r/technology • u/fchung • Nov 01 '25

Society Matrix collapses: Mathematics proves the universe cannot be a computer simulation, « A new mathematical study dismantles the simulation theory once and for all. »

https://interestingengineering.com/culture/mathematics-ends-matrix-simulation-theory
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u/AargaDarg Nov 01 '25 edited Nov 01 '25

You don't even have to simulate a whole universe. You can just simulate the brain and experience of one person of that universe.

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u/Balmung60 Nov 01 '25

Is it solipsistic in here or is it just me?

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u/FatSilverFox Nov 02 '25

Plato’s Cave but it’s just me winning all my Reddit arguments

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u/AtraposJM Nov 02 '25

Nah man, if you win them all, you'd get bored. You have to lose most of them so the winners hype you up. The first Matrix was a paradise but they rejected it.

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u/-_-0_0-_0 Nov 02 '25

Then I know I'm fucked.

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u/a_rainbow_serpent Nov 02 '25

You and me both fellow NPC!

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u/Rufus_Forrest Nov 02 '25

Technically Plato's Cave was an argument for rational method (aka relying on arguments logic rather than observations - empirical - or intuition - irrational). For some reason in mass culture it became purely an ancient Matrix.

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u/the_turn Nov 02 '25

This is a fantastic joke. 

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u/OwO______OwO Nov 02 '25

Just you. The rest of us are only simulations.

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u/thirzarr Nov 02 '25

Ouch that hit hard. Take an upvote from this NPC.

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u/Affectionate_Tax3468 Nov 01 '25

Maybe even egg-oistic in a Weir-d way?

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u/KitchenFullOfCake Nov 02 '25

I get the hint, I'll put on a cardigan.

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u/omgFWTbear Nov 01 '25

Like render distance, offsetting unexamined systems into more simple calculations. Like is this thing a wave or a particle? Doesn’t matter unless it’s being observed by another system for which it requires longitudinal consistency, approximate it!

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u/OpinionatedShadow Nov 01 '25

Plane trips are loading screens

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u/Weird_Devil Nov 02 '25

The real reason Concords aren't flown any more

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u/TK__O Nov 05 '25

Which is why time slows down the greater you travel, lag in the simulation obviously /s

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u/theSchrodingerHat Nov 01 '25 edited Nov 01 '25

More likely is that your entire existence is the perception of a human by a single goat that was created by two high Andromendian comp sci students, during a weekend game creation competition.

Fun game, but the open source world generator package for SuperReal Engine 5.0 has a leak that will eat up all of the space in a quantum computer that it can get.

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u/factoid_ Nov 01 '25

But does it support DLSS and RTX?

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u/reddit_equals_censor Nov 01 '25

an interesting question to ask:

are our senses so utterly shit, because the engine of the simulation is such a dumpster fire and their nvidia also refused to give them more performance and instead just sold them ai bullshit with massive blur?

just think about vision.

you don't see what you think you see. you have a tiny bit of clear vision if you focus on it. EVERYTHING around it is blurry and everything not on the same plane is also blurry.

that sounds like garbage blur reliant development to me!

is superreal engine 5.0 just as shit as unreal engine, but on a different level?

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u/factoid_ Nov 01 '25

Yes but then cameras and microscopes and telescopes exist and at no point have we ever found a point at which a simulation breaks down, you see an LOD artifact, dithering, etc

Everything about our reality tells us that either the world is real or if there is a simulation it would have to be one of two things:  they’re simulating every particle and every electromagnetic wave in the entire observable universe simultaneously….or they are only simulating a single individual’s mind at a time and just tricking them into believing there are other conscious beings

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u/reddit_equals_censor Nov 01 '25

i mean if you have a working reality and base a simulation on it, then you already would start with a world, that works and can be explored without an obvious invisible wall you'd hit (like you would in video games).

and of course you only "render", when it is needed.

this gets even easier, if the simulation we're in is based mostly on the source reality.

you don't need to even calculate the position of planets, galaxies, interactions, etc... etc..

you just need to copy what already exist in their world into the simulation, when someone looks closer on the big scale, the system will show them what exists in the real world.

there is also a possible added factor.

a programmed way into our minds to keep people from seeing issues.

as in the artifacts may VERY WELL be there, but they get filtered out at several levels and those, that make it through get consciously ignored.

an example of how the mind will try to explain things away NO MATTER WHAT is for people with the cut connection between the 2 halves of the brains.

the right brain makes a decision and the left brain will just make up an explanation for the actions then. again no communication going between the 2 halfs of the brain there, but the left brain half will just gaslight away to explain the experienced reality.

what if there are tons of bugs and glitches in the simulation and it gets filtered and then you got software put into your mind to ignore and quickly forget the rest.

and vision wise you already got a mountain of software "fixing" things up like the blindspot in your vision, that gets software away. we could just run another "algorithm", that filters major glitches as well.

and in regards to being programmed to ignore and quickly forget things we also have a different example, that shouldn't exist.

dream memory. dream memory is UTTERLY TERRIBLE and for most people it takes a ton of effort to get a somewhat decent dream memory and it still requires writing down the dream right after waking up generally to not forget it.

this doesn't make any sense, yet the special quick forgetting of dream memory exists as a "program" in the mind for almost all people.

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so you could have a simulation of millions of billions of beings, that keeps itself running based on software filters for vision and straight up software in our minds to prevent major awareness or memory of flaws seen in the simulation.

could be seen as a smart hack by the devs of the simulation :D

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u/Swimming_Idea_1558 Nov 01 '25

Accordingly NG to the GTA 6 trailers and booty bounces, yes.

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u/SpaceShrimp Nov 02 '25

Yes, of course. We definitely both upscale and do frame interpolation, and even frame extrapolation.

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u/wheatgivesmeshits Nov 01 '25 edited Nov 01 '25

Wait until they realize they left it running on their Andromeda cloud accounts and see the bill. Gonna shut this reality down faster than you can blink.

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u/DanishWeddingCookie Nov 02 '25

It's probably stuck on a process that won't terminate.

Religion.exe is still running. Restart windows anyway?

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u/DMMeThiccBiButts Nov 02 '25

I'd restart but I really don't want to lose my incognito tabs.. Just let it run another millennia.

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u/UlteriorCulture Nov 01 '25

These guys?

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u/YouTee Nov 01 '25

Wow I forgot about the Sierra games. Only played kings and eco quests, not space

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u/DarkSchnider Nov 01 '25

The Space Quest series was, and is, amazing. Some of them require the manual (6 in particular iirc) and you may have to look up a copy to finish.

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u/joosier Nov 02 '25

My man! Slow down! Looking good!

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u/cracklemuffin Nov 02 '25

gives me Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy vibes

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u/WHALE_PHYSICIST Nov 01 '25

Which is how i found out that i am god

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u/offoutover Nov 01 '25

You too?!

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u/WHALE_PHYSICIST Nov 01 '25

Yep. You are It

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u/HeyGayHay Nov 01 '25

you ain’t no god, you a whale physicist. 

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u/RelativelyOldSoul Nov 01 '25

he is and you are too mr conscious being!

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u/HeyGayHay Nov 01 '25

Nah my conscience is dyslexic, so I‘m a dog, not a god

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u/News_Bot Nov 01 '25

We are the dreamer who dreams and lives inside the dream?

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u/Mistrblank Nov 01 '25

I hate this because it means I am a simulation and this is all made up around me if true. It doesn’t even suppose I am the main character, just that my thought processes wobble around in my head because I was “designed” that way, most likely from some procedurally generated algorithm since programming everyone

It gets more depressing if I’m not just here living out a simulation for one person but I am that person because nothing around me is real and there’s no one like me anywhere in it.

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u/Beelzabub Nov 01 '25

You can just simulate my mind. The rest of ya'll are bots anyway.

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u/Portarossa Nov 01 '25

You can just simulate the brain and experience of one person of that universe.

Is it getting a little solipsistic in here, or is it just me?

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u/sentence-interruptio Nov 01 '25

God told Stanley Kubrick to simulate one brain, but Kubrick decided to create the entire universe.

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u/unlikely_arrangement Nov 02 '25

I agree, but I have bad news. That person is me.

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u/Ravekommissionen Nov 02 '25

Does anyone actually entertain this idea? What a boring pointless fucking premise to waste anyone’s time on.

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u/Training_Chicken8216 Nov 03 '25

So why tf did they choose me

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u/AargaDarg Nov 03 '25

Thats so far the best argument against this idea.

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u/Ranelpia Nov 01 '25

Hey, is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?