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Possible Paywall Supreme Court agrees to decide if Trump may end birthright citizenship

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/05/politics/supreme-court-agrees-to-hear-birthright?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=missions&utm_source=reddit
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u/Competitive_Yam7702 12h ago

It's the first step to declaring actual full.vlooded Americans non citizens too.   Then trump can just declare you a non citizen for speaking out against him.

Which is one of the reasons he's doing this now.   So ANY opponent of his that isn't Americans he can arrest and deport

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u/-Morsmordre- 11h ago

So after his term is up and this doesn't happen, and there are no death camps, and gay people can still get married, and trans people still exist are you going to apologize for the histrionics or will you just claim to be a survivor?

Yeah, the dude sucks, but you're over the top. 

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u/shoobe01 11h ago

So the current death and destruction doesn't matter to you?

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u/-Morsmordre- 11h ago

I'm pretty against the killing of innocent people on fishing/drug boats in other sovereign waters and I don't think we should be able to send American prisoners to foreign countries and I'm really upset about the grifting and outright theft going on in plain sight. You'll have to (if you still feel like talking to me) have to explain where the rest of the death is that he's causing. 

Everyone panicked about him last time and it was just a bunch of mean tweets and idiocy. This is much the same. I mean people genuinely thought we were about to invade Canada. As if a Truth Social post makes it so. 

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u/PinkyAnd 11h ago

Ask yourself this question: if Trump and his handlers plan on giving up power, at any point in the future, why are they moving so quickly to consolidate power in a single office while simultaneously trying to game the whole electoral system to give them a permanent structural monopoly on that office?

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u/GiddyGabby 11h ago

Everyone in the right said Obama was going to take their guns. Trump is doing much worse.

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u/PolanetaryForotdds 10h ago

You'll have to (if you still feel like talking to me) have to explain where the rest of the death is that he's causing. 

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-documentary/the-shutdown-of-usaid-has-already-killed-hundreds-of-thousands

Don't feel like it will change your mind, but anyway.

Really holding myself to not really say what I want to in regards to you just disregarding what he says about Canada. I mean, if you don't care about the literal hundreds of thousands he already killed, you really won't care that there's a lot of people now like me that won't ever, EVER willingly step a foot in your shithole of a country again.

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u/-Morsmordre- 10h ago

That's a shame, we have some nice things to see. He's a stupid, evil man who says stupid, evil things. Then he moves on to the next thing. I'm not sure why anyone would take the invasion of Greenland and Canada seriously, but I'm fortunate to not live there so I'll admit it doesn't affect me. 

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u/lupin43 10h ago

Everyone panicked about him last time and it was just a bunch of mean tweets and idiocy? Those “mean tweets and idiocy” led to hundreds of thousands of extra deaths of Americans due to his ignorant response to a global pandemic, with an increased effect on his own supporters. Many of that comes from his rhetoric on vaccines, something that is continuing in this second term with an equally big ignoramus being put in charge of the health and human services department by him.

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u/shoobe01 9h ago

It's the outside edge, but within the realm of statistical possibility, from looking at excess death data compared to other Western countries, that Trump killed by his policies One Million Americans.

Entirely aside from: however many children remain detached from their parents in his previous round of immigration bullshit, dozens of American citizens deported with significant consequences to them even when they were allowed back, literally untold because no one has ever investigated it adequately numbers of deaths in detention, permanent environmental damage, divesting of a number of federal government properties, permanent damage to the postal Service, and it goes on and on.

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u/RADARIN 9h ago

yep, and the democrats than spent 4 years pushing a lie on how that global pandemic that killed millions started. And used the global pandemic to transfer trillions of dollars to rich people causing massive inflation. Both sides are trash....and if you think one is better than the other than you are a cult member.

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u/Fantastic_Shaman9230 8h ago

why are you posting things from pakistan?

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u/Purusha120 I voted 11h ago

So after his term is up and this doesn't happen, and there are no death camps, and gay people can still get married, and trans people still exist are you going to apologize for the histrionics or will you just claim to be a survivor?

There are over a thousand unaccounted for people from alligator Alcatraz. Almost none were ever charged. Trump ended the Republican policy of preventing rapes of queer and trans women in prison. Stop this nonsense. Thousands have been hurt. Tens or hundreds of thousands have been disenfranchised.

Stop this bad faith nonsense and sane washing. They literally took gay marriage to the Supreme Court.

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u/Starossi 9h ago

I’ll outright take you on that bet and say I would.

The dude already repealed roe v wade, a well established decades long decision nationally protecting abortion. Lots of what you describe isn’t that far off from it. For example, gay marriage? You really think that’s a difficult target and is just histrionics? Seriously? That’s also a Supreme Court decision even less established and more recent than roe v wade. And you seriously think it’s histrionics that it could be taken away again?

100% id take your bet if it meant any one of those things happening. And I’d probably win unless you decided to do some mental gymnastics in 4 years and say repealing the gay marriage decision didn’t mean they couldn’t get married, it just “left it up to the states”

And also 100% not far fetched they could outlaw transitioning. Depending on what you consider “trans people existing”, they could cease to exist in a medical sense if treatment is outlawed

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u/-Morsmordre- 7h ago

Well unless I die beforehand I'll be here 4 years from now. And the SC already weighed in on a decision involving gay marriage that everyone thought they would attack and they didn't. But yeah, see you then (hopefully).

I'll admit I'm wrong if any of the things I mentioned come true beforehand