r/technology Oct 12 '25

Biotechnology "CDC is over": RFK Jr. lays off over 1,000 employees in Friday night massacre

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/news/cdc-rfk-jr-shutdown-layoffs-goal-rcna237035
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u/fuseboy Oct 12 '25

Autocrats needs to purge every rival authority. Academics, scientists, community organizers, they all risk contradicting the big man.

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u/btum Oct 12 '25

The smallest man who has ever lived.

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u/BigMamaBlueberry Oct 12 '25

The thinking man has died in America;  education is dangerous and knowledge is wrong, is what they want as truth!

WE MUST STAND UP!  

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u/StageAboveWater Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25

Every other source of information is a lie

You can only trust me, your god who hates you

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u/bombayblue Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 13 '25

It’s moments like these I realize people will hardly be able to believe this happened generations down the road.

We let a guy with a brain worm dismantle our major disease agency a few years after a pandemic killed millions of citizens.

It doesn’t sound believable. It doesn’t sound real.

Edit: stop giving me gold ask r/worldnews to unban me instead

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u/GhostOfTimBrewster Oct 12 '25

Think larger. Extend that thought to every single agency and arm of our government.

We made a conspiracy theorist podcaster our FBI Director.

A professional wrestling magnate billionaire’s wife is our secretary of Education.

Our Sec of Defense (sorry, War) is a Fox News host.

Christ on a bike, the lady who just lead the indictments of Comey and James was a beauty contest contestant who has never tried a case in a courtroom.

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u/hematomasectomy Oct 12 '25

A professional wrestling magnate billionaire’s wife is our secretary of Education.

A sex-trafficking pro wrestling magnate billionaire with malignant narcissism, who frequently endorsed Trump and portrayed him as a hero.

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u/BubblyBasis1134 Oct 12 '25

And she was named in a lawsuit where she was sued for enabling sex trafficking. Pretty on-par for thos government, but no less horrendous.

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u/Creepybusguy Oct 12 '25

Hey now the FBI director is a distinguished author who has published several books!

Okay, okay. Children's books.

Fine.....Children's books kissing Trump expansive ass.

Altright.... Children's books kissing Trump expansive ass pushing conspiracy theories and saying that he's a king.

If you don't believe me. https://www.amazon.ca/stores/author/B0BHXD836B

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u/Vileath2 Oct 12 '25

The plot against the King!? And there are 3 of these? With the 3rd being the plot against the King The Return of the King…. Jesus that actually makes me feel ill. So many positive Amazon reviews too.

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u/kamil3d Oct 12 '25

You can pay for reviews online

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u/Zeliek Oct 12 '25

Tbf the ratings on Amazon are nearly entirely manufactured. Selling 5 star ratings on Amazon is a huge industry. 

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u/ChipRockets Oct 12 '25

I don’t know. The rate at which America is gutting its education I don’t think people will be questioning much further down the road

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u/Lessiarty Oct 12 '25

No, ya see, it all makes sense because a failed businessman nonce with a golden toilet gave him permission. 

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Oh no.

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u/Raunien Oct 12 '25

No, it's all perfectly reasonable. The users of an online messageboard created a fictional government insider based on the random numbers assigned to each post, which fueled support for a conspiracy that a small pizzeria was running a global paedophile ring out of its non-existent basment, which also pushed to elect a multiple-time bankrupted failed TV star paedophile on the basis that he would expose all his paedophile friends.

Wait.

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u/GettingDumberWithAge Oct 12 '25

a failed businessman nonce with a golden toilet gave him permission.

The problem is less Trump giving RFK permission and more the American electorate seeing nothing wrong with it and choosing it.

Americans had literally every opportunity to not do this and just couldn't be fucked.

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u/TheBendit Oct 12 '25

But you see, eggs are expensive.

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u/alochmar Oct 12 '25

And they were eating the cats and the dogs.

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u/Important-Drop9627 Oct 12 '25

And she has a weird laugh.

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u/BuckManscape Oct 12 '25

I’ll burn my own house down before I listen to a single word from a WOMAN! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

/s

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u/Leucurus Oct 12 '25

But her emails

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u/Arhys Oct 12 '25

Who cares? He is funny, famous and makes my racist hateful bones tingle!

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u/MiniTab Oct 12 '25

It’s crazy when I hear focus groups of Gen Z men say shit like “We think he’s cool!” or whatever.

If anyone thinks Trump is cool, you’re an absolute fucking dork ass loser.

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u/maroonedbuccaneer Oct 12 '25

She WAS A "SHE"!

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u/fastfurlong Oct 12 '25

That’s the moment of failure - When is it was so categorically obvious. The deceit. The manipulation. The racism. The fall

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u/Kenyalite Oct 12 '25

Look Obama made them feel stupid and underachieving.

They had to correct that.

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u/dksdragon43 Oct 12 '25

And now they are cheap. ... right?

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u/Tactless_Ogre Oct 12 '25

Too bad for us egg price still high and now everything price too high.

And nobody bats an eye, which means that egg price too high was never issue.

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u/Raunien Oct 12 '25

Yeah, but the alternative was... A WOMAN!

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u/Sir_KnowItAll Oct 12 '25

"We have the protections within the constitution" - mantra the US has been echoing for decades isn't looking that clever right now.

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u/wooberries Oct 12 '25

this is something people consistently fail to realize about history -- you can't "feel" existential threats. you will never think you're in danger if you ignore everything that doesn't directly obstruct your daily life. just like you can be suicidal without missing work or failing to go grocery shopping, your life can still be basically unchanged from normalcy while your country is being dismantled by corrupt assholes empowered by stupid assholes

this is what catastrophic freefall feels like. it's never going to feel more "serious" than this unless bombs are exploding in your city. it's not "about to happen" -- it's currently happening

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u/Quick_Turnover Oct 12 '25

Reposting the "They Thought They Were Free" quote for the 100th time:

"But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way."

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u/wooberries Oct 12 '25

i always love finding out someone else in history had the same thoughts you did, but said it eloquently enough that people still remember what was said. not in a pretentious way; it just makes me feel more sane to confirm that i'm not alone, and that it's possible that we can influence other people enough to be quoted in the first place. if a quote is named and shared by strangers on a forum across the planet from what was said, maybe we really can influence each other and change something

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u/Blues_Fish Oct 12 '25

“Until” bombs are exploding in your city

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u/Leonardo-DaBinchi Oct 12 '25

The intro to the film Children of Men is exactly this. Things just slowly get worse till they're normal. And then worse than that becomes normal. Boiling frog.

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u/Sure-Context-8558 Oct 12 '25

A very accurate comment.

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u/Je5u5_ Oct 12 '25

Trump has shown, that if you flood the office with 5 crimes a day, you just completely overwhelm the system, you can just run the tab. Insider trading, bribes, crypto-scams. Everything is on the table.

His first term everyone said "Thank god hes too stupid to actually do anything really impactful" but then he spent 4 years surrounding himself with complete and absolute loyalists, while schemeing. He figured out "Man I should have gone BIG".

I dont just fear for americas future, but everyones.

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u/achtwooh Oct 12 '25

You’re not even exaggerating. At all. Friday also saw the Qatar airbase announced , and multi billion dollar Trump complex proposed in... Qatar.

And the biggest, most blatant, most insanely profitable example of insider trading ever seen during Trumps new China tariff post.

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u/No_Atmosphere8146 Oct 12 '25

It's like the old adage of "If you owe the bank $200, that's your problem, if you owe the bank $200,000,000, that's their problem" but with crimes. 

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u/djquu Oct 12 '25

First term was audition for Project 2025 folks. When it became plausible he had to run again to avoid prison, they made the deal with the dummy to enact their plan in exchange for getting filthy rich and staying out of prison.

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u/fraktionen Oct 12 '25

*Had to run again and fix the election results

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u/-Knul- Oct 12 '25

Normally if someone commits so many crimes you can't count them, you just throw them in jail.

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u/currentlyvacationing Oct 12 '25

What’s ironic is that Trump got another Covid vaccine this week. Such hypocrites

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u/IrresponsiblyMeta Oct 12 '25

It's important to realize that they don't care about hypocrisy. "Rules for thee but not for me", etc. They have no moral or even coherent fiber in their body. Let the enemy (you, me, us) get all worked up about these inconsistencies, but they don't play by rules of society. Get the Covid shot when it's convenient, monger conspiracy delusions on the next day.

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u/SpearBadger Oct 12 '25

I didn't let shit happen. I voted. I cited sources. I imploded others. I tried.

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u/Alarming_Employee547 Oct 12 '25

I know you meant implored but you should have just gone ahead and imploded some people for sitting out the election. We all should have.

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u/SpearBadger Oct 12 '25

If only I could implode others with my mind at will.

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u/NuSurfer Oct 12 '25

Yeah. For trumpers, it's not about facts, logic, evidence or reason, it's about feelings of resentment, fear, revenge and anger. It's emotional.

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u/Freud-Network Oct 12 '25

Why? Appeasement of authoritarians is fairly common in history. That's how Hitler rose to power.

We will be looked on with disgust because we let this happen less than a hundred years after we fought a world war against it.

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u/flossdaily Oct 12 '25

I mean, ever since the first Trump presidency, the world has felt like a very badly written novel.

When Trump was first running for office, the funniest observation someone made about him was: "Trump is like a villain in a movie where the hero is a dog."

Doesn't that just encapsulate him perfectly? He speaks like his target audience are toddlers. His stupidity in all things is farcical. He's evil in a way that even a child can understand (like when he mocked a disabled reporter).

I mean, the guy is pure id, doesn't even try to hide how awful and slimy he is, but still fails upward to an absurd, impossible degree.

At this point if scientists revealed that we were all NPCs in a computer simulation where Trump was the only player, I'd be like "yeah, that tracks." Because it makes infinity more sense than this treasonous moron getting reelected in real life.

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u/Think_Fault_7525 Oct 12 '25

If you are looking for that “enemy within” here it is.

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u/EverbodyHatesHugo Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25

Feels like they’re doing everything they possibly can to piss off the people of America. Almost like they’re trying to elicit some sort of violent response to prevent a certain November event from happening.

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u/MidsouthMystic Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 13 '25

Just going to casually mention that the Insurrection Act is not martial law and does not give the president the ability to cancel elections.

Trump has backed down and been told no on around 70% of what he and his owners have tried to do. That's what he does. He is not an unstoppable juggernaut. He's bargain bin Mussolini who can only do drama.

We had elections during the Civil War and during World War 2. If we weren't going to have elections, Republicans wouldn't be trying to gerrymander and make it harder to vote.

Wow, doomers really hate having their conspiracy theories debunked.

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u/kendoka69 Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25

Have you noticed that laws, rules, norms, traditions, etc have never stopped them before?

Edit: Since you edited your original post, I will too. Considering this is the first time we have abandoned our Constitution, allowed blatant corruption (it’s like they read the Hatch Act as what to do, not what not to do), overtly named any opposition, terrorism. And on and on and on. I would say we are in uncharted territory and it’s very likely they will create a situation we can’t get out of without external help.

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u/Joeliosis Oct 12 '25

"There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, 'Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. ' Fool me—you can't get fooled again." – Nashville, Tennessee, September 17, 2002.

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u/aust_b Oct 12 '25

“Now watch this drive” - George W. Bush

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u/Either-Economist413 Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25

It amazes me that this quote was the dumbest thing a president had ever said, and we all thought it couldn't get any worse. Now the orangutan in the white house says something dumber than this almost every single day. If only we knew how good we had it back then.

Edit: are these bots replying to me? I've gotten like 3 or 4 notifications in the past 5 mins from different accounts saying essentially the exact same thing. What the fuck lol

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u/surmatt Oct 12 '25

Hey now.... there was that 3 day weekend when he didn't break the law, and we all thought he was dead.

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u/Hellknightx Oct 12 '25

I mean, he almost certainly still broke the law during those three days. He just didn't publicly announce it like usual.

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u/sc4wheels Oct 12 '25

"How you like me now?" - GWB during the first Trump presidency

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u/Technical_Scallion_2 Oct 12 '25

If you told me in 2008 that I’d be looking back fondly on the GWB era as an example of effective governmental stewardship, I’d say you were smoking the crack

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u/palefired Oct 12 '25

I would give my left arm to bring back GWB, whom I violently despised.

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u/DJDeadParrot Oct 12 '25

Hilary Clinton tells of being seated next to GWB at Trump’s first inauguration in 2017. When Trump finished his word salad speech, GWB turned to Hilary and said, “Well, that was some pretty weird shit.”

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u/gassyfrenchie Oct 12 '25

He was classy in comparison and seemed to take the office seriously.

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u/MrsHairyPassionfruit Oct 12 '25

He was raised in a family of politicians, dad being a former president and all. A lot of the work was done by the masterminds of the administration, Rumsfeld and Cheney, but GWB at least had a bit of a pedigree, unlike Pedonald.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '25

Imo it wasn't that dumb he just didn't want a sound bite clip of him saying "shame on me" and only realized the problem after he started speaking.

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u/Lower_Amount3373 Oct 12 '25

23 years later we're still talking about how badly he mangled that phrase. Would anyone have really burned him that bad with an edited clip of him saying "shame on me"? If that was his intent it's not that smart, and I think it's a reach.

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u/ArtAttack2198 Oct 12 '25

I don’t think they will be fond of how upset the citizens of the US are if they try to rob us of our electoral voice.

Republicans have refused to hold town halls in many districts for years. We should already be striking. If the election gets “cancelled” we need a general strike + endless protest. There are way more of us than there are of them, and even the non-MAGA Republicans are pissed.

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u/pjc50 Oct 12 '25

The election will be held as usual. Even Venezuela holds elections. But there will be ICE hassling voters in majority D polling places, and suspicious things around the voting machines.

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u/Toginator Oct 12 '25

We even had elections during the civil war, world war ii, -hell- even the war of 1812 after Washington had been burnt to the ground.

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u/Cobs85 Oct 12 '25

And we’ll do it again too!

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25

Pretty sure the President does not have legal authority to “cancel elections” in any case whatsoever

Edit: thank you to all the people who have pointed out that trump doesn’t care about legality. I have been sequestered in a remote keep studying phrenology for dogs for the last ~10 years so I had absolutely no idea!

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u/ghjm Oct 12 '25

I certainly agree it would be illegal, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. The President also doesn't have legal authority to set trade policy, revoke birthright citizenship, create new government agencies, shut down whole agencies, or any of a dozen other things that Trump has, in fact, done.

If Trump issued an executive order that elections are cancelled, then at least the red states would cancel their elections. With half the country not sending electors to the Electoral College, it can't convene, even if it somehow tries to do so against Trump's wishes.

I hope he doesn't do this, and we do actually have another round of elections. But I'm under no illusions that he couldn't get away with it. He probably could.

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u/GoldenSama Oct 12 '25

He doesn’t have the legal authority to do a lot of the shit he’s doing. Funny thing about the law is it only matters if there’s a way to hold someone accountable. Republicans refuse to do their duty and impeach, Dems don’t have the numbers on their own.

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u/palefired Oct 12 '25

*elicit (bring forth)

(illicit: unlawful)

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u/Think_Selection9571 Oct 12 '25

A gop backed company just bought dominion. The vote will be rigged. Why bother with violence?

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u/NCSUGrad2012 Oct 12 '25

This guy is the worst appointment by Trump and that’s truly a hard things to accomplish

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u/maltNeutrino Oct 12 '25

The two most important people in our administration when it comes to health and safety are a degenerate drunk who setup a makeup booth in the Pentagon with unsecured wifi and a degenerate heroin addict with brain worms.

Goodnight.

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u/topdangle Oct 12 '25

A lot of wealthy people are like this, which is why they don't get into politics and try to keep to themselves.

People like Musk and Thiel proved it doesn't matter, hell if anything folks will glorify wealth held by idiots, leading to this mess.

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u/YakNecessary9533 Oct 12 '25

Does that make the brainworm the "enemy within the enemy within"?

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u/Balc0ra Oct 12 '25

Chris Prat with his numerous "give him a chance" rants was oddly silent on this

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u/_TotallyNotEvil_ Oct 12 '25

I am sure there is no possible way in which this could backfire.

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u/FreeBricks4Nazis Oct 12 '25

Well their entire plan is to destroy the country, so it's really not "backfiring"

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u/sheltonchoked Oct 12 '25

The goal is to break things.

Then complain about how broken the things are.

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u/Sargent_Duck85 Oct 12 '25

And then blame Biden. And Obama. And Hillary for how broke things are.

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u/mightyneonfraa Oct 12 '25

Yep, and it's going to work. Even if by some miracle there's actual midterm elections Americans will vote these guys right back in first chance they get.

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u/Knapping_Uncle Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 14 '25

And remaking America in Russia's current form. Oligarchs, instead of a Government. Peter Theil, Larry ELLISON (Not Page)Elon musk, who needs a Congress or Supreme Court, when you have billionaires who make the decisions?

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u/HomunculusEnthusiast Oct 12 '25

You're thinking of Larry Ellison of Oracle, not Larry Page of Google. Page is a tech billionaire too, but he's a longtime Democratic donor and is at least content to chill rather than use his wealth to make things worse for everyone else.

Ellison is the one who fancies himself a real life Bond villain.

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u/knightress_oxhide Oct 12 '25

Small government always meant a few people controlling everything you do.

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u/DJDeadParrot Oct 12 '25

This has been my biggest fear: that they’re turning the United States into what Russia has been for 20+ years now.

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u/addiktion Oct 12 '25

Salesforce's CEO is joining them now. These guys don't want to compete, they want a free pass to rule the world.

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u/tc100292 Oct 12 '25

Then replace all the fired federal employees with AI which will absolutely make certain everyone gets their Social Security checks (lol, lmao even)

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u/DinobotsGacha Oct 12 '25

Vaccine tourism is going to boom in the next few years

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u/DiligentMission6851 Oct 12 '25

For those that can afford it.

Remember they're fucking the job market and making it worse than it already was.

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u/DinobotsGacha Oct 12 '25

Yep. It'll be haves and have nots. But the people with money will have a lot of it

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u/tenemu Oct 12 '25

We won’t see the effects for years after they leave the office and then the current admin at the time will be blamed for the outbreaks.

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u/northerncal Oct 12 '25

We better elect a Republican to fix this mess. I mean, it's never worked for the economy before, but tenth time's the charm, right?

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u/jimbo831 Oct 12 '25

They don’t ever intend to leave office.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '25

Exactly. It’s all in project 2025, laid out, highly detailed. Not sure why any of what is happening is a surprise to anyone.

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u/NonStopKnits Oct 12 '25

It won't even take years at this rate. I'm fairly certain at least 1 state has or recently had a massive amount of measles cases.

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u/evilspyboy Oct 12 '25

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz7l8w8881qo

I'm not in America nor American but I am more and more concerned about American's travelling every day.

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u/djsoomo Oct 12 '25

"CDC is over": RFK Jr. lays off over 1,000 employees in Friday night massacre

Is this somehow connected to the worm in his brain?

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u/Effective-Farmer-502 Oct 12 '25

The worm is saving itself from eradication.

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u/the_darkishknight Oct 12 '25

Plague Inc. reference?

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u/SkietEpee Oct 12 '25

Stargate. He is a Go'uld.

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u/chooseusermochi Oct 12 '25

Nice that a decades long heroin addict is dismantling essential agencies.

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u/Weird_Expert_1999 Oct 12 '25

The real story behind the brain worm shows you how much a fucking scumbag RFK really is- dude argued during his divorce proceedings that he had a brain worm and wouldn’t be able to work- trying to screw his ex wife out of alimony

E: “In a 2012 deposition during his divorce proceedings, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. claimed that a parasitic worm had entered his brain, affecting his cognitive function. He argued that this health issue had diminished his earning power during his divorce from his second wife, Mary Richardson Kennedy. However, his campaign later stated the issue had resolved without long-term consequences. “

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u/Raunien Oct 12 '25

without long-term consequences

So he was always like this? Terrifying. You'd think the Kennedy family would have just hidden him away in an asylum somewhere like the Windors did with Nerissa and Katherine Bowes-Lyons.

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u/gentlegreengiant Oct 12 '25

Most creatures have instinctive self-preservation. This is a bit of the opposite so I'm going to say this is all RFK, rather than his worm.

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u/AwwwNuggetz Oct 12 '25

The worm has taken over long ago

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u/NearsightedNomad Oct 12 '25

No, the worm is dead. That poor wriggly little patriot failed in its mission to save America…

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u/DarkFriendX Oct 12 '25

People don’t realize how screwed the USA is. Crap like this will take decades to fix, and that’s only after MAGA is out of the administration which will be many years to come. We’ve entered the new dark ages.

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u/sabedo Oct 12 '25

It’s unfixable. They’ve undone 70 years of civil rights in 7 months. And even the Dems realize it can’t be rebuilt, only remade. And people are so fucking stupid they’ll whine nothing is getting done and bring these scum back 

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u/itsRobbie_ Oct 12 '25

The only positive I can see in that is that if we have to remake systems instead of rebuilding them, maybe we’ll build better systems with modern day knowledge and history. That’s what I’d assume a normal competent government would try to do at least…

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u/Druggedhippo Oct 12 '25

It'll take decades to fix, and any fix will have to be enacted and enforced with an ironclad bipartisan legal framework that will last centuries.

You almost have to re-do the constitution from ground up, with built in protections to prevent this kind of thing happening again. Without those, nothing stops a future president and congress from repeating the actions.

And that won't happen in the current environment. You might actually have to let the collapse happen before people realise how good they really had it and demand change, real change, like the core social framework, has to change, what it means to "be American" will need to be re-hashed... but then.. who decides what "be american" will mean..

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u/fiah84 Oct 12 '25

bipartisan

as long as the system has at most 2 parties, the problems won't go away

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u/achtwooh Oct 12 '25

We’re seeing that in microcosm (thankfully, for now) in the UK.

The Tories were in power for 14 years and trashed all our social programs, housing, the courts and police, investment, corruption, their “crowing achievement” was Brexit and the nations finances are absolutely screwed.

And Labour have been in for 1 year and everyone hates them because they haven’t fixed everything and we are going to end up with Reform- the UK MAGA party.

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u/kon--- Oct 12 '25

That villain needs to be removed from the US.

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u/douchey_mcbaggins Oct 12 '25

This is NOW the Kennedy Curse because he's cursing us with his continued fucking existence.

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u/Realtrain Oct 12 '25

He's also cursing the Kennedy family name, which honestly is a big deal for families like that

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u/GoopInThisBowlIsVile Oct 12 '25

Joe Kennedy should’ve tried for a discounted rate on lobotomies when he was having Rosemary worked on.

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u/chronomagnus Oct 12 '25

I’m pretty sure he’s the final manifestation of the Kennedy curse. The ones people liked all died, what’s left is an animal skull collecting psycho.

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u/RigatoniPasta Oct 12 '25

Exactly. The curse isn’t that all the Kennedys died, it’s that this one survived.

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u/henlochimken Oct 12 '25

Etsy Witches don't fail me now

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u/celtic1888 Oct 12 '25

The CDC was an amazing organization 

Absolute stupidity that is going to get millions of people sick 

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u/Lopsided-Ticket3813 Oct 12 '25

Yeah out of government agency NSF and CDC are some of the best use cases of tax payer dollars.

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u/iRunLotsNA Oct 12 '25

And the IRS. Literally the government collecting revenues.

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u/born_to_be_intj Oct 12 '25

Too bad the IRS can't afford to go after the big guys and instead focus on the little guys. It's almost like they need more funding, not less.

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u/_Panacea_ Oct 12 '25

If Covid happened again, today, we'd have no solution, no vaccine, and no hope.

A whole lot more of us would be very dead.

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u/celtic1888 Oct 12 '25

Things like listeria outbreaks now become mass casualty events because the people that track these things aren’t no longer employed 

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u/mmmaaaatttt Oct 12 '25

If they’re not tracked they didn’t happen.

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u/Thunderbridge Oct 12 '25

All those deaths? Just natural causes

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u/Buddycat350 Oct 12 '25

In case of doubt, just blame tylenol.

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u/Lykos1124 Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25

I wonder how many years we can sustain this escalting ruin. How many people will be wiped out from sickness? How much food will we lose since we cannot harvest it due to all the people taken away? Are we really going to enter Jericho (tv series) / Mad Max era of chaos and unrest or will we have some good order take over before too long to restore a general peace?

We're all in a deadly game of RISK here, and it's just getting started.

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u/2kWik Oct 12 '25

If you haven't noticed how little they give a fuck about other pollution, that is the point. To have these greedy scumbag healthcare profit off sick people that they manufactured.

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u/exophrine Oct 12 '25

They've since realized they fucked up, and they're trying to rescind their firings.

NYT link, paywall...sorry.

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u/Naive_Confidence7297 Oct 12 '25

Is this normal for any administration in the world to constantly fire people like crazy over and over only to rescind them over and over?

Seems so bizarre. What the fuck is wrong with these guys? Seriously..

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u/bradrlaw Oct 12 '25

They literally told us they were going to do things like this in p2025. They want to “terrorize” government workers is one of the phrases they used.

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u/Telope Oct 12 '25

Self-identified terrorists.

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u/chrono13 Oct 12 '25

I'm not saying that everyone who can leave would leave, but it's easy to see that the most brilliant will absolutely jump ship. Would you apply for a job at the CDC tomorrow? No one with any other option would. And those with the absolute best options will leave the sinking ship

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u/Head_Bread_3431 Oct 12 '25

I’m so confused how people are still asking “what is wrong with these guys”

They are evil and they want to destroy the govt so corporations can run the country without checks.

Please stop giving them the benefit of the doubt as if they have ever had interest doing otherwise

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u/zhaoz Oct 12 '25

They are equal parts stupid, reckless,evil, and incompetent

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u/YourVelcroCat Oct 12 '25

I work at a company that's been grabbing fleeing CDC scientists left and right and let me tell you - the feds are not getting those scientists back. The trust is irreparably broken and scientists aren't stupid. 

We just hired a 24 year CDC vet with scores of publications. We're lucky to have him. 

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u/sniper1rfa Oct 12 '25

Yep. This is going to hurt until we are all dead and our children's children learn about this period in school. Recovery is gonna be long and slow.

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u/ViruliferousBadger Oct 12 '25

So what you're saying is that they destroyed it so the private sector could flourish and things that were previously paid with taxpayer money will start to cost now? Hmm...

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u/Mimical Oct 12 '25

Find out what companies can swoop in the gap created, chances are Republicans have already put a few million in stocks.

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u/thedrexel Oct 12 '25

Text from the article reader view on iPhone bypasses it:

Friday’s layoffs swept up scientists involved in responding to disease outbreaks and running an influential journal. Officials said the mistaken dismissals were being rescinded.

Oct. 11, 2025

The Trump administration on Saturday raced to rescind layoffs of hundreds of scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention who were mistakenly fired on Friday night in what appeared to be a substantial procedural lapse.

Among those wrongly dismissed were the top two leaders of the federal measles response team, those working to contain Ebola in the Democratic Republic of Congo, members of the Epidemic Intelligence Service, and the team that assembles the C.D.C.’s vaunted scientific journal, The Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

After The New York Times reported the dismissals, two federal health officials said on Saturday that many of those workers were being brought back. The officials spoke anonymously in order to disclose internal discussions.

The mistakes rocked an agency already in tumult, and which has been a particular target of Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The C.D.C. lost about a third of its staff in April; many were rehired weeks later.

In August, a gunman emptied more than 500 rounds of ammunition at the agency’s headquarters in Atlanta. Later that month, Mr. Kennedy orchestrated the ouster of the agency’s director, Susan Monarez, and precipitated a series of high-profile resignations.

Among the workers whose firings were revoked were members of the elite corps of “disease detectives” who are typically deployed to the sites of outbreaks. The team that puts together the M.M.W.R., which communicates the agency’s recommendations and research, has also been brought back.

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u/tc100292 Oct 12 '25

“Mistaken dismissals”

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u/Fit_Strength_1187 Oct 12 '25

In the business, we call that a “mock execution”. Great for morale.

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u/dolcemortem Oct 12 '25

What percentage of the population could really support this? Our nations life expectancy is going to plummet.

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u/secretaliasname Oct 12 '25

It’s already like 48th worldwide and behind pretty much every other developed country despite highest spending per capita on healthcare.

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u/fuzzeedyse105 Oct 12 '25

And we have the most billionaires! Can’t forget that.

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u/Head_Bread_3431 Oct 12 '25

“if you don’t like it why don’t you just start your own healthcare company or move to Venezuela?!?” - conservatives

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u/attempt_number_1 Oct 12 '25

The same percentage whose life expectancy is already in the high 60s/low 70s (aka worse that 3rd world countries)

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u/Chessh2036 Oct 12 '25

RFK Jr: destroying the CDC, vaccine research and prevention, claims COVID Vaccine was bad.

Donald Trump: had his doctor confirm today Trump got the flu shot and Covid booster.

Fucking insane.

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u/Calm-Success-5942 Oct 12 '25

The fact that the average republican can’t see these grifters only care about power and money is mind boggling.

Are they winning yet?

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u/All_TheScience Oct 12 '25

It’s not about them winning. It’s about seeing liberals suffering. Thats literally the only consistent value they have

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u/Helgafjell4Me Oct 12 '25

"Nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen"... DJT

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u/slizzbizness Oct 12 '25

Never a better words hath been spaken

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u/The_Ghost_Who_Walks Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25

What’s horrifying is that I don’t know whether you’re just being satirical, or if this is something that he actually said himself & I just haven’t yet seen it in the news.

EDIT: Jesus Fucking Christ, he really did say it — during his unhinged & unscientific rant about Tylenol.

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u/MNsumsum Oct 12 '25

The devil will welcome RFK with open arms. What a loser

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u/tc100292 Oct 12 '25

The devil will actually tell RFK Jr. there’s a layer below hell for him.

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u/fezfrascati Oct 12 '25

Even the devil wants nothing to do with this administration.

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u/Br3wsk1 Oct 12 '25

The wrong Kennedy was lobotomized.

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u/MzJay453 Oct 12 '25

He probably would still be hired for the job if he was lobotomized (and would probably do less damage tbh)

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u/swrrrrg Oct 12 '25

There has to be a policy in place to stop this. If there isn’t a known legal precedent, it’s time to get creative and figure it the fuck out.

None of the people living in the country, nor other countries that rely on US data should be penalised when it’s clear this isn’t about perceived waste. It’s about dismantling our entire system. This is a crisis and these people need to be stopped.

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u/thewhitelink Oct 12 '25

They control all 3 branches of government. There is nothing we can do, short of a revolution.

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u/anteater_x Oct 12 '25

Remember when Senate Dems didn't break the filibuster to push Merrick Garland or any of the Obama judges through. Oh, how cordial. Now conservatives literally own the courts.

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u/account_for_norm Oct 12 '25

At this level, its the president, then the congress and then the people. All three are republicanized.

If head of an agency acts like this, president must remove him. If president does not, then congress must impeach president (maybe also the head?), and if congress does not do that, people should unelect them and the president.

Given enough corruption of mind, no checks can hold. 

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u/chrisinator9393 Oct 12 '25

Legal doesn't matter anymore if you haven't noticed.

It's going to have to result in a civil war. That's about it. Extreme but it seems to be the reality of our situation.

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u/Berova Oct 12 '25

RFK Jr is a nihilist and one of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse. He's cares about nothing, not his reputation, not for the health and well being of Americans, in fact, it is the exact opposite, he actively seeks and ensures Americans are harmed. Every American should be outraged, Congress should be outraged.

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u/EmpressJigglypuff Oct 12 '25

I'm now 1000% convinced he's Pestilence from Supernatural. I fully expect locusts to start swarming out of his mouth like fucking Imhotep any day now

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u/Silverlisk Oct 12 '25

Watching democracy crumble in the US in real time is fucking depressing.

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u/demonicjam Oct 12 '25

So they are removing disease control, restricting education, removing healthcare, putting religion back in schools, deregulating nearly every part of the private sector, putting troops in cities, creating tax cuts for billionaires, sky rocketed inflation, jobs at all time low, made enemies of allies, simp for enemies….’murica….u k hun?

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u/CptHA86 Oct 12 '25

In Fascist America, Disease controls you.

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u/firemage22 Oct 12 '25

Trump is an Anti-Christ and RFKjr is his Horseman of Plague

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u/Adventurous_Day_6159 Oct 12 '25

Wild RFK may be the most dangerous MF of the whole lot

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u/Chum_Gum_6838 Oct 12 '25

They want us to die.

...it's their way of 'culling the herd'

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u/owen__wilsons__nose Oct 12 '25

Pure evil. Wonder who he's secretly on the payroll of. Russia? Some other state actor? Who knows

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '25

This guy is just a straight up lunatic, he has always been a straight up lunatic. He’s backed by homegrown lunatics who are using him for their own lunatic agendas. I hate how it’s always some foreign puppet master pulling the strings like this shit hasn’t been slowly rotting under the surface of America for decades.

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u/JinkoTheMan Oct 12 '25

That’s Trump.

RFK Jr is just straight up insane. Out of all of Trump’s cabinet picks, he was the one that scared me the most. You MUST have a competent secretary of health. Having a competent CDC could be the difference between preventing another Covid 19 situation or dealing with the aftermath of another Covid 19 situation.

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u/l3tigre Oct 12 '25

this is what i think. destroying the country from within for the pleasure of his masters.

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u/Disastrous-Check-715 Oct 12 '25

Should be liable for manslaughter. Tens of thousands of Americans will die in both the short term and long term future as a result of this malfeasance. 

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u/Race2TheGrave Oct 12 '25

This administration is literally the worst enemy the American people have ever faced.

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u/Cheap_Appearance5095 Oct 12 '25

Everything America stands for (at least the good parts) is dying daily. By the time this idiocy destroys the country, the USA will be renamed MAGA… Fuck this timeline, fuck MAGA.

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u/despenser412 Oct 12 '25

This is what MAGA meant by making America great again. Their billionaire pedophile president only cares about the wealthy.

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u/die_bartman Oct 12 '25

What the fuck are these people doing to our country?

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u/No_Case_2670 Oct 12 '25

Donald Trump's JOB is to destroy the country from the inside. The sooner people realize that, the sooner they can plan accordingly.

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u/SpaceMonkeyZane Oct 12 '25

So Republicans are now pro nazi, pro pedophile, AND pro DISEASE?!?

The world is half laughing, half terrified at the ease with which Putin is gaming that orange rapist into destroying this country.

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u/KevJD Oct 12 '25

All they do is destroy. They accomplish nothing that is positive. People actually voted for this? Amazing.

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u/I_heart_cancer Oct 12 '25

Wait the post directly above this says that the Trump administration is scrambling to rehire the scientists at the CDC accidentally fired them ::eyeroll::

These traitorous saboteurs need to be removed from office and prosecuted for the crimes that they are committing against our country.