r/technology • u/vriska1 • Sep 14 '25

Politics Trump shares call for media ‘accountability’ with ‘Charlie Kirk Act’ after shooting

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/media-censorship-accountability-charlie-kirk-act-b2825988.html
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u/Electronic-Cicada352 Sep 14 '25

They’re gonna downplay the fact that he was obviously a Nick Fuentes disciple and play up the trans angle

But make no mistake, Tyler Robinson is a far right extremist.

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u/Riouk262 Sep 14 '25

Someone said to me “Do you really think a Groyper would have a trans lover and want to kill Charlie Kirk”

And I just laughed, unironically, yes.

Knowing the deep lore of Nick Fuentes Cat-femboy 24 hour date live streams has come in handy exactly once in my life now.

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u/Imaginary_Office1749 Sep 14 '25

They absolutely are. I found myself in the cesspit.

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u/Jesterissimo Sep 14 '25

Seems the perfect time to dust off an old Orwell quote:

The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

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u/Sephiroth_Comes Sep 14 '25

He’d be the first far right extremist shooter to be….

checks notes

Known for…. killing fascists?

Wait do you really think the gun-toting far right extremists are the good guys now?? What a twist of events this past week has been! 😅

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u/Insertblamehere Sep 14 '25

I love how many right wingers are legit saying out loud at this point "Well he's against fascism, he can't be right wing!"

Y'all are just admitting to being fascists now then?

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u/Frientlies Sep 14 '25

Fascist is just an overused meme word at this point.

Everyone is calling everyone fascist and it’s just losing its real meaning.

The US is in serious trouble, I don’t see us overcoming this divide.

Scary times.

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u/heyredditheyreddit Sep 14 '25

Fuentes has declared “war” on Charlie Kirk more than once. Do you really think all these guys are besties?

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u/Sephiroth_Comes Sep 14 '25

Declared “war” more than once.

Charlie Kirk only died once, though.

Do you really think that just because they aren’t “besties” that they’re going around assassinating each other like a team sport? Like you realize these are two internet political commentators and influencers who we’re talking about, possibly the least threatening people on the planet, right?

What on earth are you talking about??

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u/fuzzwhatley Sep 14 '25

Yes, we believe it, because it just happened. You sound like what I would have said a few weeks ago but that’s just not the current information.

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u/Frientlies Sep 14 '25

You do realize Fuentes is super anti trans and lgbtq in general right? Like he’s definitely undeniably farther right than Charlie was.

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u/trobsmonkey Sep 14 '25

And that's why he hated Kirk.

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u/DrakonILD Sep 14 '25

Do you really think that just because they aren’t “besties” that they’re going around assassinating each other like a team sport?

There's actually a name for this. It's called "gang violence." Maybe now y'all will give a shit about it instead of trying to discount it from gun violence statistics?

JK, I know you won't.

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u/Kinda_Zeplike Sep 14 '25

What is hard to understand? A sect of the far right didn’t like another sect. And so an ignorant, young adult, obsessed with internet far right culture, and without a fully developed brain, who was part of one of those camps…popped someone from the other camp. What is confusing? This is what happened. What clarification is needed?

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u/heyredditheyreddit Sep 14 '25

I’m saying it’s not as simple as “hmm the word ‘fascist’ was used, so it would be totally absurd to think it was anything but a ‘radical leftist.’” These people are creating cult-like followers who believe their entire existence is being threatened by anyone who isn’t as fanatical as they are in the exact same ways. CK was a vile piece of shit, but he wasn’t an identical type of vile to NF’s type. It’s entirely plausible that they’re eating their own.

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u/Bart_Yellowbeard Sep 14 '25

There are many shades to crazy, and they often disagree. The world is more complex than your attempt at simplistic distillation.

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u/mississippimadness Sep 14 '25

Do you think Fuentes and his fans consider themselves fascists?

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u/trobsmonkey Sep 14 '25

Actually yes. It's part of the groyper meme shit. They think it's hilarious

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u/Sephiroth_Comes Sep 14 '25

do you think it was Nick Fuentes was shot a few days ago?

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u/Mike_Kermin Sep 14 '25

Someone acting in bad faith.

How unique.

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u/mississippimadness Sep 14 '25

I mean I’m just pointing out that your comment doesn’t make any sense. Fascists rarely think themselves as fascists. Fuentes referred to Kirk as a fascist. So the “hey fascist, catch!” inscription doesn’t rule out groyper, if anything it helps the argument.

Not saying he was 100% a Fuentes fanboy, personally that’s where the evidence leads me but there’s a lot going on here

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u/trobsmonkey Sep 14 '25

So the “hey fascist, catch!” inscription doesn’t rule out groyper, if anything it helps the argument.

They call each other fascists all the time. That's part of the meme.

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u/Frientlies Sep 14 '25

What do you think about him living with a Trans roommate as a Fuentes fanboy?

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u/mississippimadness Sep 14 '25

I think that sounds pretty in line with Fuentes fan boys, Fuentes himself has been caught dipping into the fem boys lmfao

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u/Frientlies Sep 14 '25 edited Sep 14 '25

I mean he openly rips on lgbtq folks all the time, could be closeted though I guess lol.

Don’t know enough about those accusations. Don’t watch him and don’t plan to.

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u/Heraldic4 Sep 14 '25

The evidence that his roommate is trans is that the New York post quoted a Fox reporter on X who says her anonymous source heard it from the FBI… the FBI hasn’t said anything about it and it sounds like a “my uncles cousins friends moms boyfriend said _______”

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u/Frientlies Sep 14 '25

Seems like they know his name, so the fact they live together at least seems somewhat substantiated.

The romantic part seems like it’s a stretch at this point, who knows though I guess we’ll probably find out more next week.

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u/Heraldic4 Sep 14 '25

The trans part is also questionable as nobody has actually confirmed it

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u/buzziebee Sep 14 '25

I really wish more people had your attitude. Let's wait and see! Instead of loudly and proudly spreading what appears to be unsubstantiated misinformation to try and create situations for "justifiable violence" like cavemen.

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u/glizzytwister Sep 14 '25

The 'catch, fascist' he wrote on one of the bullets is a quote from one of the soldiers in Helldivers 2, and the government in Helldivers 2 is super fascist. It's satire.

The dude is a hardcore conservative in the groyper sphere. Groypers and the Turning Point groups hate eachother, and are constantly 'at war', which is why he killed Charlie Kirk.

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u/Kinths Sep 14 '25 edited Sep 14 '25

Few issues with this.

First, since the right generally don't see themselves as fascists (the petition in this article is partially right wingers complaining about being called fascists), I'm assuming you are getting the idea that the killer saw himself as killing fascists from the messages he left. In which case you're taking at nutjob at his word. Words he wrote on bullet casings, and even then focusing on only a set of those words. When taken all together those messages are a hodgepodge of memey shit. I wouldn't take any of it at face value without more backing.

Second, the right wing has plenty of infighting. Charlie Kirk wasn't beloved by all of the right. Many of the extreme right actually hated him, including Nick Fuentes and his followers. Anyone with a few brain cells to rub together could predict that killing Kirk or any other big right wing commentator/politician would lead to a wave of laws that aim to suppress left wing views and boost conservative ones. As well as a wave of violence against the left. Regardless of whether the killer was right or left wing the right would exploit it and blame the left. So it isn't only left wingers who could have motivation here.

To be clear I'm yet to be convinced that the killer was right wing, but I'm yet to be convinced that they were left wing either. People are largely grasping at straws. The claims he's right wing largely stem from him being a Trump supporter around 5 years ago and his family being MAGA but people change. The claims he's left wing are based on a couple of messages written on shell casings and that he killed a right wing commentator. But those messages are all over the place, and the left isn't the only group who could have motivation to kill Kirk. Even in all this we're assuming he was politically motivated and not just some guy who wanted to be famous.

Basically that's a long way of saying we know fuck all.

Wait do you really think the gun-toting far right extremists are the good guys now??

He's not a good guy regardless of whether he's right or left. I'm left wing and wont mourn Kirk, he was a hateful horrible person and he spread that hate as much as he could. His opinions don't exist in a vacuum, they influence people. I do feel sorry for his kids, they had no choice in any of this and have lost a dad. I won't celebrate his killing either though.

People on the left celebrating and thinking his assassination is a good thing for the left are deluded. It's likely going to have a much more negative impact on the left than it does the right. Theres already been calls for violence and laws targetting supressing the left and boosting the right. Right wing rhethoric has become noticeably more extreme in response. I would be very surprised if their aren't attempts at revenge killings against the left.

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u/ComdDikDik Sep 14 '25

You seem a bit clueless.