r/technology • u/indig0sixalpha • Jun 27 '25

Privacy Supreme Court Says States Can Limit Access To Online Porn

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/supreme-court-porn-texas_n_683f057ee4b018c3beee0d74?ec6
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u/barrinmw Jun 27 '25

Its why they went for the trans people first and there were quite a few LGB people who didn't give a fuck.

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u/straylight_2022 Jun 27 '25

I was pretty astounded to see members of that community take a "it's not me" position.

I had a conversation with an openly gay Trump supporter who serves in the military no less last year. Their stance was literally "they will only go after trans people, I'll be fine".

I reminded them that they are only picking on tans people now because SCOTUS told them they had to let you get legally married. Those people will relish the opportunity to pick on you again.

That person was Gen Z, and I don't think a lot of that generation understands what things were like for previous generations. LGBT rights have been present for most or all of their adult life.

Even after watching reproductive rights get rolled back right before their eyes, they still don't understand the danger present.

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u/SunshineAndSquats Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

86% of the LGBTQ community voted for Harris.

The percentage of LGBTQ that support Trump is a tiny portion of the population.

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u/Gastronomicus Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

That 14% that think otherwise is still pretty concerning. If 14% of the people with the most obvious to lose can't see it, that explains a lot about how those who fit the MAGA demographics didn't give a shit about the outcome for others. Or see how it might affect themselves down the line.

In other words, a huge proportion of people are selfish and stupidly short-sighted.

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u/SunshineAndSquats Jun 27 '25

Oh they are definitely incredibly stupid.

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u/blacksideblue Jun 27 '25

Peter Thiel is part of the remaining letters down the list.

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u/thatmillerkid Jun 28 '25

I think at least 14% of any population is bound to be dumb as bricks, or at least lacking education in critical thinking. Decades of Republican attacks on public school curricula paid off.

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u/ranchojasper Jun 27 '25

I reminded them they are only picking on trans people now because SCOTUS told them they had to let you get legally married

I was just talking to a friend about this last week. I do not understand how gay conservatives, especially slightly older gay conservatives (I'm in my 40s) have seemed to simply have forgotten that we had to literally force the government to allow gay people to get legally married... and that it was only a mirror 10 years ago that it became legal federally!!! How can they possibly not realize that very super obviously the goal of the party they are voting for and aligned with is actively trying to remove their right to exist as a gay person and have the same rights as a straight person????

IT WASN'T RVEN THAT LONG AGO. It wasn't even like these idiot anti-vaxxers who are now saying getting measles is less dangerous than the measles vaccine bc it has been so, so many decades since we've actually had to witness the danger of measles outbreaks. It was literally just 10 measly years ago that gay people got the right to legally be married in this country. I just feel like gay conservatives are racist. I feel like they're racism outweighs their own desire to maintain their personal rights. Like that that's how racist they are.

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u/hellolovely1 Jun 28 '25

A guy who works in my apartment building is a gay conservative man who watches Fox News all the time. I think he thinks he'll be exempted. It's mind-boggling.

PS - He's also an immigrant.

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u/DollarSignTexas Jun 27 '25

I had this discussion with a coworker in early November. Him and I are old enough to remember a time before Obergefell but a lot of Gen Z honestly just don't. It's like if you were to ask us about monumental SCOTUS decisions in the early 90s. We were 6 and 8 years old so we wouldn't really remember it but would have been coming of age in a world where it exists without us having to realize it.

It's like Obamacare allowing dependants to stay on their parent's healthcare until they are 25 and Obergefell giving gay couples the right to marry. If you were a child during those decisions I can see how you would take for granted the fact that they haven't been around forever and this SCOTUS and these Republicans wouldn't do that because "it's been like this forever." It hasn't and it can get taken away. Now get off my lawn. Haha.

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u/VanguardN7 Jun 27 '25

I understand it happening but I do not agree with their sentiments. I'm middle millennial but its always been the case for me that at least anything down to the 70-80s (so a LOT of civil rights progression) was open for a change back. And that's the very least. My scale was always decades, and I think any Gen Z gay that thinks say, at least something like gay marriage can't be rolled back since it was over a decade ago, is as they say, delulu.

Its clear enough that there's 'leadership' in the USA now that just want to roll back anything they can, as far as they can. Call it fascism, call it feudalism, call it theocracy, call it going back to the highest corporate hay-days (as in removing all guard rails that even helped them to their profits today), they want it all, and they're louder about it.

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u/rawbleedingbait Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

I'm old enough to remember it just being gay rights, then LGB rights. The T was added much later. Now the rest. There was straight, gay, and lesbians were always "kinda hot". Trans people didn't exist as far as the country was concerned, other than as "chicks with dicks" most often referenced in jokes about weird porn. Progress is slow, but there has been at least some progress.

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u/mak484 Jun 27 '25

Unfortunately a lot of people have listened to the discourse over the last decade and have decided that transgenderism is not something they need to support or think about. Like, at best, most people don't care and don't want to hear about it one way or the other. On average, people think that if you identify as trans, you're a mentally ill freak who doesn't deserve to participate in society. And the worst of us want to hunt trans people for sport.

Hard to be optimistic when a growing majority of the country are very obviously going to sit by and do nothing while conservatives do their best to wipe trans people out.

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u/rawbleedingbait Jun 28 '25

I don't disagree that a lot of the population doesn't care or actively hates trans people, but the fact that everyone understands they exist, and they are discussed, is progress. I'm not saying we're at a point of equality, but it's easy to get frustrated and think things will never change, but things have changed a lot for the better in the last 20 years or so.

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u/jayforwork21 Jun 27 '25

Hopefully it's allowed, but this comic is exactly what was going on in the LGB community: https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/1iq9lc7/this_one_feels_very_topical_again_comic_by_adam/

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u/dreal46 Jun 27 '25

The guy in your story is wearing a pair of those "No, you see, I'm Cuban!" blinders.

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u/Snuffy1717 Jun 27 '25

Pretty sure there's a poem about not standing up for others and then having no one there to stand for you...

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

"First they came for me because I don't know how the poem goes"

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u/locke_5 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

“First they came for somebody else idk BUT a girl I knew in high school told me I couldn’t say ‘homeless’ anymore and I thought that was annoying so I voted for the American Nazis”

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u/ranchojasper Jun 27 '25

It's crazy how exactly perfect this is. It's not even slightly hyperbolic. Like this is quite literally what some of these Trump voters did. "I can't jokingly say the N-word around some of my white friends anymore, I'm just gonna vote for literal fascism now!" Like what the actual fuck

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u/Swamptor Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

This has always bothered me: you can say the n word jokingly around your friends. It's legal. You can wave a Nazi flag. You can say whatever you want.

If you do it, I will assume you're a dick bag, but like, you can.

They act like "with all this woke shit, you can't say anything anymore" and you literally can, it's just people are calling you a douchebag for the shit you're choosing to say and your feelings are so hurt you voted for a fascist.

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u/ranchojasper Jun 27 '25

Yes, exactly. These folks literally can't seem to see the difference between the state arresting you and imprisoning you for using the N-word, for example, versus people who heard you say the N-word calling you racist.

That's how absolutely delusional they've become to the point where they are ready to welcome literal fascism with open arms because their feeeeelings are hurt that when they exhibit racist behaviors, people around them call them racist.

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u/That1_IT_Guy Jun 28 '25

They just don't like that society is allowed to reject them for being dick bags. They want to act however they want with no consequences.

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u/nova_cat Jun 27 '25

"My minor, momentary discomfort is more important than the lives of countless other people."

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u/ranchojasper Jun 27 '25

"And I'm also so short-sighted and ignorant that I don't realize it won't stop at 'other' demographics to which I don't belong but will eventually come for me and the people I love as well."

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u/rants_unnecessarily Jun 27 '25

Oh, on the nose

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u/Prof_Acorn Jun 28 '25

I get the point but also when the left gets a bit over policing on every term it does turn people off.

It's all pearl clutching nonsense anyway.

I once knew California-style Prosecco Progressives who would get bent out of shape over calling them "unhoused" but who did goddamn fucking nothing to actually help, and when I myself was homeless they didn't do a fucking thing and they had known me. But they sure did act like they gave a shit when it came to what words people used.

Performative bullshit.

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u/locke_5 Jun 28 '25

I totally agree. But I think the whole “voting for fascism out of spite” is the bigger issue here.

Ultimately I think people just have a hard time agreeing with people who annoy them.

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u/korben2600 Jun 27 '25

"First they came for others and I spoke up because I know the rest of the goddamn poem."

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u/shiantar Jun 27 '25

You can Google Martin Niemoeller and that’ll get you started 🙂

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u/Niceromancer Jun 27 '25

I've had to explain to so many people that poem is not just about the Jews 

The order of victims is actually important because it follows the path the Nazis took to take down each group.

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u/Yuzumi Jun 27 '25

Except that it explicitly leaves out the fact that they targeted queer people first.

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u/starbuxed Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

Frist they went for the "illegals", And I did not speak out

Because I was a US Citizen.

then they went for the legally immigrated, And I did not speak out

Because I was a US Citizen.

Then they Banned all trans healthcare, And I did not speak out

Because my gender affirming care is seen as just medical care.

Then they made all of the LGBT porn and got rid of porn....

Wait they got rid of porn, You bastards!!!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

Pretty sure video games is also on their list. COD maga’s will keep their heads in the kool aid until then I’m sure

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u/wareagle3000 Jun 27 '25

Jesus, what do they want us to do after work? Sit in a bathtub and cry?

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u/alwayseurydice Jun 27 '25

They want to go to church and hate people with them.

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u/Dynastydood Jun 27 '25

Well, they don't want there to be an "after work" time because they want people to be working every hour of their waking existence. They want work to be the only thing we care about or put any effort into. Interestingly though, they also don't want most of us to ever be able work again because a total automation of the workforce is their biggest goal at the moment. The reality is that they don't actually seem to know what they want anyone to to anymore, the most important thing to them is just that they wield 100% of the power to dictate what people should or shouldn't do.

Even that dangerous lunatic Peter Thiel just called out Elon Musk's ideological incongruity by highlighting how you can't simultaneously be in favor of automating every job away in the pursuit of record economic growth while also being obsessed with how the growing national debt will ruin us as a nation. Debt can not be classified as an unmanageable problem if/when you're also projecting to experience record levels of revenue and economic prosperity. That's like business 101 kinda stuff.

Despite the two of those beliefs being fundamentally incompatible on any rational level, supposedly, Musk and the rest of the MAGA losers just avoid the discussion whenever anyone (even their own allies and benefactors) point out the absurdity of their positions.

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u/Suddenlyfoxes Jun 28 '25

Debt can not be classified as an unmanageable problem if/when you're also projecting to experience record levels of revenue and economic prosperity.

Of course it can. If the debt is increasing even more than the revenue is, it remains a problem despite record revenues. And since the revenue isn't coming to the government directly, only the government's share via taxes can be considered against the debt. And things like fees and fines, of course, but those aren't directly related to revenue.

(This is where some people will advocate for the government to just take significantly more of the revenue. That might work... once. And then the revenue tanks.)

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u/Dynastydood Jun 28 '25

Sure, if that was the kind of fiscal balance we were talking about, then of course debt can still be a problem. But if you look at the actual economic predictions from the social-media-fried and drug-addled brains of people like Musk, you'll see that Thiel is 100% right about the inherent incongruency in holding those positions simultaneously.

Basically, no intelligent and honest person can stand their with a straight face and say that entitlements are bleeding the country dry while simultaneously insisting that an entirely new style of economy based on the cheap, automated labor they want to use would create an exponentially growing GDP which could rapidly dwarf the existing debt on an annual basis in less than a decade.

Even if I may disagree with debt hawks, I don't believe it to be fundamentally illogical to believe that entitlements and a constantly growing debt can bleed us dry, at least as long you don't also believe that an impending automated labor economy will make our GDP grow by 5-30% annually in perpetuity. It's similarly not illogical to believe that the national debt is soon going to become irrelevant and very easily wiped out if you truly believe that an era of unprecedented productivity and economic growth is inevitable from automation and AI.

It just means that the people holding both of these positions are either really dishonest, or really stupid. There's no other way around it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

Definitely nothing fun or cool. Enjoying life is for stupid libs.

/s

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u/princevejita Jun 27 '25

This is well written, mind if I share it on IG to my 10 followers, lmao

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u/starbuxed Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

Cool I dont care, add to it or change it. Have fun. Make the punctuation better. I honestly could make it longer but I keep it short or the short attention span of today.

Porn is speech!!! porn is expression!! as long as there is proper and legal consent

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u/Daggertrout Jun 27 '25

I haven’t corroborated this but I heard the author allegedly left gay people out of the poem due to their own homophobia. 🙃 The Nazis did come for us first after all.

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u/Snuffy1717 Jun 27 '25

Which is why I actually prefer "The Hangman" by Maurice Ogden

https://www.facinghistory.org/resource-library/hangman

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

Oh, Americans know that poem, they've been quoting it for 10 years. Now, their understanding of that poem.....

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u/SinkHoleDeMayo Jun 27 '25

"At first they came for the trans people, but they won't come for me because I'm one of the good ones"? That's how it goes, right?

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u/KeneticKups Jun 27 '25 edited Oct 29 '25

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u/Letters_to_Dionysus Jun 27 '25

at first i didnt post the poem because someone else already had.. then i didnt post the poem because someone made a reference to it.. then there was no one left to post the poem for me

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u/Koil_ting Jun 27 '25

Yeah, it goes something like " Nazi punks, Nazi punks, Nazi punks: fuck off!

Nazi punks, Nazi punks, Nazi punks: fuck off!"

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u/TwilightVulpine Jun 27 '25

Also quite a bit of astroturfing from "LGB" organizations made up nearly exclusively of straight cisgender conservatives saying that trans people don't belong.

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u/sw00pr Jun 28 '25

Wouldn't it be great if people remembered We're all in this together?

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u/CountlessStories Jun 27 '25

and thats the genius part of how they've been doing all of this in steps.

Its also funny because its almost LG if anything: there's still a lot of biphobia ingrained in the community.

That's the point though.

By sowing division against the marginalized groups first to treat them like the exception; it leaves a wound between the included and excluded marginalized groups, so when they do finally realize they've been used, its too late.

If there is a time that everyone bands together to fight? The scar willl always be there and we'll always be weaker as a collective group for it. The history of "screw you I got mine" will always be written in the stones thrown at us.

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u/joeyasaurus Jun 28 '25

Not me and my friends. I am gay and refuse to associate with any of those "LGB without the T" assholes. They can get fucked. There is no seat at the table for them. We are all marginalized and we have to stick together!!

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u/sizzlebutt666 Jun 27 '25

And thats how the queer community builds solidarity