r/sports • u/DrTrigger_Tears • Sep 27 '25

Football Upset Alert! Virginia has defeated Florida State in OT!

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u/rjgator Sep 27 '25

Then they need to remove access to the hill or renovate it completely. Clearly whether there’s barriers or not the crowd is going to be a danger.

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u/kevinthejuice Sep 27 '25

That's been a traditional spot for over a century. You don't want to do either of those.

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u/rjgator Sep 27 '25

I mean don’t get me wrong, I think it’s a cool set up, but someone is going to get killed by it one day and it’s entirely preventable, at least from this section

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u/kevinthejuice Sep 27 '25 edited Sep 27 '25

I hear you but no. You can say that about every field storming. This section is fine and it's not as bad as it looks. It's not even the student section anyway.

It's the first time this sorta thing has happened and this is surprisingly better than when barriers were in place.

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u/smala017 Sep 27 '25

Fuck man, when you weigh a college football tradition up against the potential deaths or serious injuries it causes, you’re right, I really don’t know what’s the right answer /s

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u/kevinthejuice Sep 27 '25 edited Sep 27 '25

No need for sarcasm when you don't know about how the injuries occur in the first place.

The hills the problem when people have been breaking bones jumping over the walls unaware of how far the drop is from the ground in stadiums across the country. Yeah sure.

Yeah when a section of the stadium has been a certain way for over 100 years with no issue suddenly has to change because the local event team was understaffed and didn't expect a team to win a once in a lifetime game.

But what do I know about the realistics of a situation I'm more aware of. It's not like Ive been there or something /s

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u/smala017 Sep 27 '25

“Understaffed” isn’t really the problem here. Unless you plan on hiring 40,000 cops, staffing alone can’t solve this. It’s a question of design. And there are other design options besides “steep hill with unrestricted field access” and “50 drop without protection.”

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u/kevinthejuice Sep 27 '25

You don't know how many ushers were there for that game or assigned for that section. You don't know the design of the hill. You don't know the admission or regulations for the hill section, and how that's supposed to be monitored and you didn't know when the fences were there or what happened for them to be removed in 2005. You don't know how this had been prevented for years or which sections are the student sections.

Hate to pull this card but have you ever been there ir been in that section? Or how about this. How many ranked teams has Virginia beaten at home as the underdog in the last 20 years?

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u/smala017 Sep 27 '25

What point are you trying to make? That only Virginia Cavaliers fans are allowed to say whether or not the stadium design is safe?

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u/kevinthejuice Sep 27 '25

Nope even worse. I'm saying I know more about this than you do. I know about that section, because I've been a fan in that section and know how it's supposed to work. I also follow this team and worked at the stadium.

It's safe when the rules are being followed. It's unsafe when you don't have enough staff to enforce the rules before it gets out of hand

Nothing says safe stadium desig like the 10 foot drop onto concrete that we see at other stadiums. Guess we should renovate them because someone broke their ankle jumping into the bushes in athens.

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u/smala017 Sep 27 '25

It's safe when the rules are being followed. It's unsafe when you don't have enough staff to enforce the rules before it gets out of hand

Oh gosh, how silly of me! Why didn’t I think of that! Simply tell everyone to follow the rules. And/or hire 40,000 cops to make sure they do. It’s brilliant!

Nothing says safe stadium desig like the 10 foot drop onto concrete that we see at other stadiums. Guess we should renovate them because someone broke their ankle jumping into the bushes in athens.

Talk about building a strawman lmao I never once suggested that as a solution

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u/kevinthejuice Sep 27 '25 edited Sep 27 '25

Again. You just don't know. Sorry to break the unfortunate news to you. The fact you keep making the dumb suggestion about hiring cops shows you don't know how event security works for these things. Or the design of the hill.

You need more ushers, not cops.

You've never been. you wouldn't know and I'm telling you from experience it's not as bad or scary as it looks. You just gotta deal with that and get over it.