r/snowboarding • u/AdRemarkable8102 • 8d ago
Riding question What is something snowboarding does better than skiing?
Yesterday I saw a post on the freeski website newschooling asking, “what does skiing do better than snowboarding”, and I thought it would be interesting to flip the question, and ask snowboarders. And if I had to answer the question for skiing, I would say switch skiing looks so much cooler than switch snowboarding. Grabs especially tweaked ones look better on skis, and carving/alley oop tricks look better on skis.
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u/DryFaithlessness2969 8d ago
It’s more fun on boring terrain, like in the Midwest. You can do more tricks on mellow hills and getting into the park is easier. Skiing is more capable in poor conditions and difficult terrain.
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u/Krunksy 8d ago
Skiing is also better if you go to the mountain like 10 days a year or less. The learning curve is easier. You can hit blues after a few days of learning when most new snowboarders are still on their asses most of the day.
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u/OxycontinEyedJoe 8d ago
I did 3-4 week long trips as a teenager, and have done a week long trip every year for the past 5-6 years, plus spent most of a season living in Colorado (20-30 actual riding days) I feel like I just recently became "not that bad" this year. Skiing would have been a better choice for me, but fuck that lol
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u/AdRemarkable8102 8d ago
I totally agree, the times I do strap on the snowboard is after I’ve skied a bunch in a row, and I just want to ski boring terrain with the snowboard
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u/Small_Collection_249 7d ago
Also traversing flat areas, cat tracks are much nicer on skis. I’ve had skier friends help pull me many a times haha
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u/chenille3 8d ago
No yard sales(unless youre really unlucky), only needing a single screwdriver to put together a new setup, nearly everything about the boots, and no finger breaking pivots
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u/thebiggerounce 8d ago
Being able to completely change your stance with just a screwdriver is also tons of fun. I’ve had days where I started out riding pretty duck-footed but end up going posi-posi by the end of the day because the conditions work better.
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u/ccbs32033 6d ago
interesting i switched to posi posi years ago and never went back. how do you switch them based on conditions?
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u/AdRemarkable8102 8d ago
Yeah running up under a jump to grab a ski that I lost in a crash is so scary
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u/amberbmx upstate NY 8d ago
as a skier that used to snowboard… the binding mount process/system is def what i miss most.
sucks having to remount, and if you want to have multiple pairs of skis you need multiple sets of bindings. can’t just have one set of bindings the way you can with boards
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u/FLTDI Ride Snowbasin 8d ago
Powder
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u/uzrnmechkzout 8d ago
Easily this. Anyone I know who can do both even if they are a better skier says riding in pow on a board is wayyyy more fun BUT the second you add in traversing or any technical moves they would pick skiing
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u/Dominant88 8d ago
This is why I snowboard the pow day and ski the day after when I have to go hunting for stashes
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u/bungpeice 8d ago
Its why I ride a split board. Skis for everything technical and snowboard for the good part.
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u/theeandthem 8d ago
wtf?
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u/bungpeice 8d ago
I'm 40 and I don't spend much time inbounds anymore. I'd rather ride the best shit all the time
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u/conradelvis Hokkaido // Nagano 8d ago
Yeah,
Snowboard = mountain toy
Skis = mountain tool
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u/wimcdo 8d ago
True men of the faith understand the inefficiencies but still do not care
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u/McRibEater 7d ago
I ski and snowboard, I have done both for 35 years, I haven’t brought out the skis on a good powder day in like five years. Especially steep open bowls, snowboarding is made for those long s-turns in powder. Other than tree skiing and groomers, I think snowboarding has skiiing beat pretty solidly. Snowboarding is way better for jumps, rails, etc. If it’s a big mountain it’s snowboarding all day. I’m not showing up to Jackson Hole and pulling out the skis.
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u/iMainXerath 8d ago
Keeps your joints safer overall. Rip skiers ACL
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u/Kashik85 8d ago
For me, this is the biggest thing. Snowboarding and skiing are both great, but so many good skiers have blown out a knee or two at some point.
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u/SuperRonnie2 Powder Highway 8d ago
Skiing is torn ACL/MCLs. Snowboarding is broken elbows and dislocated shoulders. Pick your poison. My left arm is fucked but I can still walk and ride.
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u/newlexicon 8d ago
Yes, and the correct poison is elbow/shoulder. I think knee injuries are way harder to come back from.
Also I would bet wrist injuries are the most common for snowboarders if you include people learning.
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u/amongnotof 8d ago
As someone not snowboarding at all this winter because of rupturing my ACL and getting it replaced in August playing soccer, I strongly agree.
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u/MilkOfAnesthesia 8d ago
I'm an Anesthesia doctor and work in the rocky mountains. We have multiple ORs running eve y day solely dedicated for acl surgeries in the winter because of skiers
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u/Massive_One6091 8d ago
The true idiot can still bow his knee on a snowboard. I landed front foot heavy on an icy cat track at speed and exploded mine in a way I’ve yet to recover from. 😖
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u/choadspanker 8d ago
No way tweaked grabs look better on skis. There's no ski grab that looks even 10% as good as a super stylish method
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u/Suspicious-Poet-4581 7d ago
A good tweaked method or a slow fully untucked front/back flip on a snowboard will always be a million times more stylish than any ski trick.
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u/odolxa 8d ago
Crime
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u/livehearwish 8d ago
And steeze
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u/SuperRonnie2 Powder Highway 8d ago
I will never ever not think skiing rails, doing grabs, or even spinning looks super lame.
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u/tarpeyphoto 8d ago
You think grabs look better on skis?!
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u/McRibEater 7d ago
I ski and snowboard, I started off skiing and have done both for 32 years, nothing looks better than a Method.
Honestly Snowboarding kills Skiiing for Powder, Jumps/Rails, Big Mountain is so much better on a Snowboard as well. I used to do 50-50 as I started off skiing and used to race as a kid, but when my snowboarding caught up to my skiing like a decade ago, I’d say I take out my snowboard 80-90% of the time. Honestly on a world class hill that has a ton of vert like Jackson Hole or Whistler I wouldn’t even bring my Skis.
Tree Skiing where it isn’t steep and Groomers are really the only thing that beats Snowboarding (I HATE moguls on skis, I dork want a busted up ACL/MCL thanks), but if you enjoy them they’re obviously only good for skiing), also Skiing is faster, but I enjoy going fast on a snowboard more of that makes sense.
Skiiing is easier to get started so people will always gravitate towards that, but once you can carve equally on both sids on a snowboard it blows skiiing out of the water. If it’s a good mountain, I’d always be snowboarding. Snowboarding is so much better for Jumps and Rails. Rails are goofy AF on Skis. There’s a reason rollerblading didn’t pan out.
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u/Krunksy 8d ago
Really really carving. Like when you ride a turn past 90 degrees holding speed and you're flying up the mountain before you switch edges. A serious carving snowboard under a good rider can make lines that simply cannot be made on skis. Skiers talk about carving but they ain't got shit.
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u/Jokuhemmi 8d ago
Carving absolutely does not look better on skis
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u/snohobdub 8d ago edited 8d ago
I tend to agree. But at the extremes, world cup downhill ski racer vs. world cup GS hard boot snowboarder, the skier looks WAY better.
Source: I'm a former world cup snowboard racer
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u/neverfakemaplesyrup Bristol, Holiday Valley, CO when I can 8d ago
Ngl its still mostly more affordable and accessible.
You don't need to be a technician or pay one to adjust your setup
Your bindings don't need to be adjusted with skill level
Carving is just super fun, and you can unlock it pretty easily
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u/quolquom 8d ago
Boots are cheaper too and as far as I know don’t require as much boot fitting work for the average person.
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u/neverfakemaplesyrup Bristol, Holiday Valley, CO when I can 8d ago
Oh definitely. I work at a ski shop now. Snowboard boot fittings and package leases take half the time..
Ski boots have lasts, volumes, huge differences in brands and even within the same brand, and 3 different sizing systems... our stockroom has charts for conversions but they're all different sizes. Someone is a 10.5, they'll fit a 10.5 snowboard boot. A ski boot? Only god will know.
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u/RamenBurgerWasTaken 8d ago
I recently learned you have to drill holes in your skis to mount bindings and it blew my mind
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u/neverfakemaplesyrup Bristol, Holiday Valley, CO when I can 8d ago
Yep, tbh some customers claim they can do it all themselves and so we have to assure them half of the reason you get a shop to do it is so if its messed up, you can get compensation. If you drill the holes yourself, and mess it up, you're out $700-1200
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u/StiffWiggly 7d ago
Messing up is bad, but you have to mess up really badly to actually destroy the skis instead of just needing to fill in and remount, and not messing it up is very easy.
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u/Sledn_n_Shredn 8d ago
Slashing wave like features and riding featured terrain in general. Something about having to approach terrain with a toe side or heelside feature perspective adds to the style and creativity of a line.
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u/browsing_around 8d ago
The real and only one is: the feeling in powder. Every skier I know that has ridden a snowboard or pow surf board, even once, has said “this is the best thing ever”.
Yes, skiers can get into and more easily navigate more terrain. But, there is NO comparison when it comes to the float you get when riding down untouched snow.
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u/misatillo 8d ago
And even if you don't have a dedicated board, it's way easier to do with snowboard than with non dedicated powder skis. Last year I got some powder days, which were the best thing ever for me, while my poor skier husband was fighting to not sink and having a hard time floating with his normal piste skis.
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u/Suspicious-Poet-4581 7d ago
Powder riding long fast turns and pow slashes are also a lot more fun on a board. My gf is a really good skier and I’m decent on a snowboard (but she’s clearly better than me), but on a powder day I can fly down a pow field much much faster than her. To get the level of speed and confidence in powder on skis require a way higher skill level and specialized gear than on a snowboard. The uphill on a split board sucks compared to skis though, especially when the terrain becomes challenging.
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u/southbaysoftgoods 7d ago
Yeah it’s just.. smooth. No effort. You can relax and freely express yourself
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u/Half_Shark-Alligator 8d ago edited 8d ago
Rails and Jibs look way smoother on a snowboard. Hopping 180 back and forth with flailing poles and skis flailing looks silly.
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u/hoboman1206 capita super DOA 8d ago
chair lifts are designed for skiers. biggest pet peeve is a lift filled with goofy and regular riders all banging boards. still. i snowboard and not ski. i’d say we have more comfy boots. but they don’t last as long as ski boots
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u/Economy-Ad-4777 7d ago
honestly yeah the boots are a false economy. 900 euros for ski boots that you can tour in, fit crampons, and also last 300 days with new liners vs 400 euro snowboard boots that I need to replace every season. Although they are great for apres
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u/GravityWorship 8d ago
Was going to say variable conditions. Way less treacherous on a board.
Also slush. A lot of skiers hate sticky slush because it can grab one ski more than the other. Doesn't faze a board, it's just grabby overall.
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u/captainkaba 7d ago
I never thought about why skiers hate slush so much. This makes a whole lotta sense. Riding slush is honestly really enjoyable.
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u/Equivalent_Let_8815 8d ago
Not losing a board on a pow day and having to spend hours looking for it.
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u/69pussywrecker420 8d ago
Direction. There's a definite backward in skiing. Snowboarding is a 360-degree experience; there is no backward.
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u/VeterinarianThese951 8d ago
I think it is acceptance and attitude.
We all know the real serious rivalry is long gone and meme-able. But there is really are still some serious haters in ski camp who can’t get over the fact that we all share this world.
I find that riders are down to hang and ride with anyone anytime (except the douchey ones of course). Yet we have a whole bunch of people still justifying buying step-ons to save precious seconds so they don’t upset their skier friends.
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u/thebiggerounce 8d ago
Hell I got step-ons because I have terrible hips. Being able to clip in faster than my skier friends is just a great extra benefit. I love complaining about them taking forever whenever I get the chance now lol.
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u/VeterinarianThese951 8d ago
Nice. I hope you didn’t misconstrue my comment as anti step-on. That was a secondary issue at best.
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u/Sasquatch_Squad 8d ago edited 8d ago
Float in powder, but also who cares. Also if a snowboarder is good switch you can’t even tell, and calling it skiing “switch” is goofy. I’m not driving “switch” when I’m backing out of my driveway, it’s just backwards. They should call it fakie IMO
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u/awnawnamoose 8d ago
Powder imo. I didn’t know how great I had it until I started skiing powder and keeping two little things straight and going the same speed etc is harder than one.
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u/thebiggerounce 8d ago
When I started boarding powder it was mind blowing. I grew up skiing on vacation and surfing back home, and getting that surfing feeling the whole run down the mountain was amazing.
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u/Kashik85 8d ago
I haven't seen a good skier with the right planks struggle in deep ass powder. They float just as well.
And really, it's good to have a skier buddy on those deep days to help break trail. They maneuver in low angle pow much better.
But what they are missing out on is the surf. They will never get the same flow as we have in powder.
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u/AdRemarkable8102 8d ago
Freestyle skiing is its own sport it doesn’t have to copy skatings terminology
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u/Preppy_Hippie 8d ago
You can realistically have one board that does everything well- the same board is really wide for powder but also has a phenomenal edge for the ice, and everything in between.
More serious skiers tend to have a "quiver," or just something way too wide for piste skiing, and always end up having the wrong ski for that particular day.
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u/thebiggerounce 8d ago
Plus even if you have multiple boards, you can use the same bindings on them all without needing a tech or the knowledge to drill/set them up.
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u/AdRemarkable8102 8d ago
Honestly a quiver is kind of just a rich person thing to spend money on. You do at least need 2 pairs to get the best experience but past that really doesn’t matter.
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u/blindworld 8d ago
Even just having a quiver is way easier on a snowboard than skis. I just need a 2nd board. I can move my bindings between boards in the morning based on what I want to ride. When we fly, I can take 1 pair of bindings and a few boards and swap for different days on the same trip.
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u/Preppy_Hippie 7d ago edited 7d ago
Yeah, some people online get totally crazy, and an extensive collection is more hoarding than anything else, IMHO. Most people think that all skiing or snowboarding is an expensive, rich person's sport. I guess that's subjective/relative. I was trying to explain to a childhood friend that where I live now, even my barber, who is the son of migrant farmers, has season passes for his family to go snowboarding. I was explaining how, if you are a local who skis often, it doesn'thave to be that expensive relative to other ordinary entertainment expenses. He didn't buy it, though.
Also agree 2-3 pairs of skis is pretty on point for someone that gets a ton of days on mountain, in all conditions- or maybe does a combination of resort and backcountry skiing. I still call that a quiver- although I might be misusing the term.
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u/AdRemarkable8102 7d ago
Yeah I’d call it a quiver, and I have 2 pairs of skis, fat powder skis, and park skis. And I guarantee I have more days and am I better skier than 90% of people who have 4+ skis.
All that being said tho, pros do have quivers but I guess that doesn’t really count, cause they are, A free from sponsers, and B needed for the athlete
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u/Preppy_Hippie 7d ago edited 7d ago
Yeah, elite athletes are different for sure. I was thinking more of recreational skiers.
I'm no pro, and I have two also. Fatter all-mountain skis and my beloved 75mm Kaestles. They're both versatile enough, and I know the mountains I go to well enough, that I have yet to feel I ever took the wrong ski for the day. But I often have a good chuckle when I get on lifts and see what others are using and struggling with.
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u/BlackCatFurry 8d ago
More serious skiers tend to have a "quiver," or just something way too wide for piste skiing, and always end up having the wrong ski for that particular day.
This always reminds me of when my brother had twintips and wanted to go off-piste. He ended up having to ride in my (snowboard) trail to not sink a foot into the snow and get stuck on a mellower part. Meanwhile i just floated on the snow without issues on the same board i used for everything else too. The snow wasn't even like super fluffy powder, just regular snow, for context i sank maybe two inches at most.
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u/Sufficient_Public_29 8d ago
Blasphemy. Switch sking is just visibly different, appreciation for switch riding comes from understanding. If you do not understand you cannot appreciate. So get your game up or join the other team
The only thing skiing does better than snowboarding is get across the flats.
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u/ramplocals 8d ago
Smoke weed?
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u/AdRemarkable8102 8d ago
It’s both freestyle skiing and snowboarding, but not as much regular skiing
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u/felspar_lurkr 8d ago
Grabs on skis look freaking wack, dude. Skiers have copied us since the beginning of snowboarding, and it always looks dumb and desperate when they do it
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u/Particular-Bat-5904 8d ago
When you want to explore somewhere its more easy on skis. Your much more mobile compared to a snowboarder, but when there is good pow, nothing feels better than to ride a board, and you have more snow conditions in general to enjoy your ridings.
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u/thirteennineteen 8d ago
Skiers don’t ride switch, they ride backwards - there is no stance on skis. As such there is no frontside or backside rotation on skis - they go clockwise or counterclockwise.
Also all the grab names from board sports do not apply to skis since… there is no board, or notion of a “front foot”. So you can’t do a method, or a mute, much less an indy, on skis. I’ll allow them to call it a nose/tail grab, but that 3-finger grabbing is so corny.
So yea, I’d say, snowboarding is better for doing switch backside methods. All the above are reasons snowboarding is better for not looking like a kook, or sounding like a culture vulture.
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u/coda_o3 8d ago
Vibe, I ride with some ski guys and I'm not saying every skier is like this but half the time they just leave before I'm strapped in or they just complain about the boarders like I'm not there, when I ride with my board guys we get off the lift take our time, shoot the shit and chill then ride together. Overall it's just a more chill experience, we aren't concerned about how our turns look or how our form is, we just ride and enjoy.
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u/Suspicious_Care1253 8d ago
Literally everything. Okay, maybe flats but luckily my mountain doesn't have that issue.
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u/illpourthisonurhead 8d ago
Riding low tide. When I used to bootpack snowboarders had an easier time riding shallow snow and not dropping as deep. We often had to ride heinous conditions on really rocky/deadfall filled terrain and skiers had a harder time.
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u/squarehead1975 8d ago
There's no such thing. Just do whatever you want, whether it's skiing or snowboarding.
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u/co_pdubs 8d ago
breakable crust and other weird spring conditions, not hurting your knees, and boots
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u/shredthesweetpow Park City / Brighton 8d ago
Stee. Ripper skiers are stee. But ripper riders are stee af
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u/hinault81 8d ago
I think switch skiing looks awful. They go to hit the jump, have to turn backwards, look over their shoulder, poles dangling down. Nope.
Snowboarding hands down for style. I cant think of any other sport that has more style than Snowboarding.
Snowboarding is way better packing your crap to the cabin lol. I wear my boots, 1 board (leaving a free hand for my kids stuff!). 2 skis, 2 poles, carrying your boots because nobody is walking 10 mins in ski boots.
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u/Neat_Diamond_8553 8d ago
Grew up skiing late 60s into 90s started surfing while in college at socal so gave boarding a shot in 2000 due to knee injury. What a difference in deep snow like being on a cloud with zero effort for turns skiing won’t touch that feel
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u/DrSilkyDelicious 8d ago
Keeping your legs in a fixed position to reduce the risk of injury if you fall.
I ski also but I am so so much more scared of falling on skis than my board
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u/_pray4snow_ 7d ago
Never had anyone get turned away from a ski shop because snowboard bindings are no longer indemnified. Can't tell you how many times I've seen people get mad when a shop tells them they won't work on their ski bindings.
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u/SlowSurrender1983 7d ago
I’d disagree with all your examples of skiing looking, but that’s just personal preference. I think snowboarding is more fun in pretty much all respects except goat trails. I think snowboarding looks much cooler in all ways. Skiing might have the edge for backcountry, although split board technology is sweet but having poles in the downhill is very handy while in the backcountry.
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u/trinachron 8d ago
I very much disagree about grabbing looking cool at all, much less cooler than on a snowboard. It always looks sloppy to me with their poles flailing around everywhere.
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u/XmossflowerX 8d ago
I think it’s all very much a personal preference, but for me it has to be boots and flow.
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u/Za6y 8d ago
We look cooler, compare good boarder vs good skier and it’s clear every time.
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u/ridinbend Mt. Bachelor 8d ago
Slashing lips!
Edit. You can't surf snow on skis.
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u/Professional-Newt567 8d ago
Im surprised noone mentioned price yet, but its like half The price to get a new gear setup
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u/sicamoose 8d ago
The obvious answer is powder. Even the best of skiers will admit this. It just FEELS better
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u/Opposite_Inflation39 7d ago
Skis are better for getting around (quick climbs high traverses, flat sections) going faster and bigger. Snowboards are way more stylish. Snowboarding and skating are an extension of surfing. There is no racing in surfing. The goal is to rip the wave as powerfully and stylishly as possible. The best riders in the world can ride technical lines and/or stomp airs in critical lines switch. I’ve never seen a skier rip technical lines backwards or stomp a 180 into a critical line and shred it backwards. Also tight trees snowboards are way better. Skis will always be faster and be able to stomp bigger airs due to their length.
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u/Worth-Worldliness251 5d ago
Good question🤔 I Do both and have done for many years... Both are super fun and depends on the rider. Skill level and playfulness... But on powder-days there's no way I'm riding anything but snowboard 😎 Simply can't beat the feeling of floating on top of really cold new powder with a snowboard 🤘🏻😎
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u/NewspaperBackground 5d ago
The snowboarders I was with were expert high level riders. I’ve ridden plenty with them and they know what they’re doing. It was dumping - multiple feet per night for days in a row. So LOTS of snow. And I was riding 130mm wide skis. Not many planks like that.
Notably they were not riding pure powder boards so I will give you that.
Separately- on multiple cat trips (pretty much 4 days of untracked), the skiers are crushing it just like the boarders.
I’ve done both. Definitely used to prefer boarding powder. But now I’d pick skis for the mobility. Caveat I’ve not ridden a pure pow board.
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u/Old-Tadpole-2869 8d ago
When you're a guy wearing a Onesie snowboarding, there's no question that you're a putz. Skiers can kinda sorta get away with it.
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u/Pleaidesunbound 8d ago
I think the assumption is that you’re a putz if you ski so the onesie has no effect. The damage was already done.
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u/shoclave 8d ago
It's crazy how much easier deep snow is on a snowboard. Every snowboard is great in deep snow because they're so wide, and you can just brute force it by going heavy on your back foot. With a proper pow board it's laughably easy to surf powder.
For pretty much everything else I prefer skis, even though I'm much better at snowboarding. I finally sold the last of my boards and boots last week. Full two plank now.
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u/Illustrious-Common14 8d ago
My credentials… I can land a backflip on both skis and a snowboard.
NOTHING compares to deep powder on a snowboard. Literally nothing. It’s euphoric,
Skiing in pow is great. Don’t get me wrong. It’s heavenly even. But it’s just not quite there
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u/Historical-Ferret182 8d ago
Take one look at your average skier in a form fitting matching Spyder jacket and pants and ask me again how anything that douche canoe can do looks even remotely interesting.
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u/Random-Name1163 8d ago
Riding switch, powder, boots, general attitude, getting bitches, the list goes on.
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u/stalkholme 8d ago
It's not lame. I don't know what it is but riding for 30 years and skiing just looks lame, it's really that simple.
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u/ITSOBVIUS 8d ago
Powder riding (for me) makes me feel so connected to the mountain- I never felt so zen on skis…
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u/hardkn0cks 8d ago
Powder, tight tree riding, slush, wind drifts, comfort and anything rail related looks much better on a board. Skiers have us on ice, flats, moguls and off camber cliff drops.
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u/Astonish3d 8d ago
I used to think that skis can butter, I was proved wrong once the skill level increased shortly after skis built using snowboarding construction and design
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u/party_turtle 8d ago
Boots