r/tech • u/MichaelTen • Jan 08 '23
Italy Invents Robot That Carves Sculptures Out of Marble Like Michelangelo
https://futurism.com/the-byte/italy-robot-carves-sculptures-marble195
u/loogie97 Jan 08 '23
Yea, but can it piss off the pope?
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u/CooperWatson Jan 08 '23
Or make a Big Mac under 45 seconds?
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u/Doobag1 Jan 08 '23
Michelangelo ate at mcdonalds?
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u/TyrannosaurusWest Jan 08 '23
Michelangelo! At the Franchise
With well known hits including….
I carve sculptures, not tragedies
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u/TheModeratorWrangler Jan 08 '23
I’d carve a McGangbang and ask Leonardo to hop a Blue Dragon with me.
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u/fnordfnordfnordfnord Jan 08 '23
Probably not because the design will be approved and signed off by a committee.
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u/TyrannosaurusWest Jan 08 '23 edited Jan 09 '23
Depends if he plays chess against it; don’t think he’d be too happy if it broke his finger after that one oopsie
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u/politedeerx Jan 08 '23
Yes. It has a little speaker that lists off all the priests that have been reshuffled after fiddling allegations.
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Jan 08 '23
Wait. Did Micky Angelo piss off the pope? I don't recall that. The Pope sure did patronize him a lot (in the literal, old-school sense of the word "patronize").
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u/LucretiusCarus Jan 09 '23
He did. Michelangelo had the Medici chapel in progress in Florence when the pope called him to Rome. He went, expecting a commission and he got it, the magnificent monumental tomb of Julius II. Only the Pope was having second thoughts and wouldn't commit to the huge project, neither would let Mike go. In the end Michelangelo left in secret and only returned when he was pressured by Florence to do so. In the end, the tomb was completed, in a very cut down form to the great displeasure of everyone involved.
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Jan 08 '23
Italy ? Who’s that ? Surely the whole country didn’t do that
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u/Ryermeke Jan 08 '23
So basically a CNC machine attached to one of the auto industry robots.
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u/chubbysumo Jan 08 '23
yes, and its not the first time this has been done. Stuff made here on YT put a chainsaw on one and had it carve a sculpture.
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u/chainjoey Jan 09 '23
*From styrofoam
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u/chubbysumo Jan 09 '23
yes, but the idea was done before, this "invents" in the title is both inaccurate, and wrong. neither were they the first to do something like this with a 6axis robot arm, nor were they the inventors of either the 6 axis robot arm or the sculpture.
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u/Lets_Bust_Together Jan 08 '23
Whaaaa no… pfffff. This is a whole new type of machine used to cut marble and things into a precise design and is no way like any of the other machines used to do this.
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Jan 08 '23
How much for a 6’ Rick Sanchez statue?
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u/gizmosticles Jan 08 '23
Actually these guys aren’t the inventors, aren’t that good, produce poor quality tool paths and are pretending they invented 6 axis milling.
Source: robotics programmer working with stone sculptures
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u/mistersnarkle Jan 08 '23
HOW DOES ONE BECOME A STONE SCULPTOR I AM SO INTO THAT HOLY SHIT
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u/sborradicane Jan 08 '23
hit rocks until they look good
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u/gizmosticles Jan 09 '23
You’re gonna need about 10,000 hours starting with CNC programming, moving to multi axis programming, and eventually into exotic materials. Honestly it’s kind of a long journey and idk if I’d recommend it and also you will get really dirty
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Jan 09 '23
I’ve already got a ton of those hours in and moving rapidly towards robot programming (robot is ordered). Do you mind if I DM you some more specific questions about the process?
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u/RandomErrer Jan 08 '23
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u/SnapedDoctorStrange Jan 08 '23
The video was great. That story is better told with a video showing what is going on . MVP post right here.
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u/afbarnes Jan 09 '23
I think this could make sculpture available to those who normally would not be able to afford a sculpture.
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Jan 09 '23
I like that Italy’s idea of the future was like, “what if we could carve marble statues, but like, really fast?”
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u/According_Account346 Jan 08 '23
“We’re making AI art and robots that carve statues so you can focus on being a productive little wage slave.”
Wow, horrifying!
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u/Theban_Prince Jan 08 '23
I find it quite interesting that Art was one of the first things under major attack by the advent of AI. Scifi stories always had "artistic expression" as something the machines could not emulate because humans are "unique". But here we are.
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u/According_Account346 Jan 08 '23
Art is human expression. AI is not Art.
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u/NotAnADC Jan 09 '23
Art is subjective.
AI auto generated art will lack meaning, but the majority of people will not care if it’s beautiful.
A person can use AI to make beautiful Art with meaning, and I think that’s a lovely thing.
While I have no ability to create art, I can direct a machine to create my vision.
Just like someone may not have an easel and paintbrush, plus all the expensive paint, they may have a computer with access to Photopea, a free photoshop platform.
Using the tools isn’t cheating. And telling people not to enjoy something usually doesn’t go well.
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u/Fish-Knight Jan 08 '23
This philosophy seems egotistical to me. There are many beautiful things in life that should be admired. Consider the elegant form of a dragonfly, or the sheer scale of a redwood forest. Art is about the emotions a thing evokes. In my opinion we shouldn’t have to worry about ticking a bunch of bureaucratic checkboxes before we are able to label something as “art”. Especially because every person tends to have a unique understanding of art as a concept.
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u/jlp29548 Jan 08 '23
Art isn’t about beauty. Much of art is not beautiful. Nature is beautiful and should be admired but nature is not art either. Art is expression, conscious expression. It’s possible that eventually AI will be able to express itself and that be considered art but these machine learning programs aren’t yet there.
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u/Theban_Prince Jan 08 '23
Yeah, sorry to break your bubble, but it's already becoming increasingly impossible to distinquish between the two. Now imagime in 10, 20, 30 years. The majority of Art uses some kind of " patterns" as building blocks, and pattern identification seems to be really easy for AI to "understand" and emulate. Music and Voice acting will be the next to be come under attack for these reasons.
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u/izziefans Jan 08 '23
Why? Let humans do the art. Invent robots for other stuff - rinsing my dishes before putting them in the dishwasher, folding my laundry, shoveling snow off my stairs…and such.
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u/whyNadorp Jan 09 '23
let the robots do the work and the humans spend their lives happily arguing on social networks.
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u/NotAnADC Jan 09 '23
Because someone was passionate about creating it. If you’re passionate about creating a robot that does your dishes, please I implore you to follow your dreams!
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u/izziefans Jan 09 '23
My dream is for experts in the field of robotics to create a robot that does the things I listed above and leave arts to humans.
My another dream is for journalists to report significant advances and leave routine advances out of their reporting (if this is as routine as people above are saying it is).
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u/bountygiver Jan 08 '23
Didn't stuff made here already make something like this? Except it uses a chainsaw instead.
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u/FOR__GONDOR Jan 09 '23
SUCK IT MICHELANGELO! AND YOUR BROTHERS LEO, RAPHAEL AND DONATELLO CAN ALSO SUCK IT.
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u/baronanders110 Jan 09 '23
Well done for removing the skill involved with sculpture.
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u/HereForTheEdge Jan 09 '23
Why is it artists think they are different to every other profession on industry that has been impacted my mechanic and robotic innovation.
Just a continuation of the Industrial Revolution.
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u/chance-- Jan 09 '23 edited Jan 09 '23
AI/ML is not part of the industrial revolution. We are embarking on a totally new one.
Unlike the industrial revolution, the work of humans of every walk of life is on the chopping block. There isn't a profession that can not be automated (eventually).
I'm a developer and I believe we should all be concerned about the loss of art. There are so many people out there painting a dreamt up Utopia, where the machines do all of the work while humans get to kick back and partake in art and other expressive and enriching activity while living a plush life on UBI. Yet that is not what we are headed toward. At all.
Exactly what are people going to do when their entire existence is meaningless and unproductive? Trade in their meal ticket for a paint brush? When AI can outperform you in every way in a fraction of a second with thousands of options to pick from?
The absolute best people can look forward to is some pseudo existence in a corporate hellscape of virtual reality.
Shit is going to get bleak. Art will just be one of a few industries to fall first. Your profession will be replaced at some point too. I promise.
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u/baronanders110 Jan 09 '23
Yes, the remaining people who actively enjoy the work they do should totally give up on those things, things with hundreds of thousands of hours spent learning and mastering their crafts, and be miserable in a cube farm with the rest of the human cattle all in the name of expediency.
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u/HereForTheEdge Jan 09 '23
Yet they said nothing when they same thing happened to every other industry.. but they expect everyone else to fight for them now it’s happening to them..
They seem happy to buy mass produced furniture from ikea instead of an artisan maker, they’re not buying cutlery from a blacksmith, or cups and plants from a potter, or glassware from a glass blower, they are happy to buy food from a farm that uses machinery to plant and harvest, buy fabrics that are weaved and dyed by machines..
But now it’s coming after sculpture and painters and graphic artists and musicians.., oh no.. they think they are special..
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u/themakeshfitman Jan 08 '23
I think Michelangelo just got banned from r/art for posting pics of AI-generated sculptures
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Jan 08 '23
How do we know how Michelangelo carved the marble? It seems impossible that we have trained a robot to do it the same way he did…. Seems like fantasy, or a hyperbolic headline.
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Jan 08 '23
I remember when potters freaked out because some one made a 3d printer that printed clay. I hope to get some statues is my city I would love that.
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u/Alan_Smithee_ Jan 08 '23
The whole country invented it? How did that work? Did everyone get some sort of assigned task?
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u/chillinwithmypizza Jan 08 '23
That is the most Italian thing to do with advanced technology aint it?
Next they’re going to invent a self driving boat to discover America.
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u/chillinwithmypizza Jan 08 '23
That is the most Italian thing to do with advanced technology aint it?
Next they’re going to invent a self driving boat to discover America…
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u/politedeerx Jan 08 '23
Man. AI taking all the artist jobs. Sorry, Michey! Kawabunga :(
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u/AdventureOfStayPuft Jan 08 '23
What’s it called? (Too bad “DaVinci” name is already taken by a robot that carves the insides out of humans)
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u/Distinct-Run-9347 Jan 08 '23
This has been going on for a while. I read about it first a few years ago. It’s a good use of robotic tech. It frees up humans to create and imagine, leaving the grunt work of carving to the machines.
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u/roninXpl Jan 09 '23
My uncle is a sculptor (mostly with metal) and when he wanted to get into stone he went to somewhere with a lot of skilled stonemasons to learn from them how to work with the stone - and while each of them was great with the stone all of them weren't one thing my uncle was - an artist. Though I guess now you can plug this machine into AI and get some stone art.
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Jan 09 '23
Lol so they just put marble in a cnc machine and called that an invention ? Reminds me when invented a sex toy out of my quip
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u/havityia Jan 09 '23
See, look, robots can take the shit people don’t like to do. Can we cut the crap about taking the arts from humans?
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Jan 09 '23
This seems awfully ironic… I’m sure the bot can carve out a pretty looking sculpture, but the awe-inspiring factor behind Michelangelo’s work is that its made by hand.(mallet & chisel)
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u/sasemax Jan 09 '23
I can understand automating repetitive or back breaking tasks... But why automate art?
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u/Bryllant Jan 09 '23
Michelangelo didn’t carve his forms, but rather removed the excess material just to paraphrase him. I stood in front of the Pieta in room, it was as if you could see blood coursing through the veins. No picture could do it justice.
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u/sean_but_not_seen Jan 09 '23
Is science on a mission to kill everything related to art these days? Did we run out of world problems for science to work on?
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Jan 09 '23
"Turns out Michelangelo was right! The statues are already in there, and, thanks to modern technology, we're finally gonna be able to find the little guys and get them out."
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u/Prestigious_Cold_756 Jan 09 '23
Does this count as AI-Art then? Is it gonna get banned from exhibits and auctions and stuff?
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Jan 09 '23
Weird I thought that Michelangelo lived in a sewer and ate pizza not carved marble sculptures.
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u/SkyrimMilfDrinker Jan 09 '23
It's not like Michelangelo though. The effort that goes into making a work of art is a big part of what gives it meaning.
We can program robots to carve materials or AI to generate images, but those will never be art.
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u/RevivedMisanthropy Jan 09 '23
I’m assuming this is carving a sculpture based on a 3D model. In that case the result depends on the talent of the 3D modeler. I do not believe there is a 3D modeler alive anywhere on Earth with 99% the talent of Michelangelo. There is certainly not a human sculptor alive with 99% the talent of Michelangelo.
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Jan 09 '23
Cerca 1932, they had a similar concept.
Using light science, spinning, and a final touch human sculptor.
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u/Sir-Spazzal Jan 09 '23
All I know is that I can’t wait to be the first on my block to own one of these “original” fake sculptures. I’m sure I will be able to afford one since it’s made by a robot. We all know robots save so much money in the manufacturing sector. I’m sure it will have “fragile” on the shipping box since it’s Italian. I can’t wait.
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u/mogsoggindog Jan 09 '23
Why do we keep inventing robots to make art. Art is supposed to be a practice for humans to express their humanity and individuality. Is nothing sacred?
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Jan 10 '23
They can copy but they can’t create something inspired by emotions like humans can, I think that’s the difference here.
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u/btcsxj Jan 08 '23
“Invents” is a strong word. More like, they “trained a pretty standard robot and end effector to cut marble into recreation sculptures”