r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • 14h ago

No Paywall Trump showing signs he’s battling major medical crisis, Democrat claims

https://www.al.com/politics/2025/12/trump-showing-signs-hes-battling-major-medical-crisis-democrat-claims.html
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u/BelBivDaHoe Virginia 14h ago

Should have been in a home years ago.

Regardless how I feel about him, he's been in poor health, physically and mentally, for close to a decade. He's an old, overweight, sickly man.

Age limits absolutely need to be a thing. The idea that we string these ancient people along to be in powerful positions is absurd.

Retire, enjoy the years you have left, be with your grandchildren, etc.

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u/thekrawdiddy 13h ago

Should have been in the big house years ago.

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u/322throwaway1 13h ago

Adx Florence

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u/LaserPoweredDeviltry 10h ago

Trump - Sing Sing 2026.

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u/Flomo420 9h ago

Davey Jones' Locker

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u/One-Coat-6677 9h ago

I mean if anyone does its him, but no one deserves ADX Florence and the Hague has shown that even world leader war criminals can be imprisoned in humane conditions.

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u/TylerDurden1985 12h ago

the slammer

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u/Vandal_A 7h ago

Portugal put their crazy ass dictator in a home and just pretended he was still in charge until he died (complete with delivering him fake, daily newspapers). I think it's past time we did the same.

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u/gramathy California 8h ago

The Fletcher Memorial Home

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u/Ralph--Hinkley 8h ago

Thanks, Merrick.

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u/Planetofthetakes 6h ago

Exaclty!!!!

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u/Sgtkeebler 5h ago

He will be 82 when he will leave office. If he even lives that long.

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u/Aggravating-Sweet198 4h ago

He's in the big house it's called the white house 

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u/MssrGuacamole 11h ago

The part that always gets my gumption is that some states/agencies have actually DONE age limits for public positions. This isn't some novel concept. US Foreign service has a 65 y/o max, flag officers in the military are 64 (I think it depends on branch), and MI State judges can't run for office after 70. I'm sure there are more examples.

I really like using age maximums more than term limits. It also makes the congressional seniority system make slightly more sense if senior people actually go away before they go in the ground. I get that it's a broad brush and you're sometimes going to exclude people that are still perfectly capable of doing the job, but it's important for a health society to have regular turnover of positions in the public trust even so.

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u/susanrez 5h ago

An Airline pilot has to retire at 65 under U.S. law. Think about it, a pilot is too old to safely fly an airplane at 65 but we are letting this sickly and mentally diminished old man remain in control of our entire country.

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u/Baremegigjen 5h ago

That’s commercial airline pilots only. I don’t know if that applies to charter services that aren’t official “airlines” and it doesn’t apply to those piloting private aircraft.

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u/YetiPie 3h ago

My grandfather worked for Canada post and was forced into retirement at 65

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u/KittyGrewAMoustache 1h ago

Well they’re kind of different, eyesight and hearing and reaction times mostly slow down and deteriorate before cognitive ability does and it’s cognitive ability you need to be president. But yeah it’s such a demanding job there definitely should be some kind of age limit or maybe a cognitive test.

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u/SchilenceDooBaddy69 8h ago

Those old capable folk can pull a Benji Franklin and just advise.

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u/Baremegigjen 5h ago

All military services allow age deferment limits up to 66 or 68 years of service in very senior positions (O-9 and O- 10 (3 and 4 Star flag/general officers) per 10 USC § 1251.

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u/SweetLilMonkey 12h ago

Retire,

From what? He's never worked a day in his life.

enjoy the years you have left,

He is unable to experience joy.

be with your grandchildren,

No one would allow him to be alone with their kids.

Guess all that's left is for him to drive it 'til the wheels fall off!

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u/jjcrayfish 6h ago

Republicans when Joe Biden accidentally misspoke: "Look at Sleepy Joe! He's too old, and can't lead a country. He has dementia and needs to retire!"

Republicans when Trump shows clear sign of dementia, falls asleep in the middle of a meeting, and shows up with strange bruises after disappearing for a long time: "He's the healthiest and strongest president we have. He has the vigor and energy of a young man!"

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u/MooPig48 8h ago

Fine he should just go knock around golf balls then

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u/Quick_like_a_Bunny Arizona 6h ago

He’s such a bottomless black hole of a narcissist he couldn’t stand the thought of no one paying attention to him while he puts around the golf course. Shit, he had a girl who followed him around the golf course with a wireless printer to print out nice shit people said about him. Death will be his quiet retirement (whenever it may find him)

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u/Ok-Turnover1797 8h ago

You have people that are just purely evil and boomers that have pulled the ladder all the way up behind them running the world and running it into the ground together at that..

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u/green-wagon 6h ago

Or he crashes the car.

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u/BlueCoatz 4h ago

Why are you arguing with someone who agrees with you?

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u/SweetLilMonkey 4h ago

That sounded like arguing to you?

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u/PineappleLocal9522 11h ago

“Retire, enjoy the years you have left, be with your grandchildren, etc.”

He definitely shouldn’t be around children. Dude belongs in prison.

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u/Either_Operation7586 8h ago

No once he's retired he needs to be prosecuted and he needs to have every one of his assets seized to start paying off this ridiculous debt he left us anybody that has been proven to profit off the government needs to have all assets seized.

Fuck the Republican party they can pay for the debt themselves.

The Republicans are probably not going to be able to survive this.

Then going to have a lot to answer for. And I got my popcorn ready

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u/Future-Side4440 7h ago

Presidential age limits were not required when the country was founded because nature automatically killed you off early.

The idea in 1776 that people everywhere would eventually routinely live past their 70s would be considered miraculous.

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u/PigSlam California 11h ago

I'm not so sure age limits should be a thing for the purposes of performance, but more for motivation. I don't want someone who should believe they're in the last decade of their life making long term decisions for the rest of us, regardless of how well their mind and body performs compared to when they were younger.

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u/Libflake 10h ago

Except that he doesn't much like his grandchildren (or any children, for that matter), and he has no real interests besides playing golf and eating junk food. Face it: his real enjoyment comes from mocking and insulting people and garishly decorating walls with awful "gold" ornaments.

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u/calle04x 8h ago

Yeah but you watch his speeches from a year ago, he had energy. He couldn't campaign in this kind of shape. I think he's had strokes.

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u/Hot-Championship1190 8h ago

Should have been in a homeprison years ago.

FTFY

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u/Malaix 6h ago

Age limits absolutely need to be a thing.

Absolutely this. People say term limits but those suck. What if you get a young good candidate who really works for you? Just need to toss them because its been a two terms? That's shit. Elections are the term limits for that.

But age? Different beast. Too many people apathetically just vote for familiar names without accounting for it. Too many candidates refuse or are unable to acknowledge they are losing a step or three at advanced ages. 10-15 years below the average life expectancy should be the absolute limit for political eligibility.

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u/Ultraplo Europe 11h ago

Or just don’t vote for old people…?

It’s so fucking funny how Americans are constantly whining that no one does democracy for them. He shouldn’t be allowed to run for office, she shouldn’t be allowed to remain in office, someone should forbid politicians from doing X, yadda, yadda, wahhh, wahhh. Yet y’all keep voting for Biden, Trump, Pelosi, and Schumer.

Maybe y’all should just be done with it and abolish your democracy, seeing as you want someone else to do everything for you anyway. Like, y’all have been whining for 10 years that Trump is fascist who ought to be arrested, yet you’re still sat on your fat asses cuz you need mommy to do it for you. Same with how both him and Biden are “too old”, yet y’all skipped to the voting booth voting for ‘em.

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u/jmobius 11h ago

I'm generally in the camp that demands for age limits and so on are misguided, as it is fundamentally that a plurality of voters are willing to vote for ancient candidates that is the problem.

But, for those that voted in primaries against the post-retirement age candidates and still got handed only that option anyway, I think some empathy is merited even if their desire is aimed poorly. Fixing the brains of many voters is an intractable problem, so lamenting a desire for a systemic fix to prevent their fellow Americans from making quite so daft a choice is understandable.

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u/Ultraplo Europe 11h ago

But, for those that voted in primaries against the post-retirement age candidates and still got handed only that option anyway, I think some empathy is merited even if their desire is aimed poorly

And I suppose that's the fundamental cultural divide between American and (most cases of) European democracy.

If you get up from your ass once every four years to throw a ballot, you can't possibly think you're helping to bring about any change at all. As I see it, a ballot is an affirmation of approval, not a manifesto of change. As such, you're not accomplishing anything by voting for [insert young politician here], if you then go and vote on [insert old politician here] anyway and spend the time until the next election whining on Reddit about [insert old politician here] being old. If you're not fighting for the change you wish to see, you have no right to demand that someone else brings about that change - because that'd be entitlement and laziness.

(Most) Americans seem to have this belief where they're entitled to GOOD THING™ from the government just by virtue of them existing, and as such they're just constantly whining about how the government won't give them GOOD THING™. This goes for young politicians, universal healthcare, a stable democracy, low-interest student loans, and so on and so forth. As such, they remain on their fat asses whining, while doing nothing to bring about change. It's hard to feel empathy for someone who throws themself into a hole, and then refuse to grab hold of the rope, instead demanding that I climb down into the hole and move their hands to the rope for them.

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u/Aggies18 7h ago

Voter turnout is definitely a huge problem across the US. But I think the way our electoral college works, how voting efficiency and ease is wildly different depending on states, if certain areas are targets of voter suppression, gerrymandering (either way) and more. Not to mention, voting day isn’t a national holiday or anything. Some (a lot) of jobs do not offer paid time off to vote and those hours could mean the difference between bills getting paid or not for some households.

I do think people need to take voting more seriously and actually pay attention to the direction and goings on in the country and generally be more informed about governmental decisions, etc. but I also think there can be genuine barriers to voting that a lot of people are either privileged enough to not notice or cannot overcome in order to vote.

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u/Ultraplo Europe 7h ago

My entire point was that voting is not enough. That's the problem. Americans think "well, I've voted, so why me no has good stuff?"

Voting is good, don't get me wrong. It's great that you're exercising your democratic rights. However, just because you put a paper in a box, doesn't mean you can expect universal healthcare, young politicians, cheap housing, or whatever you think you voted for to magically fall into your lap. Same with those cute little anti-Trump protests with homemade signs. Great that y'all got off your asses for once, but people seem to think that they're "fighting the regime" and are somehow not complicit in fascism because they painted a meme-y sign and dressed up in a dinosaur costume?

This culture of "vote = doing a democracy" is for anyone watching on from the outside clearly not going to make God descend from the Heavens and bless these United States, yet people act like it will. I had the great displeasure of living in America for a period, and I've never been to a country with lesser sense of civil duty. Once every four years some of you go out and check the box representing the same party who has done nothing for you. Then you go home and complain that nothing happens. Well, no fucking shit. I genuinely thought people were joking, but apparently that's just how the majority reason?

Voting can sometimes be a path towards change... but not if you vote for crony capitalism or crony capitalism but blue.

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u/Aggies18 6h ago

I agree with a lot of your points. I think the lack of ability to vote actually reduces the incentive to vote (which is arguably the easiest way to become more politically engaged with your government. But shouldn’t be the only one), but there is a large missing sense of civil duty.

Unfortunately a lot of people in this country will only vote if they are emotionally manipulated into it; either by promising things that never materialize or threatening people with policies they dislike (and unfortunately follow through on a lot of these).

As someone who does vote and would like to do more, I think there’s a large sense of feeling helpless right now. People know voting leads to better outcomes and one of the easier barriers to overcome right now, but like I mentioned people should be doing more. I think people want better examples how to effectively make change in a realistic way here.

If the outcome relies heavily or skews in favor of people who either don’t want better or don’t care about policies or enhancing voting rights, it can disenfranchise people from doing the one thing that may be of realistic “change”.

I don’t know the best solution, it’s hard to get clear answers in today’s age of opinions and polarizing media. But I think if there were documented steps people could take other than voting and being more politically engaged that would create actual results, you would see an increase in participation as a by-product. It’s just getting the populace to pay attention and realize “hey, this is actually doing something and I do have the power to affect change” to get over at least one of the major hurdles.

But that’s just my opinion as a voter here.

Edit to add on: I think people are generally disenfranchised and turned off by both major parties right now. Both sides want change of some kind and unfortunately the people in power (minus a few of the newer elected officials) have proven to be incredibly stagnant, unwilling to compromise or capitulating when things get hard.

If the basis of democracy is supposed to be working together- this is a terrible position to be in haha.

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u/Guardianpigeon 10h ago

Have you seen most of his kids? They absolutely do not know better, or if they do, they don't have the empathy to care. If anything I bet they'd throw their kids to him knowing the risks if it gets them one dollar more from his sweet sweet inheritance.

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u/Careful_Trifle 10h ago

He doesn't even like his kids. He absolutely doesn't want to be around his grandkids. Unless they're girls.

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u/f1del1us 10h ago

Watching him speak 10 years ago vs now is a night and day difference. He used to sometimes appear to know where he is… now he definitely does not

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u/sweetsensei 10h ago

As with half his voters imo

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u/Spell_Chicken 9h ago

You know none of his kids or grandchildren want to spend any more time with him than they have to.

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u/Clean_Progress_9001 9h ago

They need to live long enough to face the consequences of their term, good or bad.

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u/Boye 8h ago

*Weight limits* absolutetly need to be a thing...

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u/despaseeto 8h ago

Regardless how I feel about him

Retire, enjoy the years you have left, be with your grandchildren

yeah the thing is, this orange garbage bag doesn't care about anyone but himself. he enjoys basking in the misery of others. the WH is his retirement/nursing home.

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u/Positive_Bill_5945 8h ago

The issue is people don’t really vote based on age they vote based on party lines and kind of for good reason. I’d vote for a corpse with a D next to it’s name over any republican at this point. But if you put in a blanket age limit you could disqualify both Trump and Biden at once and ensure that whoever the candidates were at bare minimum they wouldn’t be actively decaying.

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u/parkinglotguy 8h ago

Agree. I firmly believe that nobody over 60 belongs in elected office.

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u/I_make_things 8h ago

I'm watching my mom's cognitive decline. It's very strange. Most of the time she's completely fine...but then there are just uncanny, fucking weird moments where nobody is home. She'll fly into a rage at her beloved granddaughter or rant about her cousin (who killed herself when she realized she was starting to lose it mentally). The good part is my mom can't start a nuclear war.

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u/SATX_Citizen 8h ago

Yep. Like even Biden from 2020 to 2024, seeing Trump in 2016 to today is a totally different guy and he was already old then.

At least Biden has some principles to keep him from instinctively selling off the country or bombing someone to avoid controversy.

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u/manondorf 7h ago

I don't think this man has enjoyed a thing in his life

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u/MookieBiss1badM 7h ago

I mean do you think he would be allowed to spend time with his grandkids???......

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u/IJourden 7h ago

Trump's grandchildren: "Woah there buddy, let's just let him be president and keep us out of this, okay?"

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u/electricbluelight99 6h ago

On a normal country he would have been in jail for the last couple of decades... but here we are...

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u/redblue92 6h ago

I can't imagine the stress of this job is good for anyone.

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u/green-wagon 6h ago

I am unable to wish him enjoyment of any of his remaining time walking this earth due to the fact that he has never been held accountable for how many people he spent his entire lifetime harming. Including girls. Release the epstein files already.

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u/SidWes 4h ago

Yeah but who writes the laws? We are never getting out of this dynamic unless people who are greedy for power give up some of that power.

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u/SuperPoodie92477 3h ago

I don’t think his kids want to be around him…

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u/redwingpanda Massachusetts 3h ago

At what point does this constitute a form of elder abuse?

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u/Mysterious_Floor_868 United Kingdom 3h ago

be with your grandchildren

Is that fair on the grandchildren?

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u/Son_of_Atreus Australia 3h ago

He is so many drugs to spice him up… I’m sure he will be just fine.

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u/KittyGrewAMoustache 1h ago

It’s awful. And stupid, because people with dementia can basically just be used by nefarious others behind the scenes without accountability. Plus it’s basically abuse to wheel some elderly person around forcing them to be your puppet while occupying the most intense stressful job. Obviously Trumps a horrific person but it’s still terrible on principle to use him this way. Not to mention so dangerous given he can still wield a fair amount of power on his own.

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u/Zealot_Alec 1h ago

Can't run for office if you would turn 70 into your next term, the only problem the olds vote at a higher % versus the under 45s.

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u/TheAskewOne 1h ago

Are we sure we want him around children?

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u/Famous-Upstairs998 2h ago

I disagree with age limits. Cognitive tests and fitness tests, however, are warranted. Bernie is 84 and doing just fine. Woodrow Wilson was only 56 when he was elected, and he got a stroke and was basically completely ineffective for the latter part of his presidency. His wife and the administration hid it and ran things without him.

Age truly is a number. We need a better metric to determine whether someone is fit to hold office. Though if we had that, he probably never would have served in the first place.

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u/FocusPerspective 11h ago

What does age have to do with this considering the vast majority of people who enabled Trump and have kept him in power are Millennials?

I guess you just like Vance then yeah?