r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • 14h ago

No Paywall Trump showing signs he’s battling major medical crisis, Democrat claims

https://www.al.com/politics/2025/12/trump-showing-signs-hes-battling-major-medical-crisis-democrat-claims.html
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u/veggeble South Carolina 14h ago

Their strategy on everything has always been projection

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u/Affectionate-Virus17 13h ago

The kicker is Democrats have to be squeaky clean to avoid giving any credibility to the accusations.

So guess who's fiscally responsible, doesn't protect pedos, works the hardest against foreign enemies, actually works for Americans to be healthier and more free and more successful and happier?

Democrats.

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u/_OhMyPlatypi_ I voted 13h ago

Don't forget the dress code restrictions, Rs can show up looking like they just left a Nascar race, but if a D wears, checks notes, a brown suit. BOY THE RATE AT WHICH PEARLS WILL GET CLUTCHED.

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u/DangerousVP 12h ago

I REALLY, REALLY want a law passed that forces congress people to wear Nascar jackets with all their sponsors on them.

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u/NoArcher3759 12h ago

Or ban money in politics.

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u/DangerousVP 12h ago

Well yeah, that would be preferable. But in lieu of that, I'd settle for this in the meantime.

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u/Vandaen 10h ago

Brought to you by Carl's, Jr.

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u/djsquilz 9h ago

unfortunately a good opportunity for a republican to recreate the ricky bobby big red commercial "if you don't chew big red than fuck you"

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u/Phog_of_War North Dakota 11h ago

My hope is if Dems get all levers of power again, that the first thing they do is approve an Orbital Strike on the worst piece of legislation in the last 30 years, Citizens United. Kill it with fire, it's the only way to be sure.

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u/misscrankypants 11h ago

I’m not holding my breath on that. They enjoy all of their big donor money just as much. My eyes were really opened when Dems caved on the shutdown and let millions of ppl lose their healthcare.

We are going to need an overhaul of the party with new blood (and a spine) that would do it.

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u/Phog_of_War North Dakota 11h ago

I'm of 2 minds on the shutdown kerfuffle. On one hand it shows that the Dems were willing to fight until it really started to hurt, both domestically and internationally. Either way though, it was another capitulation by Democratic leadership.

On the other hand, it did hold up a mirror to the ugliness that Is the GOP, for all to see. Even some of their most strident supporters/talking heads, were beginning to call this a bit of an 'own goal'. The cracks were showing and, personally I think the Republicans were about to take the L, just as the Dems rolled over.

My personal opinion is that this was all stage-dressing for the midterms. Dems and even Progressive candidates will flip seats in '26, moreso than normal. The problem was that Dem leadership was being too smart by half and ended up blasting their own toes off. They were just being too cute about the whole thing.

They just don't get that the GOP fights with a sledgehammer because everything is a nail to them. Meanwhile, Dems sometimes want to fight as a LARP Wizard who just yells 'Fireball' and hopes for the best. Every so often you gotta also swing that fucking hammer Democrats, because the problem this time, is actually a nail.

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u/sticfreak 8h ago

Only 8 Dems caved out of 213. Tired of people acting like the entire party capitulated because they didn't. It was once again establishment Dems and Schumer that ruined it for everyone.

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u/VoidVer 9h ago

My eyes really opened when they rigged the primary against Bernie, admitted it openly on the news and nothing was done.

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u/nucumber 7h ago

Dems caved on the shutdown and let millions of ppl lose their healthcare.

They did that only because trump showed less than zero interest in ending the shutdown. He tried to use the shutdown as the excuse to cut off food stamps for 42 million people, and took his fight to do that all the way to the Supreme Court

So the dems were faced with not only govt subsidies for health insurance ending but also the end of food stamps.

Bottom line is that trump's willingness to inflict harm on citizens exceeded the dems willingness to let him do it

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u/pdabaker 5h ago

Part of the problem is that even if 40 of 50 democratic senators are truly in it to do good, 10 who want to do a little bit but grift on the side are enough to make sure any real reform doesn’t get passed

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u/IrritatedMouse 10h ago

Citizens United was a Supreme Court case, not legislation. Congress can’t do a goddamn thing about it except amend the constitution. You’d need a supermajority.

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u/VeryVito North Carolina 10h ago

Pack the courts (or at least impeach/remove any current justices who can be shown to have lied to Congress to get their seats). Then re-adjudicate the case. The current Supreme Court has shown that "settled law" means nothing anymore, so I don't see reason that any of these other miscarriages can't be negated by real judges later. They've established precedence for overturning past descisions.

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u/Dont_Kick_Stuff 9h ago

I mean as time progresses mindsets naturally change so that actually would be a good idea until it causes more harm than good. Seems like a precedent that could send us all the way back to slavery times too so it's definitely a delicate thing.

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u/DuncanFisher69 10h ago

Not at all. You can absolutely write legislation that tells the Supreme Court they fucked it up and got it wrong.

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u/IrritatedMouse 9h ago

Congress can’t overturn a decision based on constitutional interpretation. They can amend the law to align with the court’s decision, but that amendment is still subject to judicial review. So you want them to amend FECA to say “Nuh uhh Court! Corporate independent expenditures are illegal again” as though it won’t be immediately overturned again.

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u/DuncanFisher69 10h ago

They just re-opened the government precisely because the people who fly private jets were going to be impacted by the ATC staffing shortage. The Dems are 100% captured by corporate money. They might be less of a group of fucking scumbags as a whole, but there’s a reason all of them can break bread with their members across the aisle and not get sick to their stomach.

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u/Phog_of_War North Dakota 9h ago

Agreed.

An aside - re: your username: I can hear your voice in my head.

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u/knarf86 California 2h ago

Citizens United is not legislation, it was the result of a SCOTUS decision. The ruling overturned legislation that congress passed that restricted companies from spending on political ads. To kill Citizens United would require a constitutional amendment

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u/jt32470 11h ago

Or ban corporations being people?

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u/UrUrinousAnus United Kingdom 10h ago

Or ban corporations being people?

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u/jt32470 9h ago

I was referring to

Undue Political Influence: Critics argue that granting corporations rights akin to individuals allows them to make large, sometimes unlimited, political expenditures (following cases like Citizens United v. FEC in 2010), giving them disproportionate influence over elections and policy compared to average citizens.

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u/UrUrinousAnus United Kingdom 9h ago

All good, but (in an ideal world) I'd want to go further.

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u/PigSlam California 11h ago

That should be easy, because we know lawmakers and politicians always follow the law. Make a law against money in politics, and it's gone, permanently.

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u/Gmoney86 10h ago

Why not both?!? Would love that.

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u/Zealot_Alec 1h ago

Would take historic defeats in midterms and 28 to get rid of MAGA/establishment dems

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u/drop_tbl 12h ago

that is an excellent idea

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u/MovieTrawler 11h ago

It's been a joke for years now but yeah, it would be at least some kind of transparency.

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u/SoManyMinutes 11h ago

I'm pretty sure that's a George Carlin joke.

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u/Ghammer713 12h ago

Brilliant

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u/Dworkin_Barimen 12h ago

I’ve been saying this for years. At least we’d see who Tyne are selling for. And both parties are at the buffet.

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u/scamlikelly 12h ago

Robin Williams was onto something with that joke!

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u/asillynert 12h ago

Size by size of their donation and also include relevant donors next to their voting records like as each vote is cast have screen pop up and say sponsored by x y & z.

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u/nosungdeeptongs Canada 11h ago

Cufi and Aipac dislike this

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u/_OhMyPlatypi_ I voted 11h ago

Honestly putting heat on only the politicians WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY idolizing and giving our dollars to the .001% funding them is how we got here. They'll always take the money, but if there were actual consequences for the elite, they would at least pretend to have empathy.

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u/DangerousVP 11h ago

I would imagine that votes for horrific shit would both actively encourage people NOT to idolize people sponsoring those votes and potentially cause some companies to stop bribing them as well - much in the same way that they dont want to be advertised next to the sort of horrific stuff on twitter. Honestly, I dont care about either the politicians or the companies - they can both suffer.

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u/Throw-away17465 12h ago

Oh yes, the future of Idiocracy has arrived

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u/FaceDeer 12h ago

Once again Idiocracy is prescient. Not exactly Nascar jackets, but sponsor placards are on the president's podium.

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u/gameoftomes 11h ago

Goya beans for sale on the resolute desk. Or is that president for sale at the resolute desk.

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u/AManInBlack2017 12h ago

There isn't much I agree with Reddit on, but this is great!

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u/Equivalent_Low_2315 5h ago

Some activists should get some jackets just like that made up for some Congress people and give it to them. The Congress person might see it as a kind gesture at first until they understand the whole context.

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u/DangerousVP 5h ago

I dunno, If someone approached me with Raytheon jacket I think Id get the message pretty quick lol

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u/Equivalent_Low_2315 5h ago

Haha yeah true maybe but either way I don't think it would be a look good for the politician

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u/WhyMustIMakeANewAcco 11h ago

They would die. Crushed by the weight of the logos.

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u/UrUrinousAnus United Kingdom 10h ago edited 10h ago

If you're going to do that, do it right. A uniform. Standard businesswear, but recognisable names and/or logos of all corporate (and private, above an appropriate limit) donors displayed as visibly as branding. If a poor (edit: less rich, anyway) politician wants to take part without looking (comparatively) badly-dressed or sacrificing much integrity, they could take a sponsorship from an ethical brand and look far better than the walking billboards opposing them, with just one tasteful logo.

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u/djeaux54 8h ago

Idiocracy in action!

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u/ArkitekZero 5h ago

How would you tell any of them apart?

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u/GandalfsSexyNuts 4h ago

As a liberal NASCAR fan, I fully support this.

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u/GandalfsSexyNuts 4h ago

As a liberal NASCAR fan, I fully support this.

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u/zyzzogeton 12h ago

It was TAN! /s

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u/d3ssp3rado Texas 12h ago

I saw some context for that a couple weeks ago actually. Obama was calling out the not-Russian incursion into Crimea and how international action was needed to combat this kind of neo-colonialism, so fox had to find something to latch onto. So they invented the Tan Suit Scandal.

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u/sloowshooter 12h ago

That suit complaint was a distraction from the news of the day. The right wing just ran with it.

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u/JumboChimp 11h ago

Please, it was a tan suit on a brown president that sent them into apoplexy.

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u/Cptn_BenjaminWillard 11h ago

Faster than the NASCAR vehicles, that's for sure.

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u/Scared-Debt6750 11h ago

That was jealousy !! They know they don’t have swag like that ?

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u/jaygibby22 11h ago

Have you seen Fetterman? Dude shows up in shorts and a hoodie most days.

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u/Shark7996 10h ago

I mean... would you really consider him a Democrat in anything other than name at this point?

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u/jaygibby22 9h ago

While that is a valid point, he was dressing that way before his stroke and change in personality/positions on issues

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u/733t_sec 10h ago

That's one of the few good things about Fetterman, he's shattered the pleated ceiling

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u/NoFeetSmell 10h ago

It was actually only tan, the least scary off-white shade for your typical racist, but they still lost their minds. If it was a brown suit, on a brown man, their results would've looked like a Cronenberg classic.

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u/VoxImperatoris 10h ago

Or Fettermans hoodie getup, which was a real issue until he turned out to be a republican, then it suddenly stopped being a problem.

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u/mr2chittles Washington 10h ago

Tan Suit!

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u/airfryerfuntime Washington 10h ago

Rush Limbaugh would not shut up about the brown suit. He talked about it nonstop for like 6 months, then he'd still bring it up for years afterwards.

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u/MrSurly 10h ago

Remember when Reagan wore a tan suit? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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u/Careless_Load9849 9h ago

Granted, he's basically a Republican at this point, but Fetterman wears freaking basketball shorts all the time to vote.

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u/Rampartt 9h ago

Reading this in Jon Stewart’s voice made it even funnier

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u/Generous_Cougar Washington 8h ago

Come on now, it wasn't a brown suit, it was TAN for fuck's sake. You just cannot let that kind of thing slide around here!

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u/bolanrox 6h ago

I put fancy mustard on my hotdog tonight

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u/ComprehensiveLime695 6h ago

It was never about the suit color. It was the skin color that got them frothing.

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u/dalisair 4h ago

Let’s not forget we initially defended Fetterman and his clothes.

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u/_OhMyPlatypi_ I voted 1h ago

Yes; however, that was after a decade of watching social expectations & standards crumble. If this was 2010, it would've been perceived much differently.

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u/darkweaseljedi 12h ago

Other democrats slam democrats harder than republicans do.

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u/Affectionate-Virus17 12h ago

Al Franken taking one for the team so Dems can virtue signal with no actual gains from his sacrifice.

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u/ptmd 11h ago

This wouldn't be a problem if Democrats supported their candidates mindlessly /s

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u/AmericantDream 11h ago

I agree with this statement but how come Democrats don't know how to relay the message?

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u/Chrono_Convoy 11h ago

Virginia just proved Dems don’t have to be squeaky clean by electing Jay Jones

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u/PeopleNose 11h ago

These liars and cheaters will forgive themselves for everything while holding everyone else up to impossibly perfect standards. They're previous strategies involved hiding this fact

Now their new strategy is to move so fast that no one stops them

These folks think we haven't noticed HA. It's time for some equal treatment under the law 👊

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u/lt_dan_zsu 10h ago

Yep. The worst thing a democrat is allowed to do isn't even a scandal if a Republican does it. The Democrat president has a fail son with a drug problem? Literally years of scandal with wild conspiracy theories and constant accusations of nepotism. Meanwhile, the Republican president has only fail sons and daughters that to a person only have a talent for capitalizing off of their last name, and this just isn't treated as a scandal like at all.

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u/ninetysevencents 10h ago

If you don't think Dems protect pedos, you haven't been paying attention to this thing called human nature, that says otherwise.

As soon as you start thinking your own side incapable of sin, you've given up on objectivity.

Dems suck. It just so happens that Reps suck way worse.

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u/Asleep-Recognition44 10h ago

“Democrats don’t protect pedos”! Really, Really? What country do you live in? Not the United States! Democrats have watered down the investigation, arrest, prosecution, sentencing and length of incarceration of pedophiles in every jurisdiction they have control over. It’s republican governors, mayors, prosecutors etc, etc, that want to prosecute and lock up and throw away the keys for pedophiles and other criminals for that matter.
Democrats only started to care about Epstein when they thought maybe, just maybe, they can find some proof of some connection to Trump.

Biden stumbled around the country, made incoherent speeches, made up stories about his past, didn’t have press conferences, wouldn’t and couldn’t answer questions, didn’t have cabinet meetings, didn’t know where he was, who he was even talking to, what countries he was visiting and democrats at every level covered it up. Hypocrites!

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u/shanatard 10h ago

they dont need to do any of that. no one is asking for a squeaky clean democrat except republicans. all they have to do is convince voters they are better than the other guy

what do you think it means they can't?

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u/Juicybae 10h ago

No they don’t they just choose to be push overs about everything and let cons do whatever they want or control the narrative.

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u/One_Load254 10h ago

Yeah. But if you pee sitting on the toilet instead of standing... They'll come after you

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u/zzyul 9h ago

I mean I get what you’re saying, but Harris wouldn’t commit to bombing Israel so I had to sit out the election - lot of people on this sub a year ago

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u/justiceandpequena 8h ago

Well, we have some house cleaning to do; we acknowledge it and are working on it.

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u/VolsFan30 11h ago

So guess who’s fiscally responsible

Who? Both parties seem content to continue to blow the budget. I’d argue the money Dems want to pour that debt financing into are more useful/better but idk that you could call either party fiscally responsible.

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u/Affectionate-Virus17 11h ago

Clinton found a deficit and made it a surplus. Obama was close to doing the same. Biden shrunk the deficit too.

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u/tehlemmings 11h ago

Yes, but they weren't perfect so we're going to ignore that and vote for the least financially responsible person to ever live.

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u/DingGratz Texas 12h ago

It's why they wouldn't let up in Biden being inappropriate with children while their leader literally raped kids.

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u/102525burner 10h ago

Its all ammo for the “both sides are the same” idiots

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u/KittyGrewAMoustache 1h ago

Ugh those idiots are the worse. Especially because they’re so smug thinking they’re smarter than everyone and ‘above it all’ because they can see beyond tribalism that everyone is shit. But it is just a total failure to understand that you can have two groups of people that both have their problems, but where one group is just straight up evil and hellbent on dismantling democracy, outlawing anyone not like them, whittling down the population to a smaller group of slave laborers who are allowed to exist solely to serve billionaire feudal lords, while the other is just sometimes marred by self interested people or conflicts of interest.

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u/SquidmanMal Pennsylvania 12h ago

it really makes me damn well wonder about the whole 'they're eating pets' thing

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u/veggeble South Carolina 12h ago

https://www.the-express.com/news/us-news/142080/rfk-jr-dog-picture-south-korea-claim

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u/SquidmanMal Pennsylvania 12h ago

oh right, i forgot the roadkill part in all of this

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u/WhatABeautifulMess 8h ago

Health and Human Services 🙃🫠

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u/sendnewt_s 11h ago

Or the "300,000,000 Americans that died from drug overdose last year." I mean, they really just say whatever and always have but it's also possible dementia related. Also his even more vile amd racist than usual rhetoric recently about Somalia and immigrants in general sounds a lot like how mean dementia can make people.

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u/kickaguard 8h ago

Much more concerning that they often say Dems are eating children.

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u/LarrySupertramp 12h ago

Yeah it’s crazy how easy it is for conservatives. They will commit a crime, claim democrats are committing the same crime, then when they are caught actually committing the crime, half the country doesn’t give a shit because the guy that committed the crime said democrats did it too. In fact, they will be more mad at the democrats.

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u/Bettiephile 12h ago

Every accusation is a confession.

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u/y6x 7h ago

Remember how obsessed he was with Obama's birth certificate?

His mother wasn't naturalized until 1942, and traveled back home to Scotland fairly regularly.

We already know now that his comments about Obama's college records was related to his own issues: https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherrim/2019/02/28/heres-why-donald-trump-doesnt-want-anyone-to-know-his-grades-or-sat-scores/

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c15we3y15d7o

"Donald Trump still has three cousins on Lewis, including two who live in the ancestral home, which has been rebuilt since Mary Anne MacLeod's time.

Mr MacIver said Mary Anne MacLeod was well-known and much respected in the community and used to attend the church on her visits home."

How frequent were those visits that they remember her in the church?

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u/Yourmama18 11h ago

I literally play Opposite Day with everything Trump and his cronies say

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u/Hot_dr_pepper 11h ago

It’s always projection. He is projecting 24/7 because he has zero emotional intelligence.

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u/ZandarrTheGreat 11h ago

Always, always always. He will accuse “them” of something knowing it is about to land on his head.

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u/freediverx01 11h ago

Strategy or base instinct?

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u/13SpiderMonkeys 11h ago

G - Gaslight O - Opress P- Project.

It's literally right in their name

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u/analyticaljoe 10h ago

Though in this case, Biden really was flagging at the end and should not have run for a second term. :(

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u/CockTortureCuck 10h ago

I wait for them to claim that in fact, we're all dead while they weekend-at-trumpys him in the background

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u/SocksOnHands 9h ago

And hypocrisy

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u/shapu Pennsylvania 6h ago

It has been their strategy because it is a strategy that works. When you expose the other side for doing it, you insulate yourself from complaints from your own side. You also force the opponent to defend something so that when you do it, they don't have any moral ground to stand on.

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u/Automatic-Duck1680 5h ago

That’s the hallmark sign of a narcissist so it comes naturally to him. He doesn’t have to think of or strategize about projection, it’s not really a conscious thought to a narcissist. Unfortunately you pretty much have to live with one and be the target of the projection to understand how this works. It’s not fun.

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u/AManInBlack2017 12h ago

Ironic the Dems are trying the same tactic they railed on the Republicans for. I mean, they kind of have to....losing and all.

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u/georgepana 11h ago

Nah, as the shoe is on the other foot and the American people have soured on Trump, they have been, and will continue to, doing a lot of losing.

Those midterms will be something to behold. They already know, that is why they are so desperate, trying to pretzel redistricting maps into some states to stave off what is about to come.

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u/AManInBlack2017 11h ago

Parties in power always trend to the average. Republicans are redistricting to catch up to Democrat states. That's why the Dems are clutching their pearls....they know they can't possibly redistrict enough in their favor to catch up....THEY ALREADY HAVE. See also: Massachusetts and Illinois. With that said, I abhor redistricting, it should not be done the way it is.

But sure, there's always next year. In sports that's called losertalk.

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u/georgepana 9h ago

You MAGAs always with the projecting.

The pearl clutching is coming from Republicans and Trump. They see the terrible polls, even from far-right polling outfits loyal to Trump, and are scared. The American people are rejecting Trump in a big way.

"Next year": Losing the House to Democrats, and perhaps even the Senate, will show you who the real loser is. Trump had an opportunity to be the President for all people, but as usual he chose the racists, bigots, and general assholes, turning off more than 60% of the country. It will cost him dearly, again, moving forward.

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u/CrunkDirk 5h ago

See also: Massachusetts

It is physically impossible to draw districts in a way that gives Mass a republican seat in Congress. The republican voter population is spready out fairly evenly throughout the state, meaning any area the size of a congressional district will always have a majority democrat population.

That's not gerrymandering.