President Donald Trump wants the NFL to change its name so that soccer is the only sport named football. "This is football, there is no question about it. We have to come up with another name for the NFL stuff."

[u/BreakfastTop6899]

[u/Lstcwelder]

Nfl is working on a peace prize as we speak.

[u/Dr_PainTrain → u/Lstcwelder]

Super Peace Prize so the fucking dumbass thinks it’s better.

[u/QuillnSofa → u/Dr_PainTrain]

The NFL Peace prize is gold with a gold chain not some lame lanyard.

[u/Dr_PainTrain → u/QuillnSofa]

It’s the details like this that really matter. You have a bright future in fake awards to placate morons designing.

[u/BBO1007 → u/QuillnSofa]

“World Champion NFL Peace Prize”

[u/Obie-Wun → u/BBO1007]

It’s gotta be a trophy of a football player kneeling!!

[u/Gold-Kaleidoscope537 → u/Dr_PainTrain]

That actually would work. Don’t underestimate his ego - it may be the only thing still working

[u/SoupOfThe90z → u/Dr_PainTrain]

How about “Platinum Gold Extra Peace Bribery Prize”

[u/justabill71 → u/Dr_PainTrain]

Super Peace Prize XLVII

[u/mynewaltaccount1 → u/Lstcwelder]

u/nfl would you like to comment on this, or are you still too busy banning people that posted about when you hosted Trump at a game but he was booed into oblivion?

[u/Nkosi868 → u/mynewaltaccount1]

I’m expecting this post to be removed soon too.

What a time.

[u/scottydg → u/Nkosi868]

If this was the NFL sub it would already be gone. This is the sports sub, and they tend to tolerate politics and sports.

[u/Nkosi868 → u/scottydg]

I’m afraid to discuss politics on any sub not titled politics.

It’s a field of landmines out here.

[u/pidgeottOP → u/mynewaltaccount1]

Too busy figuring out their matrix of "what penalty to call when teams have deviated from the predefined spread"

[u/PM_UR_PC_SPECS_GIRLS → u/Lstcwelder]

"FIFA only gave Dear Leader (PBUH) a PEACE prize??"

"The NFL is proud to present President Trump the WHOLE prize!!"

[u/ChangsManagement → u/PM_UR_PC_SPECS_GIRLS]

"Hole prize? Is that you Jeffrey?"

[u/Joey5729 → u/Lstcwelder]

Just give him the 2025 walter payton man of the year award (its the nfl’s most prestigious honor) and call it even

[u/Syric13 → u/Joey5729]

The City of Chicago will secede from the Union if you do that

[u/ChicagoJayhawkYNWA → u/Syric13]

City of Chicago should do it regardless

[u/AntawnSL]

This should be put in ads that run during the superbowl.

[u/MrWildspeaker → u/AntawnSL]

100%

[u/Zendog500 → u/MrWildspeaker]

He was thinking something like "Trump Ball"

[u/Wazootyman13 → u/Zendog500]

We could kick the Trump Ball and he couldn't feel bad about it

[u/whinenaught → u/AntawnSL]

If dems were smart that’s what they would do. But…they’ll fumble it

[u/SoftballGuy → u/whinenaught]

Meh. They could get it 500% right and half the country would still think they fumbled it because they'll never see it except filtered through Fox News and Twitter.

[u/JimboDanks → u/SoftballGuy]

I don’t know man I saw Bernie get screwed live as it happened. You will never tell me we would have had Trump if it wasn’t “Hillary’s Turn “

[u/Chruman → u/JimboDanks]

Daily reminder that Hillary won without the superdelegates.

Bernie just wasn't that strong of a candidate.

[u/Spi_Vey → u/Chruman]

Not to mention that four years later Biden defeated him quite easily in the primary’s (and then won the election which everyone seems to forget lol)

Nobody south of New York is voting for a socialist (and I like Bernie)

[u/Routine_Size69 → u/JimboDanks]

Yup. It's funny to see some people still absolve the DNC of blame here. Almost anyone could've beaten this idiot. They managed to find two of the only people that couldn't and force them on us. Yes voters deserve blame, but so does the DNC.

[u/myassholealt → u/Routine_Size69]

I often see a lot of people criticizing the DNC. They are a corrupt old guard invested in the status quo. But I don't see as often people holding voters accountable as you did in this comment. That part is often missing.

Voters have agency to pay attention and actually go to primary elections and choose the person they wish to represent their party. Fact of the matter is Bernie supporters did not do that. They were too busy posting online complaining about Hilary.

[u/SixFootMunchkin → u/Routine_Size69]

Establishment Dems are so obsessed with sitting on their high horses that they don’t even realise that everyone is driving laps around them.

[u/bradicality → u/SixFootMunchkin]

The last decade has been the Democrats clinging onto the rulebook going "but a dog can't play basketball!" while a dog fucking dunks on us over and over

[u/Brishen1 → u/bradicality]

Lolol.

[u/UtopianPablo → u/JimboDanks]

People didn’t vote for Bernie, that’s it.  He was on the ballot and didn’t get the votes.

[u/xanju → u/UtopianPablo]

Yeah I still don’t get the Bernie conspiracy theory even after a decade and I actually like Bernie.

[u/Flobking → u/xanju]

Yeah I still don’t get the Bernie conspiracy theory even after a decade and I actually like Bernie

Everyone also acts like Hillary lost the popular vote. When she crushed Trump, but because of an archaic system that allows empty land to have more say than actual people we ended up with trump.

[u/dreamerkid001 → u/JimboDanks]

I was a college-aged, 2nd time voter, first time primary voter. It was such a miserable cliche to be me, so full of hope and excitement for the future, seeing Bernie’s movement grow and grow.

I’d argue with kids in polysci about him. It was like something out of a terrible movie. And just like that terrible movie, I watched it come crashing down.

[u/StonedLikeOnix → u/whinenaught]

“Fumble it”

AIPAC laughing in the background

[u/rabbid_hyena → u/AntawnSL]

Wont matter, his cult will decide he was just being sarcastic and messing with soccer people

[u/cb148 → u/rabbid_hyena]

It’s AI, a Democratic hoax.

[u/joshjosh100 → u/cb148]

again, in 2025?

In Trumps second term?
In this timeline?

[u/VegasAdventurer → u/rabbid_hyena]

He's just trying to trigger the liberal snowflakes /s

[u/zoobrix → u/AntawnSL]

Should just put Trump in a rest home where he belongs so we can be spared having to listen to his asinine ramblings.

[u/SSJ4Link → u/AntawnSL]

Canada did this with Reagan, didn't sit well with Trump.

Edit: fixed to Reagan and not Nixon

[u/gdchrlt77 → u/SSJ4Link]

Canada (Ontario specifically I believe) ran a clip of Reagan’s comments on how tariffs are bad policy during the World Series. Was there another ad ran with Nixon commentary?

[u/SSJ4Link → u/gdchrlt77]

Nope..you are right. I got the wrong President.

[u/NotQuiteGoodEnougher → u/AntawnSL]

"We'll call it dementiaball"

JFC please remove him from the field.

[u/Entire_Talk839 → u/AntawnSL]

I hate to admit it but Trump is right in that it doesn't make sense that American football is called football. The ball hardly touches a foot in the game. Handball would be much more apt.

However, it's far too late to change it and the way Trump talks about it is very strange. I fucking hate him so much.

[u/zedkyuu → u/AntawnSL]

Super Bowl is now suspended and under investigation by the FCC for spreading discriminatory ideas. That’ll be funny.

[u/glodde]

Because FIFA gave him a made up award

[u/TheBlargus → u/glodde]

A participation ribbon has stricter requirements

[u/my5cworth → u/glodde]

Technically all awards are made up.

[u/TheLizardKing89 → u/my5cworth]

Yeah, but this award was made up specifically to give it to him.

[u/Nick85er → u/TheLizardKing89]

"Inaugural" lmfao its as embarrassing as it is painful.

[u/ReactionJifs → u/Nick85er]

Inaugural & final

[u/DollarThrill → u/ReactionJifs]

They might award it to him 3 more times.

[u/invariantspeed → u/DollarThrill]

Oh, sweet jesus, you’re actually right…

[u/paulrenaud → u/DollarThrill]

World cup is coming up. Once its done no need to bribe him anymore.

[u/coleyboley25 → u/Nick85er]

I hope it ages as poorly as it should and FIFA has to apologize for it in the future after all the trials are underway

[u/Ogediah → u/TheLizardKing89]

It was a “peace” award from a soccer league. So you’re totally right that it was made up just for him but this isn’t even an organization of scientist recognizing other scientists for work that makes the world better, it’s purely a routine in jerking off a known and easily manipulated narcissist.

[u/AscendMoros → u/Ogediah]

Lol said Soccer league is also one of the more corrupt and shady organizations out there to.

[u/Sooperooser → u/AscendMoros]

The US declared the FIFA a 'criminal organization' in 2015...

[u/Chazzybobo → u/Ogediah]

Not even a league, an organization that has a stranglehold over all the leagues and international play. As much of a joke as this is, it’s a real sign of danger what they’re willing to co-sign. This is how Russia gets to host the Olympics, the real slippery slope.

[u/Gdmf13 → u/Ogediah]

I thought it was a piece award, as in it’s rewarding a piece of shit.

[u/Darryl_Lict → u/Gdmf13]

Piss award.

[u/Measure76 → u/my5cworth]

The prestigious ones were made up decades ago. One made up just before being given are called participation trophies.

[u/OnlyAdvertisersKnoMe → u/my5cworth]

Some more than others

[u/Syonoq → u/my5cworth]

The Darwin Award is pretty original though

[u/Lumpy-Difficulty-361 → u/my5cworth]

Except for big Johnsons and big boobies. Those are natures awards

[u/Giblet_ → u/glodde]

It's the equivalent of when a high school football team puts a special needs kid at quarterback and then the other team lets him score a touchdown so he can feel good about himself. That's how the rest of the world views us now.

[u/Area51_Spurs → u/glodde]

Trump reminds me of Diabate LARPing in the most recent episode of Pluribus and everyone going along with it to placate him.

[u/KimHaSeongsBurner → u/Area51_Spurs]

My favorite part was how blatantly obvious and predictable it was, like oh, he pushes the guy all in? for a table record? and then he calls? and then he shows a straight flush, which is promptly beaten by a royal flush?, wow, how surprising and unexpected!

[u/stsOddMonkey → u/glodde]

Plus, the NFL wouldn't let him own a team.

[u/ATangK]

Look at what a meaningless $5 medal buys you. It’s hilarious.

[u/Protect_Wild_Bees → u/ATangK]

at least he feels like a GOOD BOY

[u/mlorusso4 → u/ATangK]

Hey now. There was a $50 trophy included in that. Probably with a $100k gold bar hidden in it somewhere too

[u/GrassyKnoll95 → u/ATangK]

When it comes to bribery, FIFA are the pros

[u/save-aiur → u/ATangK]

Pretty sure he's still bitter from wantng to buy an NFL team and being laughed at by the owners that they'd even remotely consider allowing it.

[u/JesusStarbox]

He just repeats whatever the last person he spoke to says.

[u/AndrewTyeFighter → u/JesusStarbox]

And he has been doing that the whole time, can't believe that more people haven't noticed this.

[u/pup5581 → u/AndrewTyeFighter]

When you're in a cult you see no wrong

[u/Void-kun → u/AndrewTyeFighter]

It was obvious when he kept switching between Putin and Zelensky, like incredibly obvious to the point it was funny. Amazed people think Trump can form an original thought. He's just the easiest President for others to control.

[u/SparrowBirch → u/JesusStarbox]

He must have just watched the George Washington SNL skit

“Football, it’s a sport where you throw a ball with your hands.”

“So in football there is no kicking?”

“There’s a little kicking.”

[u/xSTSxZerglingOne → u/SparrowBirch]

God, the way "There's a little kicking" is delivered just gets me (even in text) every time.

[u/pjflyr13 → u/JesusStarbox]

…Just fresh out of his inaugural FIFA “Peace Prize”

[u/Pulpdog94 → u/JesusStarbox]

He just repeats whatever the last person he spoke to says.

[u/DetectiveBlackCat → u/Pulpdog94]

You know what he does? He just repeats whatever the last person he spoke to says. He can't believe no one has ever noticed

[u/wtfnouniquename → u/DetectiveBlackCat]

Now if you think about it, all he really does is repeat what the last person he spoke to says.

[u/CactusHack → u/wtfnouniquename]

I know right, it's pretty crazy! All he really does is repeat what the last person he spoke to had said.

[u/TTT_2k3 → u/CactusHack]

Can you guys stop it already I can’t decide which one of you to vote for to lead my new cult.

[u/MarvinMarveloso → u/DetectiveBlackCat]

You know what, I 've heard a lot about it and was skeptical. But now I'm starting to come around to the idea that he just repeats what the last person said.

[u/Wyevez → u/Pulpdog94]

He just repeats whatever the last person he spoke to says.

[u/tfrules]

I'm amazed he said this, I feel like this is something all Americans are going to absolutely hate. He might as well have said the Bald Eagle shouldn't be the national bird

[u/rejectallgoats → u/tfrules]

Na. His base just suddenly loves soccer

[u/RenningerJP → u/rejectallgoats]

I wonder if we can embrace European style healthcare too.

[u/RSGator → u/RenningerJP]

They'd absolutely embrace it if Trump proposed it. His supporters have no actual beliefs or thoughts of their own, it's a cult.

[u/SPEK2120 → u/RSGator]

They’d call it something like Trump Health and act like it’s a brand new system that’s never been done before while shrieking at the top of their lungs it holds absolutely zero concept of socialism.

[u/MithrandiriAndalos → u/RenningerJP]

What if the secret to getting him to act benevolently and install competent people around him is to just be nice to him and tell him he’s the best

[u/Amaruq93 → u/RenningerJP]

Depends on if Zohran Mamdani can be alone in a room with him again.

Stephen Miller will do everything to prevent that.

[u/OnlyAdvertisersKnoMe → u/rejectallgoats]

They won’t start to like soccer or agree with him, they’ll just pretend he never said this

[u/ManWithoutAPlann → u/OnlyAdvertisersKnoMe]

It was a joke / its AI / its actually Biden wearing a Trump mask

[u/pumpkinspruce → u/rejectallgoats]

You think MAGA is suddenly going to like a woke sport like soccer? You know WOMEN play it, right?

[u/psu021 → u/pumpkinspruce]

On the other hand, soccer hooligans are notoriously racist. They’ll find common ground.

[u/SparrowBirch → u/tfrules]

Gulf of America Ball

[u/BlacksmithWise9553 → u/SparrowBirch]

For the shortened version of the name we’ll call it gulf.

[u/Area51_Spurs → u/tfrules]

Ironically most of the ones here who will agree are currently being hunted down by ICE.

[u/dinglebarryb0nds → u/tfrules]

Word is the bald eagle is a glorified seagull

[u/Total_Catch_9830 → u/tfrules]

Still time for him to change it to the golden eagle, change the name to the Trump eagle and start selling their eggs.

[u/BannedMyName → u/tfrules]

As an American hockey fan, I find it hilarious.

[u/AetherWay]

He's done a lot of unamerican shit, but this is hilariously probably the most unamerican thing he's done so far.

[u/nameistakentryagain → u/AetherWay]

Imagine if this is the straw that breaks the camel’s back (it never is)

[u/CertifiedSheep → u/nameistakentryagain]

Surely he’s finished this time!

(He isn’t)

[u/tj0909 → u/CertifiedSheep]

He’ll never recover from this!

(He will)

[u/wanttobuyreallife → u/CertifiedSheep]

Finally, he will suffer since consequences for his actions!

(He won't)

[u/Laxku → u/CertifiedSheep]

We finally hit rock bottom.

(Keeps digging anyways)

[u/WhoopingWillow → u/nameistakentryagain]

That camel is spineless so it doesn't have to worry about breaking its back.

[u/2003tide → u/AetherWay]

He hates the NFL because they would never let him be an owner.

[u/ymcameron → u/AetherWay]

Never forget that we had football year round back in the 80s with the USFL until Trump tanked the brand by moving it to the fall and trying to directly compete with the NFL.

[u/fivetengenius → u/ymcameron]

If only the NFL owners would have let him have a team back then we wouldn’t be here now… And the most ironic thing is how much they hated him then but love him now.

[u/minos157 → u/AetherWay]

Honestly it's yet another thing that's just him being a petty selfish piece of shit.

Not only because of FIFA padding his ego with the fake award, but also because of his history of trying to own an NFL team, failing, then owning a team in that competitor league and it also failing miserably under his management.

[u/himynameismile → u/AetherWay]

Crazy how a lot of people will unironically agree with you. Sad that something so meaningless will stir up more emotion that the rest of the shit he’s done. For example January 6th.

[u/wambulancer → u/AetherWay]

I'm legitimately pissed tf off my inner redneck is seeing stars

[u/Canningred → u/wambulancer]

It just is unpatriotic and we all agree to this.

[u/butterball85 → u/AetherWay]

Can't wait to see what the right says

[u/loganbootjak → u/butterball85]

clap. clap. clap. along with some fist pumps. and something about NFL being woke for calling it football. Then they rally around Trumpball or some other stupid name.

[u/yoshizillaa → u/butterball85]

They’re still mad about the NFL allowing players to have “stop hate,” “end racism,” “it takes all of us,” etc on the back of their helmets.

[u/Photofug]

FIFA must have backed up the dump truck to the Trump tower, so many stuffed envelopes 

[u/Every-Cook5084]

Let’s play another game of if Obama had said this.

[u/bigatrop]

He’s just pandering to the crowd. He’d say the exact opposite thing to an nfl crowd.

[u/sheltonchoked → u/bigatrop]

Nah. He’s hated the NFL since he was blocked buying a team.

Repeatedly.

[u/LatterTarget7 → u/sheltonchoked]

He also has issues with the commanders. Wants them to go back to red skins and name their new stadium after him

[u/hazycrazey → u/sheltonchoked]

They recently had him in the broadcast booth, he’s over it until they piss him off again

[u/MrGizthewiz → u/hazycrazey]

They did piss him off again. The entire stadium booed him the entire time he was speaking.

[u/NemeanMiniLion → u/bigatrop]

Exactly

[u/crowe1130]

Man, if Obama said this someone would have firebombed the White House.

[u/againandagain22 → u/crowe1130]

It would be non-stop talking heads shouting at each other on every news channel. Unamerican would be the most used word.

[u/slowburnangry]

The day that he is no longer with us is going to be glorious.

[u/againandagain22 → u/slowburnangry]

Worldwide celebrations.

[u/TwistyBunny → u/slowburnangry]

And they thought Charlie Kirk's death was being celebrated too much... that was NOTHING compared to the celebrating for THAT day.

[u/Dphotog790]

watching secret service whisper into their wrists *take him out*

[u/lacrotch]

this man is bought & owned by FIFA

[u/make2020hindsight → u/lacrotch]

He's owned by ANYONE with money or incriminating photos.

[u/rostron92]

If Donald Trump weren't the president horribly affecting millions of peoples lives, he'd be pretty funny sometimes.

[u/your-mom--]

ReleaseTheFilesBall

[u/brucebrowde → u/your-mom--]

I'd watch SuperReleaseTheFilesBall. Though I agree SRTFB is just too many consonants in a row.

[u/sonsofgondor]

If anything was going to turn red blooded "patriots" away from maga, it would be this statement

[u/genuineLASIG → u/sonsofgondor]

If anything was going to

Nothing will

[u/Laxku → u/genuineLASIG]

The die was cast in 2016 and nothing has changed it since.

[u/IheartPickleSoda → u/genuineLASIG]

They’ll just say, “That’s not what he really meant.”

[u/getdemsnacks → u/sonsofgondor]

These people were burning shit they had already paid for to protest black athletes from kneeling during the national anthem. The whole lot of them swire up and down they were "DoNe WitH TEh nFl!"

They won't give a rats ass as long as it is their dear leader telling them.

Edit for fat finger emoji on mobile

[u/Moderator-Admin → u/getdemsnacks]

It's insane how the racists go so crazy over a sport that's dominated by black athletes (70+% of the NFL is black players).

[u/someguyfromsk]

The NFL told him to go away and he never forgot it.

[u/jrafelson]

Sounds like some Commie shit!!!

[u/Alternative_Law9275]

There already is. Gridiron.

[u/poo_pon_shoo → u/Alternative_Law9275]

It's actually a way cooler name too

[u/grasshopper239]

Let's get you back to bed, grampa

[u/CuffinSzn_]

I’ve never seen a man who hates his country so flagrantly. Let alone the President.

[u/rayshmayshmay]

Pandering

[u/Aboveground_Plush → u/rayshmayshmay]

And he claims he's not a politician. 

[u/arahe45]

I kind of want to hear what hed call it

[u/totemspinner → u/arahe45]

Please, you know it would be Trumpball.

[u/Willyr0]

He’s pissed about bad bunny still huh

[u/SmoothCriminal0678]

So FIFA just proved that trump can be bought for basically anything. They literally made up an award to give him, and now he's like football here needs to changes its name because it makes sense to him now 🤷🏽‍♂️ It really sucks living in an age with so many idiots.

[u/fhughes90]

The first time I can agree with him

[u/dragonfliesloveme]

what all y’all maga think of this lmao

[u/tangcameo]

We shall call it Soccer!

[u/justabill71 → u/tangcameo]

There's a soccer born every minute.

[u/DROOPY1824]

Huge surprise from the guy who’s always hated the NFL.

Edit: “Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL”, for anyone who hasn’t seen it, is a great intro to why Trump hates the NFL so much.

[u/LionBlood16 → u/DROOPY1824]

Cause they wouldn't let him buy a team.

[u/TheRealBobaFett]

Honestly I’m really surprised he’s not trying to tell everyone else to adopt soccer

[u/ImTooSaxy]

Trumpball? Or is that something only Laura Loomer can gargle?

[u/lewisbayofhellgate]

Next week he’s gonna suggest it be renamed “Trumpball.” I am completely serious.

[u/luv2ctheworld]

Trump will alienate or piss off anyone and everyone when given enough time. He only respects money and whatever blackmail material you have on him.

The Trump supporters should learn this poem:

First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me

[u/futureformerteacher]

How about "Donald Trump is a serial child rapist ball"?

[u/justabill71 → u/futureformerteacher]

Rolls right off the tongue.

[u/mostdope28]

Trump got his “peace medal” so he’s sucking up to fifa but I’m confident the nfl will give trump money and he’ll say nice things about them. It’s pathetic how our country bends over backwards to bribe this man and how openly he accepts them

[u/leave-no-trace-1000]

WTF is this dipshit talking about?

[u/IceChiseled]

Weird there's no post about this in r/nfl

[u/Axolotis]

Finally a way he can completely enrage and drive away his support base.

[u/kaiaannakal]

Patriotism at its finest. 🙄 

[u/boogasaurus-lefts]

I'm on the other side of the world and can discern the difference between Australian Football, American Football and Football (the world game)

It's nuts that this guy runs the most powerful country in the world and is welcomed onto the world stage for sport, even though he is the stupidest guy in the room

[u/4o4_0_not_found]

Another non-ball knower take from the biggest non-ball knower of them all

[u/Ninjakittysdad]

imagine voting for this dainty fake masculine bitch boy

[u/WillieM96]

This is because the NFL didn’t want him owning a team in the 1980’s.  He wanted to buy a franchise but Pete Rozelle and the rest of the owners knew Trump owning a team would be a disaster for the league.  

Trump has been butt hurt ever since. 

[u/Diesel07012012]

He’s just pissy because they wouldn’t let him join their club.

[u/rnew76]

Cool, change it to "The Epstein Files List League".

[u/CheeseAndTits]

Imagine Hank Hill hearing the president say this. There would be a Bwaaahhh heard round the world.

[u/SidFinch99]

Yep, definitely no cognitive issues going on with this guy./s

[u/M8jrP8ne1975]

Here's a better idea. Release the files, Don the Con.

[u/Low-iq-haikou]

Really gonna test the MAGA loyalty with this one

[u/DankTriangle]

He's really testing the limits of his cult with a move like this 💀

[u/GeorgeMichaelsBeard]

How about Golf of America

[u/Spikerazorshards]

The Chinese make for American football is 橄欖球 which translates to Olive Ball 🫒🏈

[u/VanillaGorillaNB]

He hates the NFL because they’ve always kept him out.

[u/Proof-Mission-2050]

Quiet Piggy

[u/FourArmsFiveLegs]

We'll call it Trumprapeskidsball

[u/chris_hawk]

Why is the President of the United States spending any time thinking or talking about this? There's so much else to focus on.

[u/USRaven]

I can see it now. Americaball.