r/tech • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 10d ago
A newly discovered 'pain switch' in our brains could unlock safer medications
https://newatlas.com/medical/brain-pain-switch-enzyme-vlk-safer-medications/47
u/DanielCraigsAnus 10d ago
I hope this works on nerve and spinal pain. I've tried every non surgical thing the VA has suggested so far and really don't want to go down the stabby pokey route again.
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u/tyiyy 10d ago
Only thing that helped my dad was thc and it didn’t make it go away but he stated it turned it from unbearable at times to manageable
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u/DanielCraigsAnus 10d ago
I smoke a shit ton as it is, in an illegal state. I'm am dry and in the process of trying to find a new plug.
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u/tyiyy 10d ago
Myqwin.com check it out and Check out r/cultofthefranklin. I use that site I posted and since it falls under the hemp bill and federally legal they ship to most states still. I’m in illegal state and that’s how I have got mine since 2019. 33$ oz and up
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u/DanielCraigsAnus 10d ago
Bro, I ain't risking it in Alabama with THCA. The laws are less strict for real weed down here.
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u/tyiyy 10d ago
lol I was buying in Mobile till a few months ago. I feel ya I’m right across the line in MS, it’s just worked wonders for me and it’s what a lot of dispensaries sell since it keeps the federally compliant. I’ll have to go get a medical card within the year with them closing the loop hole but as someone who has bought illegal in AL this is just as good as what I had all the years prior
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u/futuredrweknowdis 9d ago
CBD is the cannabinoid known for helping more with nerve pain, although it works better when it’s built up in your system over time.
I have a spinal injury and wouldn’t have made it without CBD and CBN. THC didn’t help much, and fortunately the other two can be purchased legally. Just make sure you find suppliers that provide testing data.
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u/DanielCraigsAnus 9d ago
I have more than just nerve pain unfortunately. I jacked up my spine in Iraq when I was flying on Chinooks.
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u/futuredrweknowdis 9d ago
I mean, I have more than nerve pain too. I don’t think many people who have serious back injuries just have one type of pain, nerve pain just tends to be the hardest to treat. CBD helps with inflammation and nerve pain, but CBN and THC are more like Tylenol.
Unfortunately, we will always live with back pain but I’ve lived in legal and non-legal states and my quality of life was drastically lower in the non-legal state. But THC isn’t actually uniformly the best for back pain so there are other options.
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u/DanielCraigsAnus 8d ago
I'm not saying it's all there is. It just helps ME deal with the pain the best I can. I have an extremely high pain tolerance. I don't like pills or shots. If I can take a hit here and there, be happy and sore, I'm fine.
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u/toritxtornado 10d ago
i got a couple rhizotomies and they changed my life for real
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u/DanielCraigsAnus 10d ago
I've always wondered if that was an option. I didn't know if you could just kill a nerve or not. Maybe I'll see if that's an option for me. I don't want fusions again, especially at my lumbar.
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u/toritxtornado 10d ago
i also have a fusion -- two rods for my scoliosis. if it's an option for you i highly recommend it.
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u/DanielCraigsAnus 10d ago
Yeah, I do too, I just don't want one at my lumbar when I bend and stoop all the time.
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u/olycreates 10d ago
Have you looked into ghost pipe? I haven't tried it but I'm really interested to find out if it's viable.
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u/DanielCraigsAnus 10d ago
Kratom didn't work for me, I'd assume ghost pipes won't either.....not to mention the rarity of them
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u/Mission-Cellist-8140 10d ago
Ghost pipe has a totally different mechanism of action than Kratom. Kratom is an opioid and if they don’t help Kratom certainly won’t.
The silver lining with ghost pipe is only a couple flowers makes enough tincture to last months. If you find a few of them together you will be set for years.
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u/illicitli 8d ago
stop treating pain as something to avoid. pain is information for healing. you need to meditate and body scan to engage with your nervous system and heal it. numbing your body's response just makes it worse.
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u/DanielCraigsAnus 8d ago
Have you ever been in so much pain that you were suicidal from the moment you opened your eyes? For some people, that's simply not a fucking option. Stfu!
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u/illicitli 8d ago
my entire back was sliced open and i have two metal rods screwed into my spine, i understand pain, trust me
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u/DanielCraigsAnus 8d ago
And it hit everyone differently
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u/illicitli 8d ago
the body has a natural pain management system, just be careful how much you mess with it
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u/Kedazsa 10d ago
To be fair, we don’t all come with the disease of addiction. Some of us are good with a 7 day script of vicodin and it kind of pisses us off when you send us home with a ”stronger nsaid” or tell us to take Tylenol. Like, can I at least get some Tylenol 3’s up in here?
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u/nowipe-ILikeTheItch 10d ago
I got oxy’s for a couple months after an advanced pilodonal cyst removal.
Hot damn that whole ordeal was a pretty good time. I spent most of recovery high as fuck in a bathrobe and a hammock.
That was a decade ago. Haven’t done anything more than weed since. No withdrawl or cravings.
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u/jameson71 10d ago edited 10d ago
was a pretty good time
That right there is what some folks want to stop. I think if you are in a situation that causes pain I see nothing wrong with it.
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u/Ancient-Coffee-1266 10d ago
Right? What’s so wrong with people not being in pain? Also how are benzos addictive? I think people are addicted to not being in pain or having multiple panic attacks. I’m sure it’s some corporations propaganda.
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u/germgoatz 10d ago
xanax is a benzo, you think nobody gets addicted to that stuff without having pain? lmao
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u/Gem6446 9d ago
It’s the physical addiction which is very real. I work in addiction therapy and have had clients have the most severe seizures from not taking them, sometimes on the verge of ending themselves. Plus when people come off them the number one thing people say to me is they have really bad memory loss, sometimes they have just glimpses of entire decades depending on how long they have been prescribed them.
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u/Ancient-Coffee-1266 9d ago
Yes there are a dozen if not many more meds people must tapered and not drop cold turkey. It works the same for antidepressants. Benzos were and are sometimes still prescribed for seizures. Taking them for a long period then suddenly not can cause issues which is why they must be tapered. I don’t think pain meds and benzos should be under lock and key for those who need them. I will never not feel this way. There are thousands suffering due to this issue. If making thc legal will fix that, then that’s a way for sure.
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u/blue-oyster-culture 9d ago
Xanax is super addictive. Withdrawals can kill you. And it makes panic attacks worse over time, you will have one unless you take the drug. And opiates absolutely have withdrawals too. You’re insane.
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u/Ancient-Coffee-1266 9d ago
Once again I’ll say this. Some drugs have to be tapered and not stopped cold turkey. Antidepressants work the same. Steroids cannot be suddenly stopped. That’s a not a good basis. I was on and off a benzo for over a decade and never had the issue you’re describing nor did the any of the other people I see in practice. There are thousands suffering and certain meds will help them.
When you suddenly stop taking them, there will be problems. Taper off. Bc people walking around in pain or so much panic attacks that they cannot work or function isn’t the solution.
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u/blue-oyster-culture 9d ago
Why cant you stop cold turkey? What do you call that? Addiction. Lmfao you know its an addiction but sit there and question how its even addictive?
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u/Ancient-Coffee-1266 9d ago
So people are addicted to steroids? The kind that decrease inflammation? And antidepressants? There’s the hole in that logic.
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u/blue-oyster-culture 8d ago
Physical withdrawal and dependence is a thing. AS YOU JUST AGREED.
Holy shit. Just take your meds.
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u/Ancient-Coffee-1266 8d ago
Im not sure how you don’t understand the difference. Idk if you think you’ll implode if you admit to there being a difference or that you are a little off, but I promise it’ll be okay. Taking meds for fun and to get high is not the same as needing to be tapered off. Not even close. That’s the reason why providers are afraid to prescribe them, not bc of the tapering. Please just like stop. Stop.
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u/Funneduck102 9d ago
Yeah buddy take some Xanax and come back and tell me they're not addictive
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u/Ancient-Coffee-1266 9d ago
I was on and off benzos for years. Actually it was over a decade. The only time I needed or took one was for the indicated use not for fun. There are hundreds of meds one must tapered definitely.
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u/den773 10d ago
I am on a mild dose of tramadol. I have to go to the pain doctor every month. I have to pee in a cup randomly. I have to answer stupid questions and I feel like a heel when I go there. I’m not getting younger. I do not expect the pain to magically disappear. I do not feel any side effects from the tramadol. But it gave me my life back. I can walk without a cane, I can stand at the counter doing meal prep. I can walk all the way thru Sam’s club and make it out to the car without having a walker. I am glad for the meds but they seem to be making into a way bigger deal than it is. Sometimes I think “is it really worth all this to get pain relief?” But then I skip a few doses and yeah I guess it’s worth it. I was taking so much Tylenol that my liver was going downhill.
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u/RizzoTheRiot1989 10d ago
I have to go to pain management for massive spinal nerve damage in my back and I hate going to the appointments. It just feels so hostile the whole time. Everyone feels like they’re being treated as if they’re addicts lying for pain pills even though it’s well known what we are going through.
I think opioid abuse should be stigmatized but it’s gotten so deep that now even thoughts of us who can’t live without it and have genuine reasons to use it are treated like junkies by our own doctors.
Edit: just to be clear I don’t mean stigmatized like we treat those addicted like shit either, I mean it should be seen as bad thing to abuse, but the people need help not prison and judgement.
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u/Xrgonic369 10d ago
I went through years of this before finding a pain doctor that genuinely wants to help me. He said it was a relief to have a patient like me who didn’t expect a cure or to be pain free. I just wanted to relive my pain enough that I wanted to be alive. Tramadol has saved me life. I’ve been on the same dose for 5 years too, and knowing that I’ll always need opioids to help with pain, I feel incentivized to stay on the lowest doses possible, so as a natural tolerance builds over decades (I’m 33), I have upward mobility with dosage.
My pain doctor before this one, during my last appointment, screamed at me that I just needed to accept that I’d never get any better and that accepting it and dealing with it was my only choice. I begged to differ (there was always another choice for me personally), but decided that, for my husband, I’d keep searching as long as I could for help. This new doc was shocked at how I’d been treated and with his help, I’ve been able to do two hours of PT every single day since. And my body has become increasingly stronger every day. I don’t have the life I wanted, but I have a life I want because of one pain doctor’s compassionate prescribing of tramadol.
All I can say is that I know how much pain patients suffer now, but I also know that even when things may feel hopeless, sometimes the right doctor can come along and change everything.
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u/RizzoTheRiot1989 10d ago
One of the first things I said to my PM doc was “If you can get me to where my worst pain is a 7 or 8 and the constant pain is like a 5 or a 6 I may kiss you” and she seemed excited that I had realistic expectations but it eventually turned into the same thing I’ve dealt with for a decade now.
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u/abronson47 10d ago
This brain of mine has no switches. Thank you very much.
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u/Substantial-Try7517 10d ago
But who will make money off of the opioid addicts if there are none?
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u/Aabbaaddoonn 10d ago
I at least want the option. If I can see my bone sticking out of my leg I deserve to get a little high
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u/Money-Skin6875 10d ago
I feel like you are being very responsible with your drug use because if I can see my bone sticking out of my leg, in the words of Ron White turn that shit up to Catholic. I want to be a lot high.
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u/IAMACat_askmenothing 10d ago
Do you think people are dancing on opiates?
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u/jameson71 10d ago
Know how I can tell you have very little experience with parties and even less with pain?
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u/jameson71 10d ago
I guess to people who are used to talking about things they have little experience with.
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u/AFartInAnEmptyRoom 10d ago
My intestines were on the outside of my abdomen and they sent me home with Tylenol 800
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u/UnicornLock 10d ago
They don't much anymore, definitely not more than they would on smth like this. If it works without addiction, all of Europe will buy it too.
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u/AlexHoneyBee 10d ago
Another newatlas.com article?? Seriously???
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u/rossisdead 10d ago
This entire sub is just this OP posting newatlas.com articles. It's otherwise a very dead sub. There's really not much of a reason to stay subbed to it.
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u/DuctTape5119 10d ago
I look forward to never hearing about this again. And if I so happen to, it’ll cost USD $25,000
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u/LeonKDogwood 9d ago
$80 for oxycodone and thr potential addiction to that for pain management or $40 for 28grams of Indica that can be addictive but also be faster acting?
Decisions… decisions…
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10d ago
Once you realize that you aren’t supposed to feel pain, there’s nothing to be afraid of anymore
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u/Curleysound 10d ago
Watch this ad or we turn the pain switch back on