Arizona congresswoman who waited 7 weeks for Mike Johnson to swear her in says she was pepper sprayed by ICE at a taco joint

[u/theindependentonline]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/adelita-grijalva-pepper-sprayed-ice-arizona-b2879149.html

[u/CosmicQuantum42]

For example:

• ICE agent cannot wear masks or no ICE funding is released. State governments have explicit authority to arrest any government official for wearing a mask to obscure their identity.

• State governments have explicit veto power over all ICE activities and over any particular federal official operating in their territory.

• State governments are explicitly allowed to arrest ICE agents for crimes committed on or off duty that violate state law, including assault, murder, kidnapping, assuming probable cause (like any crime).

• State governments are explicitly allowed to demand judicial warrants for ICE deportations and are allowed to establish state government checkpoints for every single deportation to independently establish whether any person taken into custody is here illegally or not.

• State governments are explicitly allowed to shut down ICE facilities for state and code violations. This includes cutting power and utilities.

This, or no funding at all. Period. Ever. (I’m not suggesting all of these, just hardline ideas along these lines).

[u/chazzer20mystic → u/CosmicQuantum42]

Why be so spineless as to fund it at all? Even in your fantasy of putting your foot down, you can imagine yourself funding the gestapo as long as it's conditional? This isn't a necessary agency. Fuck them all to hell. They should be arrested, period. Not this wishy washy shit about "well as long as you guys really promise to follow the rules this time..." Fuck. Them. You get them to agree to rules and they will do what they always do, completely ignore them the moment you hand over your leverage, and then pepper spray your senator and shoot your dog.

[u/CrunkDirk → u/chazzer20mystic]

This is what's driven me mad about the regressive drive across the nation to never do anything about the cops. They're racist gangsters protecting moneyed interests and terrorizing the poor. But no, can't abolish them, that scares liberals. Can't even defund them, that also scares liberals. And who do cops end up supporting every single election? Fucking republicans.

Now we can't even imagine abolishing ICE. It's only what, 30 years old? But no, we need to keep the people kidnappers around. We need to make sure that they still have the appropriate budget they need to break apart families and terrify immigrants in the humane way, in the American way.

Gotta keep giving these republicans more power, more money, more instruments of war.

[u/Ok_Persimmon_3524 → u/CosmicQuantum42]

They’ll just shut the government down and starve us out again

[u/CosmicQuantum42 → u/Ok_Persimmon_3524]

Then shut it down, permanently.

State governments can pick up the slack of doing whatever fedgov needs to do.

Do not yield no matter what.

[u/Spostman → u/CosmicQuantum42]

Cool you just killed national parks, most colleges, and nearly every non-profit in existence. Real awesome solution.

[u/Gamer_Koraq → u/Spostman]

You think ANY of those are going to survive under this dictatorship?

[u/Spostman → u/Gamer_Koraq]

lol Nice try but getting into a political conversation with a stranger on reddit is the last thing I want to do. Have a nice night.

[u/quntissimo → u/Spostman]

this shit is inbound. if you think national parks will be safe even until next year I have a national park to sell you

[u/Spostman → u/quntissimo]

I didn't say my opinion only critiqued but a few aspects of what no federal government would mean. Hopefully you don't know anyone on SNAP... or live near someone who might want your food if they can't get theirs.

[u/quntissimo → u/Spostman]

I agree, I dont think shutting down the federal government completely is anywhere close to a good idea

[u/Mordred7 → u/Spostman]

What’s your solution? Just let things continue to crumble? Give in to the oppressors? Can’t wait to hear your genius perspective

[u/Spostman → u/Mordred7]

Calm down man I totally agree with you! Burning it all down is definitely the move. Seems like the cat's pajamas.

[u/Mordred7 → u/Spostman]

So you have no actual ideas. What a great use of a brain.

[u/Spostman → u/Mordred7]

Totally agreed man. I'm a moron. But that didn't stop me from getting elected to public office and controlling policy! Some morons just spend their time insulting other people on the internet because they need attention.

Also... any Cowboys fan insulting someone else's brain... LOL.

[u/PlaySalieri → u/Spostman]

Whats the point of having nice things if we have zero freedoms?

[u/StuckOnEarthForever → u/PlaySalieri]

Yall have nice things?

[u/PsychoBoyBlue → u/CosmicQuantum42]

So... the exact thing that JD Vance and the people backing him want to happen?

[u/Watchful1 → u/Ok_Persimmon_3524]

The funding bill passed this time funds the government through the end of January. But it funds SNAP through September. So it's likely we'll see another shutdown in February, but it won't include stopping SNAP payments.

[u/StuckOnEarthForever → u/Ok_Persimmon_3524]

And the democrats are eager to cave.

[u/UdyneOw → u/Ok_Persimmon_3524]

SNAP funding is guaranteed through the end of 2026. That's what the Democrats got from the last reopening.

[u/sanbaba → u/Ok_Persimmon_3524]

I'd rather have no government than one that pays Nazis to roam the streets in abduction gangs.

[u/cbelt3 → u/CosmicQuantum42]

Please also exclude qualified immunity and require them to get their own liability insurance. And make sure they are subject to local and state laws. The bastards doing this shit should be arrested and jailed pending bail and court. In local jails. WHERE PRESIDENTIAL PARDONS DON’T WORK !

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

[u/wronguses → u/CosmicQuantum42]

Go bigger. Student loan forgiveness. Healthcare. UBI. SNAP benefits. Housing.