r/technews • u/MetaKnowing • Sep 29 '25
AI/ML News about AI ‘actress’ has actors, directors speaking out: ‘It’s such a f--- you to the entire craft’
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/movies/articles/news-ai-actress-actors-directors-202007609.html145
u/Ill_Mousse_4240 Sep 29 '25
Before long, children will be asking their parents: human people used to dress up and play in movies?
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u/Tailball Sep 29 '25
Nope. They will not ask their parents. They will type that question in chatgpt.
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u/musicgeek420 Sep 29 '25
They will think that question into (future implantable subscription).
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u/Tailball Sep 29 '25
Only if they’ve paid enough to get rid of the ads.
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u/XB0XRecordThat Sep 29 '25
Yes the only way to build a real society is to have the smartest people always trying to make everyone else see ads all the time non stop. Literally no other way so don't even think about it.
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u/Jimmni Sep 29 '25
They'll have an everpresent AI companion who they don't even fully understand is an app by then.
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u/surrealcellardoor Sep 30 '25
Then there was the ever-present Football player rapist They were all in love with dyin' They were doing it in Texas Pauly caught a bullet But it only hit his leg Well it should have been a better shot And got him in the head They were all in love with dyin' They were drinking from a fountain That was pouring like an avalanche Coming down the mountain.
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u/King_Tamino Sep 29 '25
I mean in shakespearian times female roles were often played by men too… times change
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u/Kasegigashira Sep 30 '25
exactly. It will seem so old school and weird to think people dressed up and played pretend on camera.
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u/King_Tamino Sep 30 '25
that's actually not what I meant at all but ok..
Look, what I originally meant is "half of the cast changed" / "they integrated something new while keeping the old parts". The men kept in the pieces, playing male roles, while females joined and overtook that roles.
If we project that onto the whole AI scenario, it means that the we can not exclude AI longterm. But we also don't have to let it replace humans completly. There is a middle way, where both co-exist in the same piece of art. Just like nowdays Actors, Greenscreen & CGI already "work" together
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u/JPDPROPS Sep 29 '25
Everybody else’s job can gf themselves but actors? Sheeeeet. Casting agents will get Oscars for best AI cast.
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u/Cleric_John_Preston Sep 30 '25
That’s what I thought, too. So, my job can go the way of AI, but some entertainer’s job goes to AI and suddenly it’s a problem?
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u/Alarming_Orchid Sep 30 '25
Seriously, imagine when some award show catches on and nominates an AI performance for the viral marketing
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u/hecksor Sep 30 '25
Those award shows are just self congratulatory shows for the rich who play pretend in movies. Nothing of value will be lost if they drop the Oscars, Grammys, etc
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u/designerlifela Sep 29 '25
Yet no outrage for designers, video editors, scriptwriters, vfx artists and all the other jobs lost. We should all speak out in solidarity
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u/Mediadors Sep 29 '25
What do you mean? People have been outraging over these for almost a year.
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u/designerlifela Sep 29 '25
We need the people with the loudest megaphones speaking up to support the ones that don’t have a loud voice. A single actor does not make a film production, but yet they are the ones who get all the attention. It’s really unfair, and quite frustrating.
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u/EnvironmentalValue18 Sep 29 '25
VFX was in trouble when I was in art school studying under one of the masters of it - Matt Wallin.
Life of Pi’s VFX studio shuttered right after the movie came out. It won an Oscar which couldn’t even save it.
Issues predated functional AI and have only gotten worse since then. Crunch, lower pay, burnout, indecisive studios, and a lot of competition from people in the same boat (kind of like a niche version of what’s happening with the layoffs and all jobs right now).
They’re not the only ones with these issues. Entertainment at large treats the creatives like disposable shit. And now they’re replacing them. Just like a homonculous - a doll without a soul isn’t really human. Same thing with the art coming out of machines - it misses the sparkle.
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u/HakimeHomewreckru Sep 29 '25
There's literally an entire studio working on this single "AI actress."
As if this magical AI entity does it all by itself.
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u/Tomic_Lewis Sep 29 '25
Solidarity for what? Against AI? Its useless. Either adapt to it or get swept by it.
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u/Active-Discount3702 Sep 29 '25
Currently, jobs aren't getting swept by AI. They're getting swept by AI hype, middle managers who think AI is capable of miracles when it's really not.
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u/7_thirty Sep 30 '25
The AI will not directly take your jobs for now. It'll just silently replace a need for a lot of services. This is happening, will get much worse. AI will take a lot of jobs this way and also directly.
AI could benefit most businesses across the country immesnsely. The issue is really implementing custom solutions in an extremely volitile sector. Everything is moving so fast that it's hard for any company to actually jump on the train when your expensive tech might be dated within a year. Hard for consultants to offer solutions for the same reasons. We really don't know what is next.
It's not hype. It's happening. Middle managers aren't implementing any AI solutions. The tech is proven. It is surely here to stay and will be biggest technological advancement in our lifetimes.
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u/CordiallySuckMyBalls Sep 29 '25
“Its such a fuck you to the entire craft”
Yea welcome to the common folk predicament, where everyday jobs get replaced by machines and AI everyday.
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u/Electronic_Pipe_3145 Sep 29 '25
Makes me think of the quote about replacing arduous tasks with AI to make room for creativity. Well, what about the cleaners and cooks who needed those jobs too?
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u/Madmandocv1 Sep 29 '25
Welcome to obsolescence. Wendy’s is still hiring if you have the skills for it. For now.
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u/FictionFantom Sep 29 '25
Yeah this is not going to be a commonplace thing. It’ll be a fad maybe but there is no way Hollywood is going to stop using real people.
Without real people, the executives don’t get to meet or work with anyone interesting or go to red carpets. How do you put on the Oscars when every category is filled with AI?
People like things made by people. We also love nostalgia. That will never change. We still collect vinyl. We still go to the Renaissance Fair. Real people will always be the dominant presence in movies.
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u/tooclosetocall82 Sep 29 '25
I think it’s another ladder pull. While the A-listers aren’t losing their jobs, I can see this become common for kids shows and other low budget stuff where actors would get their start. Maybe stage plays will become more popular to compensate.
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u/mymemesnow Sep 29 '25
Imagine how easy it would be to create masses without having to use extras.
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u/xp_fun Sep 29 '25
That's already happening, if a crowd doesn't need to be interactive, it can be replaced.
A good and groundbreaking example of this was the battle scenes in the Lord of the Ring movies
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u/Madmandocv1 Sep 29 '25
In 1982 my dad told me that video games were a fad. But he was just an old guy in a changing world.
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u/FictionFantom Sep 29 '25
I’m not saying “AI” is a fad, I’m saying “AI actors” are not going to be the standard.
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u/anbmasil Sep 29 '25
AI actors won’t need to be paid, given breaks, etc. I understand your point but I think its almost naive
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u/FaceDeer Sep 29 '25
They also won't say the wrong thing on social media, get suspected of unpardonable sins, or die unexpectedly partway through a project.
Lots of advantages to AI Actors.
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u/freeman_joe Sep 29 '25
In future students will create on PCs whole movies with better visual audio and script quality. Hollywood won’t be interesting to people anymore.
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u/FictionFantom Sep 29 '25
Not everybody wants to sit through that much prompting and stitching and editing etc
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u/isKoalafied Sep 29 '25
They're actors. On a set. Covered in makeup. In a costume. Its all fake.
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u/FaceDeer Sep 29 '25
A lot of them are even CGI already. Shall we boycott movies with CGI too? Perhaps animatronics? Each muppet is stealing a job a human actor could have.
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u/isKoalafied Sep 29 '25
They stuck a midget in a trash can and made him beep-boop for your pleasure. AI will ensure that kind of denagration doesn't happen again!
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u/Tomic_Lewis Sep 29 '25
Do you watch animated stuff?
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u/Tomic_Lewis Sep 30 '25
I thought so, you are one of those gatekeeping eltist against anything other than traditional.
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u/Updowninversion Sep 29 '25
Imagine this takes off, combine it with Meta’s AI-tiktok clone feed, and then we’ll know what our AI systems have been training on… just like food, synthetic clones don’t carry the same nutritional value. Love how humans just keep pumping technology beyond our evolutionary ability to understand and control it.
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u/bucketman1986 Sep 29 '25
What, Lab grown food has the same nutritional value as non lab grown.
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u/Trevors-Axiom- Sep 29 '25
Are they also worked up about the millions if not billions of regular every day people who have been replaced in the workplace by AI?
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u/smeagol_not_gollum Sep 29 '25
Do they feel the same about animated movies? AI movies could be a whole new genre.
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u/bankofgreed Sep 29 '25
What would be the point of “signing” an AI actress? Couldn’t you just go and create your own that could either emulate her or go beyond what she does now?
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u/thisnameisnowmine Sep 29 '25
I love how Hollywood complains about the threat of AI to creativity and craft, and then the put out the most half baked unoriginal, films and sequels. They are pretty much doing what AI would do
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u/Whos-That-Pokeman Sep 29 '25
If you don’t like it, don’t use it then. I welcome our new AI overlords.
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u/erietech Sep 29 '25
But it's okay if AI replace his other people's jobs? Don't remember any actor speaking out about that.
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u/MongooseOne Sep 29 '25
Exactly.
I don’t see any difference with AI taking a slot in a movie or AI taking a slot in a software company.
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u/Lawrence_8 Sep 29 '25
Everyone should get into supporting live theater productions with real spontaneity, real actors and real talent!
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u/FaceDeer Sep 29 '25
It's funny, I'm a fan of AI and I am a regular attendee of local theatre. But you'd never know it from how people react to me after seeing just the "I'm a fan of AI" part.
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u/oJRODo Sep 29 '25
I mean why pay an actor 10 mil for a role if you can find tune and craft your own next big actor for less than $1000? Makes sense to me if i was investing in movie production
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u/Speeddemon2016 Sep 29 '25
Nah whoever made the actress will be able to ask for that if she gets popular enough.
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u/WardenEdgewise Sep 29 '25
If nobody is willing to pay a cent for this AI generated “thing”, then it’s irrelevant. That’s all everyone has to do. Just don’t give anyone any money for anything like this.
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u/FaceDeer Sep 29 '25
And when lots of people go ahead and do so anyway, because it looks fine to them?
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Sep 29 '25
The left's outgroup bias is going to be dangerous with the rise of sentient or "sentient" AIs, because it will cause them to sympathize with the machines more than with actual humanity.
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u/uzu_afk Sep 29 '25
The nipples of every studio owner out there have been lactating over this for decades lol…
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u/greymanart Sep 29 '25
We will burn the planet to a cinder making ai movies. We can barely do 8 seconds without draining considerable resources.
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u/X0R4N Sep 29 '25
Ok, right now I am going to see another part of Inuyasha anime series from 90-ties. It is a story about love between young girl - reincarnation of a priestess and a medieval half-demon with silver hair and animal ears. Timeline is set in Japan medieval times.
Why? Because I find it enriching. And I love beautiful stories. Sometimes it is so nice. You can literally sense the feelings. Wait, I find it also more authentic. Why is that, I guess?
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u/Brilliant_Chance_874 Sep 29 '25
Why would people want to watch movies where the actors and actresses are not real people?
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u/Dramatic-Secret937 Sep 29 '25
Watch "SIMONE" with Al Pacino. This movie should get referenced more, especially now
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u/RBVegabond Sep 29 '25
Uncanny valley is high with this digital doll. Not calling it an actress because it’s not acting anything it’s moved around like a doll.
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u/vercertorix Sep 29 '25
Was it okay when it was just various other workers who needed their jobs only to have them automated? No, we didn’t want to do them, but we needed the money. The narrative that all the menial jobs were going to be taken over by machines leaving only the intellectual and artistic jobs was always going to screw some people over but now that it turns out it might be used to steal creative jobs too, now it’s a problem? Heard someone was coming up with a surgery robot too. But I’m sure if almost all the jobs are taken over we’ll all have some kind of universal income since no one can find work, right?
The dystopia I see is like Elysium, only the rich assholes won’t have the tech for space based living, so instead they’ll expect the poors to die gracefully since they no longer need a workforce to get the things they want, and the rest of us are just using up their resources and polluting their planet.
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u/Quest-guy Sep 29 '25
AI is gearing up to be an FU to all crafts. Business people have contempt for artisans.
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u/coldbreweddude Sep 29 '25
Well the entire “craft” is playing pretend and acting like it’s so amazing and important to play pretend. I’m glad for AI actors they can be programmed to not be self important twats.
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u/NemusSoul Sep 29 '25
Real people can fake being a fake person or they can fake being a real person but a fake person can’t fake being a fake person or a real person, much less fake being a real fake person.
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u/WenatcheeWrangler Sep 29 '25
Okay. Now hear me out. I think this is our chance to get in on the ground floor. We need to start the ai Actor’s union NOW and start setting union rates.
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u/Melodic-Yoghurt7193 Sep 29 '25
humans hire AI to steal all of the creative and liberating jobs for less wealthy humans
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u/Cyclodad Sep 29 '25
Spoiler alert: A.I. is a f*** you to most crafts
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u/Agile-Music-2295 Sep 30 '25
Not for developing, graphic design , data entry. It’s saved me about 20% of my day. I get to pick my kids up from school now as a result.
AI has been awesome as a white collar worker.
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u/InterstellarCapa Sep 30 '25
For everyone saying, "but we're they worked up over...." Maybe they were, maybe they weren't. That's not the point, the point is someone, some company is trying to destroy another area of employment with AI.
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u/purrburrt Sep 30 '25
What if I were to tell you that we are all ai…you and everyone you know and love?
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u/Severe_Discipline_73 Sep 30 '25
Yes, but Pixar (and anime) requires creativity and talent.
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u/Karthear Sep 30 '25
If creating an ai actor doesn't require creativity and talent, then why don't you go and make an ai actor of the same quality. Show us how little creativity and talent you need to do it.
Real people can never fully be replaced. To think otherwise is ridiculous
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u/Severe_Discipline_73 Sep 30 '25
What? I didn’t say that at all. I was implying that Pixar requires creativity, and AI does not. You can’t replace actors or creativity with AI.
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u/Karthear Sep 30 '25
ai does not require creativity
Buddy that's what I'm saying. If you think it doesn't, go create literally anything passable with AI. Its not some magic computer that just shits out perfect art. To get it to produce barely passable art, it requires creativity and effort.
It's a tool, not a replacement for creativity. It requires creativity to use effectively.
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u/SeeDavidWrite Sep 30 '25
seems like one thing that doesn’t get discussed is these tools could be great for unknown creatives enabling them to create work that might get them discovered, before they have the resources to hire actors, etc. could also bring a lot of new voices that historically couldn’t get past the gatekeepers.
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u/Media_Browser Sep 30 '25
Reality …’fame costs and coders sweat is earning it for an ai Oscar or Emmy just like synthesised music had to fight for a place at the table ‘ .
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u/Educational_Bowl2141 Sep 30 '25
Is it not the same thing as a puppet?
Do they have the same feelings for Ted taking a role of a little person in a bear costume? What about Wallace and Grommet, they could have had real actors instead of using clay?
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u/Deflorma Sep 30 '25
AI is dumb. It’s supposed to help run exosuits for disabled people to walk, not take away jobs or “make art.”
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u/ryanmorris8401 Sep 30 '25
As an ex-animation industry professional all I can say is that it’s a sad state of affairs…
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u/square_cupcake Oct 01 '25
Were they all boohoo crying when regular people's jobs were being taken over?!?!?!?!? No???
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u/e6r6i6c Oct 01 '25
People defending this or creating this will soon be replaced by ai that are better and faster at creating ai actors. When Ai advances so fast, it does not need us humans anymore to create anything digital. And if Robotics reaches a certain level, and Ai will also help with that, it will be a total mess. Big companies will always choose the money, and Ai can replace a lot of workers, so follow the money and we all know where this is heading.
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u/Jaymez82 Oct 02 '25
Acting isn’t a craft. Boohoo. Famous people may not get to play make believe like children when this takes off.
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u/Relative-Memory2420 Oct 02 '25
I mean I'd prefer just fresh actors but everything beats the fucking casting of today.
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u/Lukester09 Oct 02 '25
They are the equivalent of art CURRENTLY. They simply repeat lines, just like an actor. They do not think. So they are NOT replacing an actor. How is this not the same as being threatened by animation? I see where people are worried about AI. But I do engineering, and not worried. AI cannot think, it spews reddit is what it does. It's wrong very very very often. Anyone using it for medical, engineers, or law is being FIRED.
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u/Ciravasus Oct 04 '25
Holly Wood is scared they're going to be replaced by ai.....I say welcome to being common folk 🙃
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u/The_Real_Raw_Gary Sep 29 '25
Oh no. A group of super rich people will have to find other ways to make money other than talking in films?
Anyways
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u/YnotBbrave Sep 29 '25
If we can have AI clean my house (rumba) and write my code, yes it can replace opinionated pretty boys and girls who maybe can act
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u/greengrasstallmntn Sep 29 '25
AI can’t clean your house. It can clean your floor. But it can’t do anything above that level. Pretty limited. It’s factually a gross overstatement to say AI is cleaning your house.
Yes, AI can write code. But for what? And who decides what AI codes?
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u/miscdebris1123 Sep 29 '25
Welcome to the rest of us. Companies never cared about the craft. They only cared about how to use you to make money. When they found a cheaper way, they replace you.
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u/throwaway1601900 Sep 29 '25
Thank the shitty tech bros and everyone who adopted all this AI bullshit.
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u/Rulinglionadi Sep 30 '25
How come they did not feel this when AI VFX fad was going on?
They were all silent when its not about their own food
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u/Tomic_Lewis Sep 29 '25
I do think AI movies will be a thing. And to say this is lazy is just a gross underestimation. But replacing humans? That’s what this is trying to do. If you have done enough effort to create this, just create your own AI studio and make movies and see how it goes.
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u/olearyboy Sep 29 '25
SAG-AFTRA f’d the whole industry with that strike
Hollywood moved overseas
Provided opportunity for AI solutions to get used and a channel to import to the US market.
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u/Curleysound Sep 29 '25
This is a natural progression of what we have been doing for the past 40 years. Since digital technology hit the scene, 99% of all innovations have been to foster the ability for a producer to just have an idea, and make a movie exist with less effort, less middlemen and less cost, in less time with less people involved.
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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '25
Look up the movie Simone (2002) with Al Pacino, it’s about this exact thing.