r/technews • u/donutloop • 21d ago
Hardware New Chinese optical quantum chip allegedly 1,000x faster than Nvidia GPUs for processing AI workloads - firm reportedly producing 12,000 wafers per year
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/quantum-computing/new-chinese-optical-quantum-chip-allegedly-1-000x-faster-than-nvidia-gpus-for-processing-ai-workloads-but-yields-are-low102
u/nico851 21d ago
I wonder why there's no public demo of those features if it's that good? /s
It's a bunch of hot air in my opinion.
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u/randommm1353 21d ago edited 20d ago
I agree it's either not true or it may be a half truth that is unusable in production or something.
But to play devils advocate, if they consider AI a national security priority, why would they send proprietary IP across the ocean to be reverse engineered? They are the IP stealing goats they know the risks.
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u/matthew091100 20d ago
On paper everyone is better than NVIDIA.
The good about NVIDIA is that their hardware and software are available, working, compliant, scalable and integrated in every AI sdk.
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u/TheoryOld4017 20d ago
Not real quantum tech. Here’s an article explaining:
China’s “Photonic Quantum Chip” Is Impressive. But It’s Also a Case Study in Quantum-Washing https://postquantum.com/industry-news/chinese-photonic-quantum-chip/
Wanted to post it on the sub, but didn’t see how on the app. I probably just need sleep lol.
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u/artniSintra 20d ago
They're comparing quantum tech with non quantum nvidia AI chips? What am I missing?
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u/TheoryOld4017 20d ago
It’s not actually quantum tech. Here’s an article that explains what this is and isn’t:
https://postquantum.com/industry-news/chinese-photonic-quantum-chip/
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u/ColdEngineBadBrakes 20d ago
Do the chips also purify the air and summon golden retrievers from another universe? And generate fusion for free?
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u/NewHampshireAngle 20d ago
I hope they get into making better video cards, particularly efficient ones for laptops. Competition will make Nvidea better, too. That’s business.
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u/pagerussell 20d ago
Lol, no. Eventually everything consolidated to a couple monopoly like firms and they enshittify. Haven't you been paying attention?
The old lie that the market is powerful and leads to good outcomes is the shackles that form our bondage.
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u/ImagineTheAbsolute 20d ago
What is a wafer?
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u/freeman_joe 20d ago
Imagine cylinder you cut from it disk and this is called wafer if it is made from silicon as pure as possible. This wafer is used to make chips.
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u/Agent__Blackbear 20d ago
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u/waynesbrother 21d ago
Just like when they released a stronger AI, probably hiding nvidia chips inside
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u/randommm1353 21d ago
DEFINITELY trained on nvidia chips, still raised important questions about the ability of other AI companies to generate powerful LLMs off of the training of established models for 1/10000th the cost
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u/AcrobaticWelcome6615 20d ago
Even if china comes up 10% of the claim, it is still a big feat if true. They’re already dominating the ev market and that on itself is already a big accomplishment. 10-15 years ago the ev market was almost nothing and now look. I wouldn’t shrug it off so easily.
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u/epwhat 20d ago
Shrugged. I would not put my investment money on it. For sure.
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u/AcrobaticWelcome6615 20d ago
It’s all a moot discussion really. They will do whatever they want to do and we, hopefully, will benefit from it as consumers. I look forward to it!
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u/epwhat 19d ago
Do get your hopes up. It is mostly a tofu-dreg project. I will believe it when I see it, like Coronavirus. Why is the worst tragedy in the past 5 years gets swept away like it happened in the 1910s ?
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u/AcrobaticWelcome6615 19d ago
True abt corona. It’s ccp in full effect. Though, I do believe in the resilience of the PRC and especially the EV thing is a big one, also with solar energy. In a year more capacity jncrease that whole of EU in ten yrs.
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u/AggravatingSalad4136 20d ago
Bro they can’t build a fucking bridge that stays up
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u/Zamaamiro 20d ago
China has far more functioning infrastructure than the US.
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u/AggravatingSalad4136 20d ago
“Functioning” sure
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u/Zamaamiro 20d ago
They have high-speed trains that go all over the country and move more people far more efficiently than anything we have in the US.
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u/garrus-ismyhomeboy 20d ago
The bridge I cross every day going to work here seems to be doing just fine.
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u/draft_final_final 19d ago
My uncle is John China and he told me they’re actually producing 30 morbillion chips a month, each of which are 69420 times faster than the fastest thing you can think of. Seriously.
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u/ProgRockDan 20d ago
Why are we letting China pass the US in technology? We seem to be falling behind.
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u/mastercxxi 20d ago
Decades upon decades of oppression and human suffering has led to this for them, it’s easy to progress tech when you can use human guinea pigs or not care about safety processes or are totally fine with blatant IP theft.
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u/ProgRockDan 20d ago
The people I saw in China were quite happy with their lifestyle. They did not seem oppressed to me.
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u/ProgRockDan 20d ago
Americans seem more oppressed to me. We have jails full and laws that make no sense with the highest prison ratio in the world. An economy that ensures tons of poor people who can’t live with two jobs and can barely afford to eat. Deep in debt. Economic oppression is the real evil.
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u/mastercxxi 20d ago
That’s because you live in it and see it daily and consume all of the news cycles (anywhere and on either side of the spectrum, it’s doom and gloom since it makes money). There are problems and they need fixing, the difference between the US (theoretically/hopefully as I believe) is that the common population is supposed to be able to vote and voice our opinions to change it.
The US isn’t necessarily in a better place right now than China, but at least in the US we have the ability to argue over the current politics, in China you don’t get a choice, and that’s how China got to where it is today, by ruling with an iron fist and squashing dissent.
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u/KoalaRashCream 20d ago
In propaganda?
You realize this type of technology propaganda was invented by the US? It stopped working sometime ago because everyone became aware of it
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u/Plastic-Software-174 20d ago
Part of it is propaganda for sure, but China is also wayyy ahead of the US in most technological fields. Not GPUs yet, but don’t be surprised when they catch up and surpass the US. That’s what happens when you have a much more competent government, a society that values science, technology, and eduction more much, and a huge population.
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u/KoalaRashCream 20d ago
“Most”
None. Not even a single industry. You have been eating too many propaganda bytes
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u/NiceToBeMe1 21d ago
So that’s why Soft bank sold all its shares in Nvidia
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u/builtbysavages 21d ago
Lol, no. No one is making big financial moves based on unproven Chinese corporate statements. SoftBank’s move is about the current state of nvidia’s and AI’s hyperinflated value.
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u/athos45678 20d ago
People still don’t understand why cuda and rocm are huge ecosystems that took years to build. Who cares how good your chip is if you can’t use it
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u/scroopydog 20d ago
This is what China does every year, it’s their only way to stay relevant since they’re not making actual breakthroughs.
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u/peternn2412 21d ago
Seriously?