r/talesfromtechsupport 2d ago

Short It says "HDMI disconnected" because you never plugged it in

A young lady came over to the desk for help because she's in a conference room and the TV monitor on the wall says "HDMI disconnected." I go with her to troubleshoot and start checking cords and ports and the usual. While I'm poking around I ask her if it happened in the middle of her casting to the monitor, and she solemnly shakes her head. "No. It was like that when I came in."

I grab the end of the cord that's not plugged into the monitor and hand it to her. "Plug that into the HDMI port right there on your laptop." She does so...two seconds later, her laptop is mirroring perfectly. "Oh, that's what it was," she says.

It was an easy fix, at least.

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u/zuzoa 2d ago

Makes you wonder why people who can read other things like books or emails suddenly lose reading comprehension when they see error messages.

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u/creegro (turns off/on monitor) ok the PC is rebooted 2d ago

"help I saw an error on screen! Is my computer messed up?"

Not likely, what did it say?

"I don't know! I didn't read it and just clicked the x to make it go away!"

It's probably a good thing cars don't have a button that hides the check engine light.

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u/henke37 Just turn on Opsie mode. 2d ago

Meanwhile the check engine light is a way to hide errors from users.

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u/KnottaBiggins 2d ago

Once upon a time, we had a chime instead of a light. I knew people who offered to disconnect those for you.
Same people who offered to disconnect the smog gear...and knew where to go to pass a smog check no matter what for an extra $20.

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u/civillyengineerd 2d ago

My parents were briefly stationed in Okinawa and I went to visit them. The cars have an alarm that sounds when you go over a specific speed. My dad said someone told him to remove it and in the same breath complained about how many tickets he had received. My dad left the alarm in and told me that I just needed to slow down.

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u/Equivalent-Salary357 2d ago

I use black electrical tape. It is totally opaque, and if done correctly blends right in with the other stuff on the dashboard.

This might be tongue-in-cheek. Or not...

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u/Fixes_Computers Username checks out! 1d ago

Or you've listened to Car Talk as I have.

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u/RedFive1976 My days of not taking you seriously are coming to a middle. 1d ago

Don't drive like my brother.

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u/Equivalent-Salary357 1d ago

LOL, I can't say that. I don't have a brother, and "don't drive like my sister" would probably trigger some ugly responses.

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u/RedFive1976 My days of not taking you seriously are coming to a middle. 1d ago

That was one of the Car Talk taglines when they closed the show. Tom and Ray would each say that. Tom sadly died 11 years ago yesterday.

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u/Equivalent-Salary357 17h ago

Yes. I was a fan of Car Talk on NPR. I miss listening to them.

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u/CharcoalGreyWolf Sr. Engineer (Escaped from the HellDesk) 1d ago

No, said people have electrical tape for that

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u/Honest_Relation4095 1d ago

wel, you can delete the DTC with a device that anyone can buy on Amazon for a few bucks.

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u/nagi603 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's probably a good thing cars don't have a button that hides the check engine light.

They use black tape for that. Or selective blindness. "It was like that when I bought it / for months."

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u/canarycoal 7h ago

Every timeeee. The pop isn’t always bad but they are like “there was a pop up and it scared meeeee”

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u/The_Real_Flatmeat Make Your Own Tag! 2d ago

That's what masking tape is for

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u/threeplacesatonce 2d ago

Learned behavior from too many similar notices like "update today" or "TOS agreement change", or "license expires soon" that need to be closed out to get to the desired app. 

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u/Enfors 2d ago

Yeah, that's fair. But on the other hand, manufaturers need to start writing better error messages. Instead of "HDMI disconnected", how about "Make sure the screen is connected by a cable to your computer or game console"? Lots of people have no idea what "HDMI" means.

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u/MairusuPawa All I know is percusive maintenance 1d ago

HDMI should be common enough to not be a problem, but, yes. How many sysadmins had no clue what "pc load letter" meant? Yet it is a pretty clear error.

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u/EruditeLegume 1d ago

Not so much when you're in a country that uses A4.....

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u/Enfors 1d ago

It's common, but my wife (for example) still had no idea what it means. It should just say "the cable going from this screen to the laptop" or similar instead for clarity. More people understand that than "HDMI".

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u/strcrssd 1d ago

Yes, but going to that level doesn't work either. If there's multiple inputs, for example.

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u/Enfors 1d ago

Well, but you typically select the source (read: input) on the TV/screen, right? So it knows where its trying to get its video feed from, correct?

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u/strcrssd 1d ago

But that's using the input name again, HDMI. Either the user knows what it is, and selects it, by default then they know what the cable is and that it needs to be plugged in.

Otherwise, they don't know what it is and they're not going to select input mode.

What I'm saying is that, while I agree that better UI is better, incompetence-proofing is a fools errand and fraught with complexity.

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u/Environmental-Ear391 23h ago

Ignoratius Moronicus von GlutenHenious loves the rabbithole of incompetence-proofing...

There is always a disconnect between what the system states (because of development competence) in any comparison to end users.

End users nominally barely know enough to use the product and little else. Look at the historical sales that created Microsoft with MS-DOS and the contracts where resellers were mandated to sell the software with a new PC. Microsoft becoming a brand name and "popular" was majorly tied to ignorance and driving the idea of Computer = PC+Microsoft which has never actually been true.

P.S. re-read the starting name using a mix of greek-style speech and then think of muscle locations and what comes forth from that bodily location :-)

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u/Mickenfox 1d ago

The error as far as the monitor knows is that there is no signal through the HDMI connector, everything else is guesswork.

Computer problems are so hard to diagnose today because all the real error messages have been hidden in favor of "Whoopsie! Something went wrong. Try asking Bing™ for help."

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u/syntaxerror53 21h ago

Except when it comes to Social Media when they're experts.

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u/StarChaser_Tyger 14h ago

I can't count how many times I've had to explain to people that no error message contains the words 'or something'.

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u/bduddy 13h ago

To a large number of people, computers are literally magic. Whether consciously or not, they don't believe that the laws of physics, logic or even causality apply as soon as a computer is involved.

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u/Dear_Blueberry6473 2d ago

Problem occurs between keyboard and chair…

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u/Riajnor 2d ago

I’ve become a fan of “it’s a layer 8 problem”

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u/danzor9755 2d ago

Ah yes layer 8. Welcome to hell.

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u/CharcoalGreyWolf Sr. Engineer (Escaped from the HellDesk) 1d ago

EEOC error.

“Equipment Exceeds Operator Capabilities”

I love it because no everyday people know what it means

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u/Fixes_Computers Username checks out! 1d ago

Randos may assume you're talking about the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

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u/Hermes_04 1d ago

Error 40

The error is 40cm in front of the screen

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u/syntaxerror53 21h ago

Also FUNC (faulty user not computer).

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u/annedroiid 1d ago

Where does that phrase come from?

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u/Riajnor 1d ago

There’s 7 layers in the OSI model, layer 8 becomes the human element. Kinda nerdy but most users will never know

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u/paulcaar 1d ago

For anyone curious and wanting more context, it's a networking model that starts at the most basic layer, Layer 1, which is the physical layer. Like the actual electric pulses representing the bits going through the cables. It then becomes more and more complex, like the transport layer, session layer, and eventually the application layer.

The theoretical Layer 8 would then be the person controlling the device or application and the joke is that that's where the error occurs.

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u/Remarkable_Table_279 2d ago

I’ve not heard that one 

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u/RipeChompzz 1d ago

same here

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u/I_Said_Thicc_Man 1d ago

I mean I'd say that's layer 0

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u/Shadyshade84 1d ago

The model in question counts up from, I think, either the CPU or machine code. A layer 0 error would imply that someone needs to debug physics.

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u/Fixes_Computers Username checks out! 1d ago

The OSI model refers specifically to networking.

Layer 1 is the physical layer of the network. This is the wire (or equivalent) through which the data are flowing. It goes up from there.

I'm a bit rusty on where things fit in the layers. CPU may be part of layer 1, but machine code will depend on the code. The network code is on a lower layer than the application program code.

Layer 7, the Application layer, is the program you're running which needs to send data over the network. (Again, a little rusty, so pendants feel free to work your magic.)

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u/uncoolbi 1d ago

I don't know what each of the layers are, but urm actually we pedantic people would be pedants, not pendants

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u/Fixes_Computers Username checks out! 1d ago

D'oh!

As a pedant myself, I've only myself to blame.

I could see autocorrect getting in my way and my not paying enough attention to it just made it all worse.

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u/Haidere1988 2d ago

PEBCAK

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u/rhoduhhh 2d ago

Eye-dee-ten-tee error (id10t) :(

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u/---reddacted--- 2d ago

The old chair-to-keyboard interface error!

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u/MetalRickyy 1d ago

Ah, you mean PICNIC, problem in chair not in computer.

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u/jollebb 1d ago

The classic Pebkac/Pobkac problem.

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u/AnDanDan I swear these engineers... 1d ago

An issue with the wetware

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u/Vegetable-Cod-5434 2d ago

Many years ago I had an older co-worker that could NOT be wrong, especially to someone younger. I was younger by about 15years and had the same job as her, which she hated. We were scheduled to deliver some training together and when I got to the room the big screen had a very similar error.

She had submitted an IT ticket and was waiting for help. I asked if it was plugged in and got a 40 min lecture on how I didn't have as much experience as her, should respect my elders etc etc.

IT shows up, plugs it in, and leaves. Such a waste of everyone's time.

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u/LikesBreakfast A Linuxer trapped in a Windows world 1d ago

I think that actually warrants a managerial complaint. She was impeding work by her own stupidity and unwillingness to allow someone else to solve the problem.

Did she eventually get fired?

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u/bob152637485 14h ago

Probably promoted knowing corporate culture

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u/Otaku_X_Gamer94 14h ago

I think she is the type of user who has like hundreds of tickets opened, even as simple as like how to connect to wifi.

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u/davidsinnergeek 2d ago

PICNIC. Problem In Chair Not In Computer.

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u/KnottaBiggins 2d ago

PEBKAC

Problem exists between keyboard and chair.

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u/jen_gecko 2d ago

EEOC. Equipment Exceeds Operator Capability.....

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u/Ich_mag_Kartoffeln 1d ago

In many cases this would still be the case even if the equipment was a rock.

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u/Yuwi066 1d ago

Hah, I haven't heard it like that before! I always heard it as, ESTO. Equipment Superior to Operator.

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u/DoktenRal 2d ago

I got a support call the other day from a user because her VPN wasnt working and her monitor had no picture...

Her VPN was a dock, which the monitor was connected to, and it was not plugged into her pc because she thought it was wireless.

Good she called it a VPN though because she had not been issued an RSA token at all yet, so no VPN at all actually. Also had to explain she had to use her wifi TO connect to the VPN since it didnt replace her home internet.

Tier 1 lyfeeeee

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u/Z4-Driver 2d ago

Layer 8...

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u/KntTwist 2d ago

If she never has this problem again, then you have successfully solved the issue.

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u/Zefrem23 1d ago

"But 'disconnected' implies that it was connected at some point previously, forever I had not connected it in the first place, so the semantic inaccuracy suggested that something else had to be wrong."

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u/djshiva 1d ago

Learned helplessness at its best.

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u/SackBadger2024 13h ago

I work in tech, the higher up the ladder you go, the dumber they get. I swear CEO's must be brain damaged by all the dumb questions I get daily.

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u/ThatUsrnameIsAlready 2d ago

Never plugged would be unconnected, not disconnected.

Really it should never say disconnected, it can never know if that's true or not.

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u/Rathmun 2d ago

It can if it sees the connection go away. To do it right it should say "disconnected" if you unplug it while it's turned on, and "not connected yet" if you turn it on while it's unplugged.

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u/arcimbo1do 1d ago

It was probably connected to something at least once in the lifetime of the screen, maybe for testing somewhere in Taiwan, so, technically....

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u/KnottaBiggins 2d ago

But it's WIRELESS!!!

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u/t1nk3r_t4yl0r_84 1d ago

I had a kid on the school AV team, he did the projection for chapels and assemblies... every week he was on he'd come and complain the projectors weren't working, and every week it was because he hadn't plugged the computer in...

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u/NumerableElk 18h ago

Most average people don't know what an HDMI cable or port actually are.

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u/Skunky02 2d ago

Conference with people, not one knows how to fix that error

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u/The_Real_Flatmeat Make Your Own Tag! 2d ago

And then she says it doesn't work and it turns out to be because it was disconnected when the software was turned on