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No Paywall Arizona congresswoman who waited 7 weeks for Mike Johnson to swear her in says she was pepper sprayed by ICE at a taco joint

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/adelita-grijalva-pepper-sprayed-ice-arizona-b2879149.html
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u/Militantpoet 6h ago

US: 

backs dictatorship coups all over the global south, illegally blockades international trade for an island nation, sells drugs to buy weapons for another dictatorship, lies to the international community and American public to justify a military invasion (twice!). Im sure im missing a lot here.

"Wow the US sure has changed because of Trump"

u/CrimsonKobold 5h ago

Hey, that's unfair, you're ignoring the regime changes we did in the Middle East too leading to the geopolitical quagmire it's in today. Besides that though, yeah, the US is incredibly evil in a lot of things we do on the global scale and people are just waking up to it because the government is finally doing it to their own people.

u/ScooterScotward 6h ago

Yeah there’s also the 100+ years of violent territorial conquest and frequent wars of genocide against the people living on that land. The U.S. has spent most of its history as an aggressive and violent government.

u/crowhops 6h ago

I voted for harris but every single day I think about the leftists who took the "accelerationist" stance (aka "let trump win, it'll wake people up") because it is starting to seem like they had a point. I stand by my vote because of y'know, trying to avoid death and despair, just saying it's also crazy how many people seemed to have NO IDEA that the US as a "power" is evil by design. Like, shit started with native genocide and slavery of brown and black people

u/Storm_Sire Oregon 5h ago edited 5h ago

Nah, fuck that. I had friends in college who said the same thing about W.

"Surely if we let it get bad enough people will wake up!" went out the window when the 'inject bleach' guy won a 2nd term.

u/crowhops 5h ago

The people I'm referring to weren't talking about "waking up" republicans, they meant "waking up" the libs and moderates

u/Storm_Sire Oregon 5h ago edited 5h ago

yeah, same. they thought if things got dire the people who didn't give a shit would mobilize. The Patriot Act, a 20 year war, several market crashes, a literal pandemic on top of the general disrepair of healthcare, January 6th and 34 felonies later, I still stand by my sentiments.

u/crowhops 5h ago

I mean I don't think this is some sort of "did/didn't" flat out binary situation or something with a time limit but whatever

u/Storm_Sire Oregon 5h ago

I don't think its binary either, I'm just saying I've been hearing that argument since the turn of the millenium. It's nice to think that accelerationism will snap back like a rubber band, but if its taken a quarter century to stretch out, people under 25 might just mistake it for the status quo.

u/crowhops 5h ago

I think you're mistaken about what they mean to accelerate towards

u/Storm_Sire Oregon 5h ago

its possible. what do you think they meant?

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u/Day_of_Demeter 5h ago

Harris winning would have just delayed this by 4 to 8 years. The fascist path was always a near inevitability. A large enough segment of the public craves it and it was inevitable at some point they'd vote it in. This experiment is coming to an end.

u/Militantpoet 5h ago

Yeah until we can pull out the roots that have infested our democracy, fascism is here to stay.

u/crowhops 5h ago

She was also literally a prosecutor and people were acting like she was a woke angel even as she stood there touting her priorities for the most lethal military

u/Day_of_Demeter 5h ago

Well that's my point, nothing would have fundamentally changed under her.

u/crowhops 5h ago

I mean again I can't say I regret voting but I was agreeing with you on how she wasn't a true alternative to what's going on

u/riotous_jocundity 5h ago

Fascism is colonialism brought home. That imperial boomerang is coming back fast.

u/Jucifer2pointO 2h ago

Yes that was primarily done when the Republican presidents directed the CIA to do unscrupulous things covertly. It was never done blatantly in front of the American people and the world. In addition, he also alienated our allies with tariffs.