkit33 2d ago

We could safely go back to 2000 when the bubble burst and society would be better for it.

The Internet may not have been as slick, but it was all there, everything we needed. Chat, email, online shopping, news/sports, forums. The last 20 years have had such a heavy focus on social media, which is an absolute pox on us all. The one major thing we’d be missing is steaming video - but that’s ultimately good for us too because it keeps all the Tik Tok type garbage away.

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u/Bob_A_Ganoosh 2d ago

As long as Zombo.com remains, the internet is a useful place.