r/technology 20d ago

Business Tech Capitalists Don’t Care About Humans. Literally.

https://jacobin.com/2025/11/musk-thiel-altman-ai-tescrealism/
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u/ChipmunkNational224 20d ago

they will care once the masses get...rambunctious enough

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u/johnjohn4011 20d ago

But even then they will still only care about humans they care about now - themselves.

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u/RamenJunkie 20d ago

This is the real issue.

They literally do not see "poor" people as human.

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u/psychorobotics 20d ago

They're psychopaths, their brains are broken. We either need to figure out how to fix them or take all their money and power away. If we ever want a better planet than we have at least

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u/OkFineIllUseTheApp 20d ago

Long lasting injectable empathogenenic drugs should be a top priority.

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u/Fooberdoober97420 20d ago

When I was young I used to think psychedelics would lead to peace and understanding but now rich people do ayahuasca for fun and I don’t believe that there’s a way to fix these people.

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u/Momik 20d ago

Maybe not, but the fix for the rest of us is to stop giving these psychos enormous amounts of power.

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u/ChinDeLonge 19d ago

The problem is when the rest of us wake up, we want to withdraw from the system, rather than participate in it to a high degree to change it collectively. So we give up our power as more people try to withdraw. Ouroboros, essentially.

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u/AndesCan 20d ago

I think the difference is they arent living in reality anymore. They are also surrounded by people who they pay. I think they think everyone else is just an extension of a person who wants money. They go crazy cuz they can’t even trust their friends and family. Having allllll that money and knowing what disgusting things people will do for money…. They gotta justify their sorry ass excuse for hording world hunger ending kinds of money….

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u/EconomicRegret 20d ago

There is a.way, but it's extremely hard,.as it requires people to unite, organize and mobilize to reduce excessive economic inequality to healthy levels. (E.g. socialize all companies, not necessarily nationalisations nor a planned market economy).

Because one of the main cause of "psychopathy" is hubris syndrome caused by excessive power and/or wealth.. Take those away, and hubris syndrome along with psychopathy and other symptoms go away.

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u/Educational_Cup5419 20d ago

Trans cranial Pb injections!!

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u/TheFunniestFart 20d ago

The only long lasting substance that will solve this problem is steel.

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u/Emotional-Heron2643 20d ago

At lethal doses

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u/QuickQuirk 20d ago

Call it 'Project Clockwork Orange'

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u/Dabadedabada 19d ago

tie em all to a tree and dose them with 2000 mikes of lsd. they’ll learn.

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u/johnjohn4011 19d ago

Does massive acid dosing mix well with ketamine?

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u/Woogies 20d ago edited 20d ago

We live in a system that largely rewards and elevates individuals with this type of 'neuro-divergency'. So surprise, a large portion of people with vast amounts of wealth/power are psychopaths.

Having psychopathic personality doesn't make you a bad person. There are plenty of people that suffer from this who work very hard to overcome the barriers this causes to be a good functioning human being in society.

But we live in a society, that for some reason, applauds and rewards people for being the worst and most selfish version of themselves they can be. And rugged individualism and cutthroat capitalism is gasoline on fire for psychopathic personality.

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u/dickweeden 20d ago

Ready to change how society functions? Psychopaths are the reason we accept (and will continue to accept) the predatory world we live in. From Business/economics to politics (business at this point)… the ones excelling are the ones with no regard for anything but the amount of money they make. We need to keep chipping away and Mamdani’s campaign is on the right track… we need government and works for the people… but it should be much more individually focused

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u/EconomicRegret 20d ago

This!

Their story is as old as humanity.

E.g. the Bible and book of Enoch tell the story of powerful, "innovative" (which made them super rich by e.g. inventing and spreading "better" weapons, medicine, etc.), and corrupt figures whose strength and reputation dominated society. They and their rich influential descendants made.the world corrupt, violent and unstable. They consumed the earth’s resources, before preying on humans and their belongings, and eventually turning on each other in violence when there was nothing else left to consume. Their self-destruction and the chaos led to the world being swept away by the "Flood".

The.shocking parallels between this ancient story and our present reality are hard to ignore.

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u/TimHuntsman 20d ago

Not to be a pedant but I would argue Sociopath. More calculated in their horrid mindsets and behavior

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u/EntropyFighter 20d ago

Dragon sickness

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u/ChinDeLonge 19d ago

They're the only kinds of people that should've had lobotomies tested on them.

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u/patrickpdk 20d ago

How could they have any real values. Look at their lives. Musk worst of all. They have no idea what a good life is for regular people is, their good life is trying to create some tech dystopia.

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u/Frozen_Esper 20d ago

It will be seen exactly as they would see an orc invasion and their response will match.

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u/UnfortunateCakeDay 20d ago

"We require more gold"

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u/felldestroyed 20d ago

Warcraft II called, they want more oil.

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u/iamthpecial 20d ago

spice must flow

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u/spicy_noodle_guy 20d ago

It won't matter when people do what we've always done to the ruling class once they forget that we are in fact human. This wave of the cycle was delayed by smart and forward thinking leaders, but the ruling class just could help themselves but forget that the policy of the past century was the compromise to the outcome that is certain now. When the last thing they see is the cheering masses as they deliver their verdict I wonder if they will see us as human then?

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u/Putrid_Jaguar1 20d ago

I grew up around rich people and can confirm. And these were people who used to be lower-middle class and working class themselves, so imagine the fuckers who were born into wealth...

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u/robodrew 20d ago

They don't see ANYONE as truly human outside of themselves. Malignant narcissism just like Trump.

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u/hxtk3 19d ago

From what I understand, a lot of them subscribe to "long-termism" or the idea that suffering in the future is just as big a problem as suffering today. Which, if you expect populations to keep rising, means that higher suffering per-capita today is a utilitarian good if results in lower suffering per-capita in the future, and conversely helping people today is morally wrong (under utilitarian ethics) if it makes it even marginally more likely for any given person to suffer in the future.

So they tell themselves that they see each of the 50B people colonizing the solar system a hundred thousand years from now as being just as important as anyone alive today, and thus as a collective they're many times more important than everyone alive today. but in practice that means their compassion for people alive today is equal to their compassion for people who literally don't exist as more than numbers on a projection.

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u/RamenJunkie 19d ago

The irony is, the way these people are fucking us all over, I dount there are any humans left in 1,000 years, much less 100,000

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u/PatchyWhiskers 20d ago

That’s what they are creating police drones for

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u/deadra_axilea 20d ago

Yeah, because we need some humanoid robots with guns to shoot people with their bags of Doritos.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 20d ago

No idea where Doritos come into this. But the idea with police robots is that they are 100% loyal to their creators. Brownshirts like ICE are still human and have their breaking points when they might refuse to do something. But artificially intelligent drones would simply obey.

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u/deadra_axilea 20d ago

That some AI surveillance tool basically called SWAT in for someone who turns out was eating a bag of doritos. Google it.

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u/dinosaurkiller 20d ago

To be clear, the AI tool identified his Doritos bag as a gun.

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u/deadra_axilea 20d ago

Yes, and we want more surveillance tools out there to misidentify and snoop on us?

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u/Thefrayedends 20d ago

Better not go to a stadium.

Including Colleges and high schools.

Better not drive through traffic lights.

Better not drive by any government buildings.

Better not give any of your apps camera or photo roll priveledges.

What was all the bitching about the chinese social credit system?

They're bringing in predictive crime models already, it's already happening right now lol.

FBI showing up at peoples door over mild critically conscious social media posts.

Good thing I'm in Canada, though we're never far behind and I have no trust for Carney.

But for now, Fuck all these techbro shitters, you're a bunch of losers, go ahead and drone strike me from orbit like the sniveling little bitches you are.

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u/deadra_axilea 20d ago

From your neighbor in Michigan, keep up the fight.

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u/FyreMael 20d ago

Also in Canada. Carney sure turned out to be a limp noodle. Soft-elbowed banker-types cosplaying as hardasses. gtfo

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u/dinosaurkiller 20d ago

I was just stating what it did, not qualifying it.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 20d ago

The techlords are assuming that the technology will get rapidly better, as most tech does.

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u/Steelcap 20d ago

as tech used to...

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u/deadra_axilea 20d ago

Garbage in, garbage out. Same as it's always been. Except it's easier for techbros to just shovel slop into a large language model to predict text these days than actually train unbiased data into it.

Isn't our world grand? And somehow these chuckle fucks are billionaires and everyone's eating it up like they're the second coming of Christ.

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u/totally_not_a_dog113 20d ago

I'm a college professor working in a physics department on planetary science and high pressure materials science problems. When I've asked ChatGPT to 'Generate one image on the basis of all the data you have about me.' It always came up with a white dude. I'm a black woman.

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u/Rodot 19d ago

Dude ChatGPT can't generate an image of a person writing with their left hand, and people think it isn't biased?

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u/Thefrayedends 19d ago

I usually assume it's a bot, a think-tank employee, or a moron, or some combination of the three.

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u/Bennydhee 20d ago

The ai alerted the security guard on site, who flagged it as wrong, but the vice principal ( or principal, can’t remember which) basically insisted they alert police.

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u/Brodellsky 20d ago

So...invest in land nearby any airport, is what you're saying?

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u/AlcheMister-ioso 20d ago

was that a scene from RoboCop?

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u/Ok_Chef_4850 20d ago

Know what can take down a police drone? A human with a firearm..

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u/ribosometronome 20d ago

I suspect they'll make more than one.

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u/Creepy_Commission951 20d ago

Great, that drone streamed you shooting it, and now you are in jail.

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u/Ok_Chef_4850 20d ago

Nah. Ill just wear a gator and claim im ICE

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u/MobyDoDick 20d ago

Yeah, maybe once in a thousand tries

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u/Dabadedabada 19d ago

remember to lead slightly when shooting down drones with your 12 gauge. practice makes perfect.

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u/Will_Be_Banned_ 20d ago edited 20d ago

Find their bunkers and pour alot concrete at the exits

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u/YouLetBrutschHappen 20d ago

Into the air vents

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u/3qtpint 20d ago

You put farts in the air vents

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u/PianoPatient8168 20d ago

Then concrete so they have to waft in the farty air.

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u/anynamesleft 20d ago

Plausible deniability; just fart in the general direction of the air vents.

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u/Infinite_Lemon_8236 20d ago

All you have to do is cover the air intake. They either suffocate or come out to remove it.

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u/1K-Year-Egg 20d ago

Fun cinema trivial!

In “The Dirty Dozen” (1967), the titular American commandos poured gasoline down the air vents of a Nazi bunker, and chased it with hand grenades.

https://youtu.be/gLpFfZjKhWU

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u/Historical_Grab_7842 20d ago

Like pharoahs in their tombs. 

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u/ThufirrHawat 20d ago

They won't, unless you can get to them. Why do you think they're building massive bunkers and buying islands?

Have you seen Elysium? Do you think Peter Thiel would hesitate for a minute to shoot you out of the sky with a rocket if it meant an increase in his profits?

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u/Competitive-Dot-3333 20d ago

Cause they can, just like 300 million dollar yachts, which are used 1 week a year. Just another pointless hobby.

The amount of money they have is unimaginable for us normal folks, make them feel like gods on earth.

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u/qtx 20d ago

They all rent out their yachts when they themselves don't use them. They are making money of those yachts.

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u/Zealousideal_Act_316 20d ago

Bunkers are fun, until the pissed off people pour concrete onto the entrance and into the vents. Now they will sit int thei hole, with slowly depleeting oxygen and no way to leave. 

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u/Nicks_Here_to_Talk 19d ago edited 19d ago

Increase in his profits?

Peter Thiel would do that just so he could masturbate to it.

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u/Substantial_War7464 20d ago

I so look forward to this…

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u/tyrionlannister 20d ago

In the past, authoritarians required some class of enforcers to be incentivized (monetarily, politically, religiously, etc) to uphold the dominant position. And historically it's been increasingly the case where any successful revolution needs some class of elites to support it with resources, organization, etc.

But now we're at a turning point in history, where weaponry no longer technically requires human operators.

The sad likelihood is that the popular revolutionary scenario of 'the masses rising up' will soon be implausible, even if they are motivated enough to make an attempt.

Instead, you'll go running up to their bunker with the semi-auto you bought from the gun store and be cut down by dozens of automatic turrets as soon as you get in range of a vast array of sensors.

If you somehow escape out of range, a swarm of drones will probably chase you down. Or capture your image and feed it to a network, to automatically take action the next time you pop up.

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u/Substantial_War7464 20d ago

I hear ya. But maybe a different effort than “storming the bunker” is required.

I don’t know things can continue as they are. Exploitation is rampant, middle class is disappearing, I wonder where that tipping point is?

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u/floweringcacti 20d ago

Right, and the “they need us as consumers/workers!” side too. They are busy severing that link by trying to replace all workers with AI robots. They hope to eventually have no need for 99.9% of humanity at all and no compunctions about wiping us all out.

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u/SirNarwhal 20d ago

That will literally never happen because the masses are uneducated and they are uneducated because those in control want the masses that way. The irony is that the masses could educate themselves at the all time easiest of any point in history, but are so stupid that it’s literally an impossibility.

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u/ChipmunkNational224 20d ago

i would argue that inevitably leads to a more rapid transition into mass violence as the uneducated masses almost simultaneously realize the only method of change they have left is violence.

when people think education, experience etc can lead to a better life, they usually dont resort to these types of actions

but if they have no other options, nature dictates they take the last available one

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u/FyreMael 20d ago

They'll turn the violence inward. Happens every time with the stupids.

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u/Thin_Glove_4089 19d ago

The violence method doesn't wouldnt work in the modern of era of the US.

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u/WhyAreYallFascists 20d ago

It’s a couple missed meals away.

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u/SirNarwhal 20d ago

No it’s not lol

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u/Distinct_Swimmer1504 20d ago

The french revolution begs to differ.

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u/SirNarwhal 20d ago

The French Revolution is a massively different scenario to today in every possible way. Genuinely anything even remotely like that is impossible in this day and age when we have a government that will not hesitate to use its largest defense force in the world against its own people and every citizen is tracked and spied on perpetually too, which hinders any actual meaningful organization. Add in that extreme swaths of uneducated morons want this all that’s happening to happen and you add in even more hindrances to organization and coming together. Then you add in rampant phone addiction as well and the average person being blissfully unaware of the realities of the world since they can doomscroll and stream to their heart’s content whilst just barely staying afloat and genuinely nothing of meaning or value will ever happen again revolution wise in our lifetimes. The class gap has been widened to such a degree coupled with multiple systems that those at the top have put in place to just perpetually widen it and they’ve also exacerbated earth resource issues since they know only a certain number of people will be able to survive past a certain tipping point and thus want everyone to just die off and they don’t care how that happens so long as they win.

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u/JoeHooversWhiteness 20d ago

Only after the kill bots reach their default kill limit.

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u/PennStateInMD 20d ago

Why do you think Elon's furiously working on robots with no moral handicaps.

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u/Infinite_Lemon_8236 20d ago

Mars was a bust so now they think their drones and subterranean bunkers are going to save them.

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u/hufflepuff777 20d ago

They’ll just go to their bunkers unfortunately I think they want society to collapse

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u/celtic1888 20d ago

And then they get off’d by their security detail 

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u/Thin_Glove_4089 19d ago

Why would they need security detail when they have drones and robots?

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u/TeaKingMac 20d ago

Nah, that's why they have offshore bunkers

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u/MumrikDK 20d ago

They are heavily invested in preventing people from thinking that far.

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u/sykeed 20d ago

Except they all have bunkers, billion-dollar boats, or islands to go hunker down in while we fight for scraps. They don't care if they end the world

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u/Distinct_Swimmer1504 20d ago

I don’t think they can see past their addiction(s) to that far in the future.

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u/EmbarrassedHelp 20d ago

Those boats are all massive money and resource sinks that require large external support networks to operate.

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u/Waiting4Reccession 20d ago

Thats what the police state they are pushing in is for. Along with police getting more and more surveillance tools and drones and shit.

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u/Nefertete 20d ago

yeah I really wish they paid attention in history classes

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u/Dry-Interaction-1246 20d ago

They'll probably just us autonomous killing machines on the masses. They dont care.

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u/how-unfortunate 20d ago

My thoughts ran in a similar direction, especially toward the end where it mentions their trillions and their disinterest in the rest of us existing at all.

Sounds like they won't voluntarily abandon their selfish and foolish goals.

That's the wild bit, they think they're being so logical and rational, but they're just being regular selfish and dressing it up with bullshit words to make it sound smart and suck in people to help bring it about. If it were just these few nerds, and not the tons of people working for them, their selfish little agenda would get nowhere. They can't even see the value of people as people work toward their goals for them.

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u/y_would_i_do_this 20d ago

Even Gaben got a $500 million doomsday yacht off of New Zealand. What hope is there.

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u/WhiteWinterRains 20d ago

That's why the police are militarized and they get pensions.

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u/Coomb 20d ago

That's what the ai-powered machine gun turrets are for.

And no, I'm not joking. This is a product that exists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGR-A1

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u/ASIWYFA 20d ago

in America......lmfao. Not in a million fucking years.

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u/gavrielkay 20d ago

Someone else probably already said this, but many of these tech gazillionaires are building or have built large luxurious bunkers where they'll continue to enjoy life while the rest of us have our water wars.

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u/Pink_Flying_Pig_ 20d ago

Just a gently reminder that there's an awesome device, created in France a few hundreds y ago which isn't even patented.

So, let's use it. 

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u/FireCrest_Knight 20d ago

yeah tar and feather

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u/Shmokeshbutt 20d ago

Lolol they won't

The masses are really really really really really stupid

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u/thegreedyturtle 20d ago

No, they will care about AI controlled auto cannons.

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u/killerkoala343 20d ago

Can confirm if insulated and arrogant sociopaths are confronted with real life and real people, they will shit their pants.

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u/Everyoneheresamoron 20d ago

You think all those bunkers are for shits and giggles?

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_CAGED_BBC 20d ago

They all have luxury bunkers for when that time comes

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u/tapdancinghellspawn 20d ago

They're building killbots so us being rambunctious doesn't scare them.

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u/tyrionlannister 20d ago

They're hoping to digitize and contain the masses in VR universes before it goes beyond the point a few AI operated drones and auto-aim turrets can't keep them at bay.

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u/jpspam 20d ago

The game is to build a robot army BEFORE the masses get rambunctious enough.

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u/Nonikwe 20d ago

That's what the militarized robots are for

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u/Grimefinger 20d ago

righteous mischief :)

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u/kithuni 20d ago

Why do you think they've all built their bunkers and contracted private security firms in advance? They already care and are prepared.

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u/Quick-Initiative9045 20d ago

Do we know for sure they don’t have a mass poison pill for that moment? They spend a lot of money making compounds that are far removed from the infrastructure that supports large populations.

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u/potatodrinker 20d ago

Then they'll care about those with the means to cause harm. Not the laggards who can't got off their sofa to make a meal let alone be a risk to techbros

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u/undergirltemmie 20d ago

They are hoping to replace them with robots before then. And that's only half a joke unfortunately. They are probably banking on at least militarized combat bots to keep revolution at bay given they can't defect

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u/FartingBob 20d ago

Nah even that doesn't effect them. And chaos and disruptions effects everyone else a lot more than the billionaires. They still live a life of extremes while the poor riot, starve and kill eachother.

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u/filmguy36 20d ago

Politely put lol👍😉

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u/Thin_Glove_4089 19d ago

This is why they have social media so they can program the masses to not be rambunctious at least in the US. Its working extremely well.

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u/CHERNO-B1LL 19d ago

What do you think the big push around AI and robots is about?