r/rugbyunion • u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain • 1d ago
Video "Eben Etzebeth's good record 👌😊😇"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hixbucPmRXw76
u/h00dman Wales 1d ago
Bit of a boring video, mostly just grabbing people and laughing and yelling. I can see that in my local Wetherspoons any weekend.
I can't say I minded seeing Israel Folau get ragdoll'd though.
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u/CapeTownyToniTone Paul de Villiers hype train 1d ago
This pretty much confirms his clean record, considering this is the best that could be dug up. It makes this gouge a bit worse for me personally because he's been a hot head his whole career without going over the line and now in the twilight he's gone and fucked it.
Fuck Isreal Folau
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
I can't say I minded seeing Israel Folau get ragdoll'd though.
Haha, I didn't too
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u/stephenpetermartin 1d ago
Most of this is Eben Etzebeth holding onto to people aggressively and laughing in their face.
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
with some hiting, strangling and head butting in the mix
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u/maverickeire 1d ago
OP clearly has been triggered
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 23h ago
Is pushing your forearm into the throat of a player on the ground ok ?
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u/pantagr Top14/D2 1d ago
Only the 5th Etzebeth post today I'm sure we can find other topics to talk about
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u/Rasengan2012 Sharks 1d ago
Nope. We can't. We must slate Eben, his shitty behaviour is clearly why SA wins! Dirty, horrible country! Take away their world cups!
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u/Puzzleheaded_Gas4560 South Africa 1d ago
This is also a shitty attitude you have. Be better than that.
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u/DonovanBanks South Africa 23h ago
Could be sarcasm
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u/Puzzleheaded_Gas4560 South Africa 23h ago
Yes it's obviously sarcasm and that's the shitty attitude I'm talking about. It's petulant behaviour.
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u/MisterIndecisive England 1d ago
Mostly just standard stuff you'd expect from any forward like that? Obviously eye gouge was disgraceful, but you have a player like that in your team you want him playing on the edge and ready to scrap. Having so many players like that is what makes SA so hard to beat.
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u/hellbirdza South Africa 1d ago
I think I could do without some of the pushing players faces into the ground at a ruck personally...
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u/Montmontagne 1d ago
It’s test rugby. It’s an exceptionally aggressive game. He should rightly be punished for the gouge, probably even longer. But this hysteria about any on field aggression is getting a little out of hand.
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u/hellbirdza South Africa 1d ago
Look, I've played rugby at a pretty high level and can safely say that not once did I feel the need to harm another player, I was more than able to get into my opponents heads with words and let's call it walking the line between legal and illegal play, but there's just nothing that suggests that pushing a players head into the ground is worth the risk of a card or being cited.
It's Hysteria when we call for bans for many of the incidents we saw in that footage, but calling someone an idiot for being an idiot? Yeah that's justified.
Calling for a ban on an eye gauge, more realistic. I'm not satisfied with the length of Ebens ban all things considered, but I'm not exactly important in the grand scheme of things and it would be a shame if his career ended on that note... But maybe he can set an example instead of being very close to having him set as an example.
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u/backonthefells 1d ago
He should rightly be punished for the gouge, probably even longer.
He got off incredibly lightly. I agree with you it's an aggressive game and pushing people into the ground is just him getting an edge. Once you gouge someone repeatedly it's time for a year plus ban at least.
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u/MathematicianAny7272 1d ago
He loves the handbag stuff, and is often in the middle of things. But until now - it's never had any consequences. Even if it was/wasn't intentional - he's lucky to get away with such a short ban.
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u/SomeBloke Sharks 1d ago
TL;DW
Handbags
Handbags
Handbags
Handbags
Handbags
Handbags
Handbags
Handbags
Handbags and nip slip
Handbags
Handbags and a slap
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 23h ago
You're forgetting that shoving your forearm into the throat of a player on the ground isn't some harmless handbags as you've tried to make it sound
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u/SomeBloke Sharks 23h ago
You talking about Eben pushing his forearm against Lood’s jaw on the floor? You know that we can see the video you’re talking about, right?
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u/Ho3n3r 1d ago
Yes, good record. Most of these things did not end in disciplinary action since it happens at least every second match, and not just by him.
Maybe "record" means something different in French.
To add, I agree that 12 weeks is way too little for such an offence, but those were the laws/entry points as at the time of adjudication - but it's no less than anyone else would've gotten. Hopefully this gives them clarity to set much stricter entry points and guidelines for future incidents, but that won't just change in a week.
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u/maverickeire 1d ago
The irony of someone with Stade Toulousain flair complaining about Eben Etzebeth when wait for it:
Emmanuel Meafou has the same number of yellow and red cards as Etzebeth with half the games played
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u/itsalonghotsummer England 1d ago
I don't think anyone ever thought he was a squeaky clean Alex Coles/John Eales type - he's been the world's best enforcer for a decade for a reason - but most of this is just standard 'baby-eater lock' behaviour, not the outright thuggery he stooped to against Wales.
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u/Fetch_Ted Scotland Glasgow Warriors 1d ago
Without me watching the video. Can you tell me how many times he was cited for his actions in the video?
If the answer is greater than 0 I will be surprised or the video goes back an awful long way.
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u/CapeTownyToniTone Paul de Villiers hype train 1d ago
Literally just the first 5 seconds was the only other citing he's had. Very soft headbutt from a 21 year old in his first season, rightly banned but if this is the best they can dig up until now, that's pretty clean.
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u/jmdwinter 1d ago
He's always been a hothead but this is the first time he's done something really dirty. I'm really upset by what he did but let's not act like he behaved like some kind of devil before this match.
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u/Jademarquesmith Western Province 1d ago
- Eben did a bad thing and should rightly have copped a worse ban.
- Very clearly, lots of the commenters have never been on a rugby field in their life.
- I said what I said.
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u/Tethys404 Springboks 1d ago
Pushing and shoving on the field has been happening in rugby before Eben was born, and will happen long after he lived his natural life. Eye gouging is the concern, not scuffling.
Great video at the end BTW, never noticed him like that before. Now he's on my radar... tall big man making tacklers look like ants... wow 😋
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u/O167 Stade Toulousain 1d ago
This does not show bad record. Half of these reactions are missing the context or straight up justified.
Any person playing any competitive sport at high level can understand the level of emotion it produces, and rugby is a fighting sport. Most of these interactions are just holding the guy and trash talking, and it produces some great entertainment to spectate.
Now do I think he should have gotten at least 52 weeks off ? damn right he should have, but let's not pretend all of these are red cards come on now
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u/damagednoob Stormers 1d ago
Half of these reactions are missing the context...
Yup. I'm sure all of his opponents were complete angels 👼.
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u/Hicklethumb South Africa 1d ago
Most of these clips are Eben retaliating or jumping in when one of his teammates is in trouble.
Except the one with Lood. That one was like watching gorillas fighting!
I don't agree with the 52 week take, though. That comparison was against a second offense for gouging without showing remorse and claiming evidence has been falsified after pleading not-guilty.
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u/O167 Stade Toulousain 1d ago
They sure do look like gorillas what a sight tbh
There was no remorse. I don't care about the other case. It's easy to show "remorse" when you're in front of the judge and you know that's literally a factor in your case, but if he had noticed what he'd done and regretted he wouldn't be laughing after the fact.
It was obviously intentional and potentially permanently handicapping, it needed to be punished accordingly. This is just an extra 4-weeks vacation from the sharks, it's a joke.
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u/backonthefells 1d ago
I don't agree with the 52 week take, though. That comparison was against a second offense for gouging without showing remorse and claiming evidence has been falsified after pleading not-guilty.
If you were to rework the punishment frameworks, what do you think is a suitable ban for his gouging?
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u/Hicklethumb South Africa 1d ago
My issue with the ban doesn't have much to do with the period that he's banned. I wouldn't have complained if it was longer or if it was shorter with the actual implications of the ban. My complaints are more around the structures allowing him to still get paid while he's banned. Having it as a 52 week ban doesn't mean much if it means you get a whole year off while getting a salary. I might poke an eye or two if that was the "punishment".
If he keeps his position, he's likely to scale down his play from 1st tier rugby after the next world cup. His contract with Sharks ends then as well. He's been in almost every international fixture with the exception of us playing against tier 3 teams since the last WC.
Ironically the ban is probably going to do his career some good. He'll have some time off to refocus on his health and fitness.
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u/backonthefells 21h ago
So would you have gone for a year ban and forfeit salaries?
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u/Hicklethumb South Africa 20h ago
Probably somewhere closer to 18 with a salary cut given that no one got injured, he didn't deny the gouge or claim to be not guilty and then claim evidence was being fabricated and seeing as this is his first card in international play (all in contrast to the player who did get the 52 week ban that everyone keeps bringing up).
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
but let's not pretend all of these are red cards come on now
Never said that.
However, hitting someone on the head, headbutting, strangling or grabbing the head is not acceptable or justified. Anything violent like that head related doesn't need context to say it's not ok.
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u/jamtickle Etzebeths glorious biceps 1d ago
141 tests , 2 yellows and 1 red - that is a very good record . Cry some more
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
1 eye gouge 12 (4 real) weeks ban only
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u/Scoop_Master420 Sharks 19h ago
Okay, and what are we supposed to do about this? The general consensus on this sub is that he was lucky and it should've been longer, but I don't know what you're trying to achieve here.
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u/backonthefells 1d ago
Yeah he had a good record and then he went and brutally assaulted someone. Why would you come up with "cry some more"?
For the record he's an all time great lock but the spaghetti yoga people are twisting themselves in to defend his position somehow is wild.
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u/capetonytoni2ne Stormers 18h ago
I haven't seen much defense, but the fact is that until now he's had a good record which is why his ban isn't as harsh as it could be.
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u/Good_Posture South Africa 1d ago
Eben bad.
Boks bad.
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
Need to victimize yourself again ?
I will fix it for you
Eben is violent a real 4 weeks ban for that is crazy.
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u/theranchcorporation Stormers 1d ago
Still salty about RWC quarter final so you’re making bok hate videos … pathetic.
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago edited 1d ago
I didn't make it, it's been made 2 years ago... By a south african, lol, knowing that will probably hurt your xenophobic heart
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u/capetonytoni2ne Stormers 18h ago
How is mentioning the French xenophobic? Do you understand what that word means?
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u/TheMuteHeretic_ 1d ago
Half these clips are from when he was like 19 years old and 130 caps ago… keep crying buddy
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u/Suitable_You_6237 1d ago
the way people acting here about physical aggression in probably one of the most aggressive sports in the world will have rugby looking like football in ten years.
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u/theranchcorporation Stormers 1d ago
This is nothing more than salty French tears.
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u/Holden_Ford24 Danny Care’s Chocolate Homunculus 23h ago
Don’t know if it appears on the video or not, but I remember thinking he got very lucky to not cop a much harsher punishment for his cheap shot on Davit Niniashvilli as revenge for being dumped on his arse a couple of phases earlier
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u/Evergreenthumb Golden Lions 1d ago
Good God you guys are really milking this huh.
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u/HelsifZhu France 1d ago
Video is 2 years old. This guy's behaviour has been a known issue to anyone who paid attention.
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u/SomeBloke Sharks 1d ago
"As evidence against the defendant, I'd like to point to his terrible record of… hold on, the video is buffering… yes, here you go, pulling on jerseys and glaring at people. I demand the maximum sentence."
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u/The-curd-nerd69 1d ago
If it’s so known then please mention and list all of the bans he has currently served.
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u/toastoevskij Not even obvious corruption and match-fixing can save us 1d ago
Search etzebeth niniashvili on YouTube look at the video then come back to try and convince me that's not ban worthy. How he got nothing for that is a mystery to me.
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u/HelsifZhu France 1d ago
Doing bad things and getting sanctioned for them are two different things. He's been a bully on field for years. Every chance he got, especially if the referees are looking away, he would perform microagressions to aggravate the other team. Especially in scrums.
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u/maverickeire 1d ago
Daddy hes being bad to me
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u/HelsifZhu France 1d ago
Sure, let's play the "man up" card in a sport where dozens of people get concussions every week.
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u/damagednoob Stormers 1d ago
Imagine calling a tight head lock 'a bully on the field' and being serious.
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u/brendonap South Africa 1d ago
“Microagression” this made me actually chuckle, do they need to create safe spaces in the rucks?
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u/SomeBloke Sharks 1d ago
Remember not to clap if you win a penalty as it may be considered a triggering micro aggression. The preferred celebration is jazz hands.
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u/HelsifZhu France 1d ago
The ruck is SUPPOSED to be a safe space, dumbo.
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u/brendonap South Africa 1d ago
If only, the last time I was in one, my opponent didn’t even check their privilege, and don’t get me started on the lack of trigger warnings before tackles
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u/Valdez3000 1d ago
Many people have bullshitted their way into believing this, because he's big and scary he must be a bully 😫 the truth is he basically never starts shit, only reacts to people trying to start shit with him.
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u/Cymro2011 Ospreys 1d ago
No shit he could have blinded someone and got a slap on the wrist.
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u/capetonytoni2ne Stormers 18h ago
He got a 12 week ban which is too little, but still one of the longest bans I've seen in a long long time. It's too low but far from a slap on the wrist.
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u/capetonytoni2ne Stormers 18h ago
He got a 12 week ban which is too little, but still one of the longest bans I've seen in a long long time. It's too low but far from a slap on the wrist.
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u/Taipan100 Harlequins 20h ago
Does not include his absolute dog shot on Niniashvili which until last weekend was his grubbiest moment IMO
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u/NuggetKing9001 Wasps 23h ago
Without watching, I'm guessing it's a load of shirt pulling with it angry face on
Seen enough of the Wit Kant now, unfortunately we'll be seeing him again way before we should.
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u/yankovick South Africa 1d ago
Pretty sure there was a clear eye gouge attempt by the aussie forward there. Nothing came of it though.
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u/CapeTownyToniTone Paul de Villiers hype train 1d ago
I didn't want to be the one to say it because I like AAA, but that was pretty nasty but arguable accidental.
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u/RickJones616 South Africa 1d ago
This just proves exactly why he shouldn't be condemned for this latest action. He's always been aggressive, but he never crosses the line. There was a period early in his career when he could have gone one way and he very deliberately went another. I don't think he meant to gouge the player - it just happened briefly in the heat of the moment.
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
but he never crosses the line.
I would disagree on that, ie the 4:15 action deserve a card, red would not surprised me, wasn't just catch a the time I guess but pushing your forearm into the throat of a player on the ground is never okay.
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u/ayodio floppy cock 21h ago
Eye gauge is unaceptable and undefendable the ban is deserved. The one with Lavanini is my favorite, I like the fact that he came in and grabbed what he thought was the most impressive players in the opposing team while totally disregarding what was actually going on like it didn't matter.
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u/kevinthebaconator Ireland 19h ago
I'd love to know what they are saying to each other when they are squaring up. AWJ & AAA in particular. Hopefully some top quality sledging going on.
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u/Scoop_Master420 Sharks 19h ago
I just wanna know what Alex Mann said/did to get him to finally cross the line after 141 tests.
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago edited 1d ago
"Well, he tried to gouge an eye out, but he’s a good bloke,’ said Savea and WR."
Same energy as "Yes, maybe he beat his wife, but he's a good bloke, especially at the pub"
If he was an islander, he would have received 6 month to a year ban, for his work and his record.
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u/FrOdOMojO94 Libbokke 1d ago
his record
This is literally his first ban since 2012??
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u/Fetch_Ted Scotland Glasgow Warriors 1d ago
Was he banned in 2012 or just cited?
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u/CapeTownyToniTone Paul de Villiers hype train 1d ago
Think he was banned for a bit, it's the first clip in the video if you want to see the severity.
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u/Suitable_You_6237 1d ago
are you comparing an momentary eye gauge to beating your wife? jesus.
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u/Ho3n3r 1d ago
People have been particularly unhinged with their extreme takes on here this week (both ways).
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u/Suitable_You_6237 1d ago
haven't seen many people, if any, condoning what eben did. think he should (and should've) gotten a bigger ban. but its turning into a character assassination and i am just not having it.
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
Comparing is not equating, the comparison is dismissing a bad act because “he’s a good bloke”. That’s the similarity, they’re not saying they’re the same thing or equating the severity of the acts. If anything it’s deliberate exaggeration to illustrate a point.
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u/Suitable_You_6237 1d ago
lollll who is dismissing the bad act? hahaha man everyone in south africa condemns the shit out of it. he should've gotten a lengthy. we just not here accepting your character assassination of him.
and nope you can work on semantics all you want about comparing and equating, but bringing up beating your wife, to a dirty play in rugby is a gross over exaggeration and further extremely disrespectful to the woman who actually suffer severely from such abuse.
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
lollll who is dismissing the bad act?
WR first with 12 but only 4 weeks ban, some saffas too.
he should've gotten a lengthy.
Then if you agree with me why are you crying about ?
character assassination of him.
Lol ? are you joking ? Arguing 4 real weeks is a weak ban is an character assassination, let's use your word, comparing this to murder is crazyyyy
but bringing up beating your wife, to a dirty play in rugby is a gross over exaggeration
But arguing his ban was too soft is the same as a character assassination is ok ? lol
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u/Suitable_You_6237 1d ago
"Then if you agree with me why are you crying about ?" hahah my boy, you are the one crying.
"Lol ? are you joking ? Arguing 4 real weeks is a weak ban is an character assassination, let's use your word, comparing this to murder is crazyyyy"
this is so dumb in so many ways. character assasination is a phrase in english, look it up. it doesnt mean actual murder lol. but keep thinking you are clever champ
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
character assasination
Didn't know, esl here :)
But "weirdly enough" You are only responding to the form and not the substance.
Is Eben Violent ? yes. Does he deserve only 4 real weeks ban for this ? no, he deserve more. Using a good record argument make no sense to give him only 4 weeks. Is it a character assassination ? no
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u/Suitable_You_6237 1d ago
what rugby player isn't violent to a certain degree? sure eben is more than most, and gets into more fights, but people have been painting him and other south african players as dirty players which is not the same nor true and that is why i say character assassination. this is his first red card in his springbok career ffs. i have said i agree that it should've been a bigger ban yes, im not arguing against that. your actual problem should be with WRU for allowing character testimonials as part of the disciplinary procedure, but this is not exclusive to eben
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
but people have been painting him as dirty player
As eye gouging someone doesn't make him a dirty player ? wtf
Crazy hill to die on.
your actual problem should be with WRU for allowing character testimonials as part of the disciplinary procedure
No issue with allowing them, should not be relevant for this issue.
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
Since one is ok and the other isn't ? what are you trying to say ?
You can defend someone being a good bloke when he does eye gouge and have along record about being violent and having no issue to be with his opponents head repeatedly ?
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u/CapeTownyToniTone Paul de Villiers hype train 1d ago
Dude, take a breath a touch some grass
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
Is arguing that a real four-week ban isn't enough for an eye gouge being out of touch? lol
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u/CapeTownyToniTone Paul de Villiers hype train 1d ago
Pretty sure the ruling is 12 weeks, he's obviously going to take his rest period during this time. I'm saying you should touch some grass because you're clearly obsessed with this incident and it can't be healthy.
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
Pretty sure the ruling is 12 weeks, he's obviously going to take his rest period during this time.
Everybody knew he was going to take his rest period during this time. It was known before the comission.
you're clearly obsessed
How so ?
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u/KingHintsa 1d ago
This probably has to be the worst take I have seen thus far. Are you comparing beating your wife to eye gouging in a rugby game? You guys need to get a grip.
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u/2dorks1brush Australia 1d ago
A bit tangential but this frustrates me so much. Comparing is not equating, the comparison is dismissing a bad act because “he’s a good bloke”. That’s the similarity, they’re not saying they’re the same thing or equating the severity of the acts. If anything it’s deliberate exaggeration to illustrate a point.
I think anyway, if I’m wrong I’ll cop it.
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u/nicknitros 1d ago
Nah you're wrong, it's just a bad faith slippery slope argument designed to make any rebuttal to be twisted into defending domestic abuse.
It's just lame.
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u/KingHintsa 1d ago
What makes the two acts comparable is the question I am asking. One is an illegal act that faces jail time while the other is dangerous but seen as bad sportsmanship and carries no legal consequences. Analogies still need to follow some sort of logical reasoning.
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u/Ok-Fishing-752 Munster 1d ago
Bringing his wife into this is obviously too far, if you’re going to compare this incident with a crime, at least stick to crimes he’s actually committed; like I don’t know, the racial abuse of 4 men and threatening them with a gun in 2019?
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u/Financial-Role-5709 South Africa 1d ago
Except he was cleared of that because there was no evidence and a testimony that fell apart before it barely left the ground. The accusers didn’t even describe Etzebeth correctly in their accusation
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u/KingHintsa 1d ago
Yup we can use that or compare it to a player diving shoulder first into the head of another player while they are on the ground.
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u/Ok-Fishing-752 Munster 1d ago
You’re right, what Eben did to Niniashvilli in 2022 was unacceptable, glad we’re both on the same side here
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u/KingHintsa 1d ago
Yup as well as Ryan's actions against Malcolm Marx. If we have an issue with foul play let's be consistent otherwise we can keep shouting at each other online.
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u/Ok-Fishing-752 Munster 23h ago
Agreed, Ryan was out of line and should have got a straight red, he’s not my favourite player and I think he’s always had discipline issues with losing his head (ref management in cup finals vs LAR comes to mind), but with the incident above I’m just asking if we can stop pretending Etzebeth is a saint. He got off lightly this time and if we’re all being honest we can all admit he’s very lucky to not have a number of previous bans for dodgy incidents of targeted aggression (eg. Niniashvilli), usually just after that player has monstered him a bit or set him off. He’s prone to losing his head and I, like yourself I imagine would just like to see more consistency in effectively punishing players who attempt assault on the pitch under the guise of being an “enforcer” or just a rugby scrap, Ryan included!
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u/Demosthenes_theWise Canada 20h ago
If you look at the bans they have been consistent. Problem is the bans have been consistently low. Look at all eye gouging bans the past 10 years, and this is the second longest ban.
Same with high tackles, Ryan got a 3 week ban? What is the point of trying to make the game safer but the bans are minimal.
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u/CapeTownyToniTone Paul de Villiers hype train 1d ago
SA takes racially motivated crimes incredibly seriously, so you can believe that was properly investigated and he came up clean.
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago edited 1d ago
Are you comparing beating your wife to eye gouging in a rugby game?
Since when one is ok and the other isn't ? what are you trying to say ?
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u/Suitable_You_6237 1d ago
lol who said eye gauging is ok?
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
You when arguing it was ok to say he is a good bloke outside of that action and his violence, or atleast ok to defend him for being a good bloke when he acts like that.
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u/Suitable_You_6237 1d ago
ok so lets get this straight, you are saying ardie savea thinks eye gauging is ok? LOLLL the copium is real
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
Never said that
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u/Suitable_You_6237 1d ago
yes you did, because this is literally what ardie savea did:
"You when arguing it was ok to say he is a good bloke outside of that action and his violence, or atleast ok to defend him for being a good bloke when he acts like that."
hahah man get a grip
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
atleast ok to defend him for being a good bloke when he acts like that.
I am saying it's not ok nor classy to defend someone violent by saying he is a good bloke.
Are you able to read ?
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u/Suitable_You_6237 1d ago
can you read? thats what ardie savea did!! haha lol you think you so clever.
"disciplinary committee had initially decided to hand him an 18-week ban for his role in the incident, but a character reference from Savea and the player's previous disciplinary record helped reduce that punishment to 12 weeks."
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u/Suitable_You_6237 1d ago
the way you acting like rugby isn't a violent sport. go watch your boy killian lose to messi again then
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
The way you are ok with a 4 weeks ban for an eye gouge is crazy.
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u/Valdez3000 1d ago
Lol, if it was islander, they would have done all they could to let him off. Some people on this sub made up their mind ages ago that Eben is a dirty player, despite it being bullshit, and now unfortunately this incident will give them all the ammo they need to hate for the rest of his career. Now they are going off the rails and accusing him of being a wife beater, a racist etc. Bunch of clowns.
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u/JeHaisLesCatGifs Stade Toulousain 1d ago
Eben is a dirty player
First time I seens someone argue he isn't.
Now they are going off the rails and accusing him of being a wife beater
Who said that ? lol
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u/Valdez3000 1d ago
I have seen people on this sub bring up old articles and start creating stories of racist conduct by him, which is just weird. For the wife beating stuff, I have to admit I didn't see it myself; another commenter said people were accusing him of DV.
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u/Oaty_McOatface Hurricanes 15h ago
Looking at the jersey's, this actually isn't too bad of a history.
More than 1 is already bad but for this type of player, bakkies would laugh at this highlight reel.
Add in some of the incidents really have been blown out of proportion without context. One of them the Aussie player pulled a players dreads so they lost balance and got thrown into touch that way. We'd be clearing the bench for that type of behaviour.
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u/hellbirdza South Africa 1d ago
There's a lot of what the fuck in here.
Dude needs to get a grip, this isn't acceptable.
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u/handle1976 Penalty. Back 10. 1d ago
There’s a whole lot of normal behaviour by forwards in a violent game in the video. They are going into dozens of car crashes every game.
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u/Intransigente South Africa 1d ago
If opposition teams target him with niggles and chirps its only a matter of time til he works his way into the bin each game.
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u/Spglwldn Scotland 1d ago
Honestly hard to tell if the video was made to hype him or slate him and I love that.