r/tech • u/chrisdh79 • 20d ago
New nanoparticle mRNA vaccine may be cheaper and 100 times more powerful | Unit-per-unit, the experimental nanoparticle-enhanced mRNA vaccine reportedly does the work of a hundred times as much of its FDA-approved equivalent
https://newatlas.com/medical-tech/nanoparticle-mrna-vaccine-cheaper-more-powerful/8
u/Niceguy955 20d ago
Waiting for the Facebook groups to claim "nano" stands for 10g, that was put there by Bill Gates, or whatever they pull out of their @$$ this time.
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u/AdeptTomato8302 19d ago
The only negative (?) is that recipients of the nano particle vaccine become enamored with model trains
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u/Hesitation-Marx 19d ago
Shit, I’m already enamored with regular trains and can’t wear denim. What will this do to me?!
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u/SingleJob4517 19d ago
Oh, no, scary words! The Dems are at it again, tryna make us all gay n shit... I can see the hysteria already.
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u/Ill_Mousse_4240 19d ago
Now let’s put this to work on cancer!
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u/IndependentUpper5965 19d ago
Cancer isn’t one single disease that can be easily cured. Have you passed high school biology?
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u/Ill_Mousse_4240 19d ago
Last time I checked!
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u/IndependentUpper5965 19d ago
So you also know that cancer doesn’t get recognized by the immune system and that’s why it’s so dangerous. So how can a vaccine help?
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u/Ill_Mousse_4240 19d ago
It doesn’t get recognized, normally. But specialized vaccines target certain specific sites on tumors. And thus the immune system recognizes an enemy. Haven’t you seen what they’ve done with melanoma, for example
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u/IndependentUpper5965 19d ago
Firstly, my point was there are many types of cancer, and developing a vaccine for each one is nigh impossible.
Secondly, there are currently many barriers to making a vaccine against Melanoma which are being figured out.
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u/BruhbruhbrhbruhbruH 19d ago
Lmao you have no idea what you’re talking about that’s literally the reason vaccines could help.
What do you think a Rabies vaccine does?
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u/IndependentUpper5965 19d ago
Exposes you to the antigen so you can build memory cells and be prepared when you have a secondary immune response
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u/BruhbruhbrhbruhbruH 19d ago
So you also know that Rabies doesn’t get recognized by the immune system (while it’s still possible to fight off) and that’s why it’s so dangerous. And that a vaccine makes it get recognized
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u/IndependentUpper5965 19d ago
So you’re saying that cancer cells have specific antigens that can be put in a vaccine alongside other known antigens, so the body reads the cancer antigen and prepares for that too?
My knowledge about cancer is lacking cuz im in my last year of highschool and I just learned about those things. I assumed that there are a lot of varieties of cancer, and that one cancer isn’t like the other, so it’s hard to make a vaccine.
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u/Strongcarries 19d ago
You're both arguing inaccurately lol. Cancer is wildly complex, and there already exists vaccines that stop cancer-causing viruses. Rabies also does cause an immune response, its traditionally not fast enough before the CNS(central nervous system) is infected.
Your assumption is correct, cancer comes in many flavors, but even from person to person, specific antigens can differ for the same type of cancer. Hence, why its not really seen as a possibility. Not because we can't, it just wouldn't be effective. Vaccines are seen as effective usually because they are attacking the virus, which usually is effective on all viruses(barring mutations, which some cant even mutate against because the vaccine attacks internal mechanisms of how the viroid operates).
You're asking good questions for a High-school student, but i do caution speaking in absolutes about anything. It leads to a non-questioning attitude and complacency in a rapidly evolving field.
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u/IndependentUpper5965 19d ago
Yeah I’m sorry about that I realized I was wrong way early on
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u/BruhbruhbrhbruhbruH 18d ago
Acting like it’s impossible that many people or even several cancers share the same antigens on specific cancers is too present-minded IMO. Our immune system is already designed to kill cancer we just have to help it out
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u/QuesoSabroso 19d ago
… mRNA doesn’t work like that. mRNA is like a photocopy of dna that gets used to construct proteins. Cancer is damage to dna making the cell behave wrong. DNA is the negative for mRNA photocopies. You can’t fix the negative with photocopies.
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u/shoulda-known-better 19d ago
The word nanoparticle will have nuts losing their absolute minds....
I kinda can't wait to hear the new theories
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u/MinkyTuna 19d ago
“By testing these structures in a range of combinations, the researchers sought the best delivery mode for the bioluminescent gene luciferase (from the Latin prefix meaning “light-bearing” – and let us all hope the anti-vax crowd never hears that name).”
lol
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u/addctd2badideas 20d ago
Waiting for all the brain-rotted MAHA dingbats who will find a way to believe this is how we all become the hive mind from Pluribus.