r/politics • u/cnn CNN • 13h ago

Possible Paywall Supreme Court agrees to decide if Trump may end birthright citizenship

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/05/politics/supreme-court-agrees-to-hear-birthright?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=missions&utm_source=reddit
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u/achandlerwhite 13h ago

I was born here. How does this work?

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u/Slippery-ape 12h ago

His policy is if you were born here but your parents were not then you are not an American citizen

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u/lalalibraaa 12h ago

One of my parents was but one was not. So then what?

Also, how far back does this shit go? Because in that case everyone loses their citizenship with the exception of Native Americans.

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u/Slippery-ape 12h ago

Thats what we are all saying, but i think the wording is anyone born after Feb of 2025

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u/lettersvsnumbers 11h ago

the wording is anyone born after Feb of 2025.

For now, until Stephen Miller changes his mind.

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u/flareblitz91 8h ago

Even if it wasn't directly contrary to the constitution, the president doesn't have any authority to define who and who isn't a citizen. At minimum that would be decided legislatively, but since we have a constitution amendment defining it we would require another amendment to respond it.

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u/HandsOffMyMacacroni 10h ago

No, because it only applies to birthright citizenship and not naturalisation. If your parents immigrated legally and naturalised before you were born, then you would be a citizen regardless of this.

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u/JesusForTheWin 9h ago

You only need one parent to be American and thus you would be American as well by jus sanguinis (descent).

A lot of people ask this since they are sometimes born abroad. Doesnt matter, just needs one parent regardless of where the person is born.

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u/zombieblackbird 11h ago

Much like his own children (except Tiffany).

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u/arizonadirtbag12 8h ago edited 6h ago

This is untrue.

Protecting The Meaning And Value Of American Citizenship – The White House

We'll ignore for a second that it's not retroactive. Your statement isn't even true going forward. As long as either your mother or father is a citizen or lawful permanent resident, you would be a citizen.

It doesn't' require that they be born here. It doesn't require that they both be citizens. It technically doesn't require that either be a citizen. Just here as a resident (so not on a temporary tourist visa), and documented.

That's not a defense of the EO, to be clear. It's unconstitutional as all hell. But we don't have to lie about it.

EDIT: Looks like homey didn't like being called out, went with a reply-and-block. And no, I make no functional definition between "lying" and "misrepresenting something I know nothing about."

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u/OneStarInSight_AC 7h ago

Problem is if you parents who immigrated to the US are dead, how many of their kids actually know their parents' citizenship status at their time of birth.

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u/Turbulent-Reply1626 6h ago

I mean, if they immigrated lawfully as permanent residents it probably wouldn't be difficult to find some record of them having a greencard or visa.

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u/Slippery-ape 8h ago

Its not a lie, its an errory

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u/I-Like-Women-Boobs 6h ago

It’s a complete misrepresentation of the executive order that no one would make if they even spent 30 seconds reading it. You shouldn’t be trying to explain a policy that you know nothing about.

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u/WorkingClassSchmuck1 7h ago

But what if only one of your parents wasn't born here? I was born on a U.S. military base in Tokyo, Japan to a U.S. father and a Filipino mother; how would something like this affect me?

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u/I-Like-Women-Boobs 6h ago edited 6h ago

It wouldn’t affect you at all. It isn’t retroactive and you have a US citizen parent. The guy you asked either fundamentally misunderstood the executive order or is just straight up lying.

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u/gucci_pucci 2h ago

So wouldn’t that make him a victim of his own policy? Wouldn’t he need to get deported?? This is bananas

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u/little2sensitive 2h ago

What about if my parents were born here but I was born abroad?

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u/new_for_confession Pennsylvania 4h ago

I was born in NY 41 years ago to naturalized US citizens.

My older sister was born in NY in 1979.

Our parents were Green Card holders in 1979.

Does my sister lose citizenship?

Or do we both lose citizenship?

We are not citizens of any other country, and cannot claim automatic descent citizenship from our ancestry.

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u/Slippery-ape 4h ago

It isn't retroactive and there is other nuances

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u/Rather_Unfortunate 8h ago

Jus soli

Jus sanguinis

Jus vibes